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The difference is, Joe Flacco isn't actually winning the games that Baltimore wins. Matt is.

Sorry dude (or dudette) but TEAMS win games. Matt Ryan could not "win" if it was not for our D or Turner, or Norwood, or white, or Jenkins, or Houston, or Grimes, or JA98 and Ja55, and Babs, and....You get the point.

And did you not see Flacco's touch down reception this year?

All said, I hope Ryan gets the ROY.

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Who in the **** was trying to start a debate here? I was just pointing out that since 1970 that rookie QBs starting their first 9 games of their rookie season Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco have lead the Falcons and Ravens both to 6-3 records which is better than any other team with a rookie QB. The previous record was Kyle Boller in 2004.

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Who in the **** was trying to start a debate here? I was just pointing out that since 1970 that rookie QBs starting their first 9 games of their rookie season Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco have lead the Falcons and Ravens both to 6-3 records which is better than any other team with a rookie QB. The previous record was Kyle Boller in 2004.

You're kidding, right? :lol:

That's just what folks do on this board. You could make a post about liking bacon, and you'd end up w/a serious debate!

Oh..... wait. :unsure:

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Sorry dude (or dudette) but TEAMS win games. Matt Ryan could not "win" if it was not for our D or Turner, or Norwood, or white, or Jenkins, or Houston, or Grimes, or JA98 and Ja55, and Babs, and....You get the point.

And did you not see Flacco's touch down reception this year?

All said, I hope Ryan gets the ROY.

Flacco does not have a TD reception. He does have a reception but it wasn't for a TD.

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You could make a post about liking bacon, and you'd end up w/a serious debate!

Bacon is for communists and prostitutes!

And Flacco has been playing some good ball, I am really impressed with him. He had a few hiccups along the way, but he has really been playing well. I think he has had no interceptions the past week or two, while putting up some nice numbers.

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Flacco hasn't won a single game for his team. He just hasn't lost any yet either, he tried, but the Ravens defense is insane. That's who is winning games

NOBODY SINGLE HANDLY WINS GAMES IN THE NFL OR FOOTBALL PERIOD! FOOTBALL IS THE ULTIMATE TEAM SPORT!

We ain't talking about baseball or basketball where 1 single player can win or lose a game.

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Ok, to clear this up.. here are the stats:

Matt Ryan:

2007 STATS

RATING/ YARDS/ TOUCHDOWNS

127.04/ 4,507/ 31

CAREER STATS

YARDS/ TOUCHDOWNS

9,313/ 56

Joe Flacco:

2007 STATS

RATING/ YARDS/ TOUCHDOWNS

144.91/ 4,263/ 23

CAREER STATS

YARDS/ TOUCHDOWNS

7,057/ 41

Clearly, its Matt Ryan> Joe Flacco ....:D

I see where you're TRYING to go here, but there's nothing here about the merits of bacon. Fail.

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