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i can agree on that, i wouldn't say the team is getting worse though.

and once again you prove that you shouldn't talk about the saints, because you don't have the slighest idea what is going on. payton doesn't have control over the defense, that is gary gibbs job.

the falcons are only a slot ahead of the saints in total defense, while not facing the offenses the saints have faced and having a once in a lifetime type game vs oakland, those things add up.

your slow, ball control offense is yalls best defense. now that that is going downhill, expect to see the real falcons d come out.

the falcons are giving up 19 a game, the saints are giving up 24 a game, and we have played nearly all the same offenses as the saints

in fact save the bucs the falcons have given up less points and less yardage to all common opponents as the saints

broncos

bucs

panthers

and Oakland are common opponents

of course we played you as well, so HALF the games that have been played have a direct comparrison

The falcons gave 4 points more to the bucs

but gave up3 points less to the raiders ( which btw wasnt that the game you said the saints showed their true selves???)

gave up 6 less to carolina ( or and we scored more on them too btw)

gave up 14 less to the broncos

gave up 6 less to the chiefs.

not to mention the DRUBBING the falcons defense did to the saints offense where 3/4 of your yards came 3 scores down and we just sat back and let you chew up yardage and clock time.

the "true" falcons defense is the one that has out performed the saints defense in pretty much every way this year.

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i can agree on that, i wouldn't say the team is getting worse though.

and once again you prove that you shouldn't talk about the saints, because you don't have the slighest idea what is going on. payton doesn't have control over the defense, that is gary gibbs job.

the falcons are only a slot ahead of the saints in total defense, while not facing the offenses the saints have faced and having a once in a lifetime type game vs oakland, those things add up.

your slow, ball control offense is yalls best defense. now that that is going downhill, expect to see the real falcons d come out.

You fail to mention the 51 more points you've given up and the fact Payton hired Gibbs...Is Payton going to let nepitism cost him his job? And if its not nepitsim then Payton is just a bad judge of talent, skill level, philosophy, and resume for hiring his coach!

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the falcons are giving up 19 a game, the saints are giving up 24 a game, and we have played nearly all the same offenses as the saints

in fact save the bucs the falcons have given up less points and less yardage to all common opponents as the saints

broncos

bucs

panthers

and Oakland are common opponents

of course we played you as well, so HALF the games that have been played have a direct comparrison

The falcons gave 4 points more to the bucs

but gave up3 points less to the raiders ( which btw wasnt that the game you said the saints showed their true selves???)

gave up 6 less to carolina ( or and we scored more on them too btw)

gave up 14 less to the broncos

gave up 6 less to the chiefs.

not to mention the DRUBBING the falcons defense did to the saints offense where 3/4 of your yards came 3 scores down and we just sat back and let you chew up yardage and clock time.

the "true" falcons defense is the one that has out performed the saints defense in pretty much every way this year.

bucs, panthers, chiefs, oakland, denver. 5 out of 10 games, so know. we've faced 5 offenses that yall haven't, we have not "nearly" played all the same offenses.

each week is a different week, the we gave up less points excuse is weak.

yall are 1 spot better then us, and that took a poerformance that wouldn't happen again vs oakland. face it, the falcons d isn't much better then the saints.

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bucs, panthers, chiefs, oakland, denver. 5 out of 10 games, so know. we've faced 5 offenses that yall haven't, we have not "nearly" played all the same offenses.

each week is a different week, the we gave up less points excuse is weak.

yall are 1 spot better then us, and that took a poerformance that wouldn't happen again vs oakland. face it, the falcons d isn't much better then the saints.

I wold say half your games is "nearly"

YOU WERE THE ONE SAYING WE HAVE NOT FACED THE OFFENSES YOU HAVE

when in reality we have........then I show you not only have we played them...........we have done BETTER then you. I mean htere isa direct comparison of 60% of your games ( counting Atlanta vs Saints) yet you act like the saint defense sucking is due to playing overwhelming offenses and the falcons just play sucky offenses.

not to mention the fact the falcons played the saints and it was the falcons defense not the saints defense that dominated the game.

I know you are a homer , and I can respect that to a degree but you seriously need not check reality.

btw in terms of SCORING defense..the falcons are 6th best in nfc

the saints??? the 12th best.

it would be even better for the falcons if not for the fluke prayer at the end of the saints game.

face it Atlanta is overall a SUPERIOR team the saints, the sooner you realize that, the sooner your top 10 pick will comfort you.

the saints??? 13

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bucs, panthers, chiefs, oakland, denver. 5 out of 10 games, so know. we've faced 5 offenses that yall haven't, we have not "nearly" played all the same offenses.

each week is a different week, the we gave up less points excuse is weak.

yall are 1 spot better then us, and that took a poerformance that wouldn't happen again vs oakland. face it, the falcons d isn't much better then the saints.

You ever heard of bend but don't break defenses? That's what the Falcons are they bend but they tend not to give up the points unlike the Saints do. You don't know shyt about football do you? You can give up yardage as long as you don't give up points...our redzone defense has been pretty good. You guys are giving up nearly a TD more a game than we are! So forget about us being one spot up on you in yardage because we are 11th in total points given up 19.8 to the Saints who are 25th at 24.9

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Scrm Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost

1 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 15 150 615 238.1 3.9 15.9 53 143 37 5 11 46 62 585 29:29 13 4

2 New York Giants 10 17 170 566 265.8 4.7 15.2 43 123 35 5 13 38 77 575 26:52 13 3

3 Baltimore Ravens 10 18 180 560 267.9 4.8 14.7 41 124 33 1 9 11 74 512 26:48 7 2

4 Washington Redskins 10 18.2 182 571 276.4 4.8 16.0 48 129 37 5 7 71 55 458 28:11 10 3

5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 16 160 587 281.5 4.8 14.9 45 137 33 5 12 42 58 449 28:20 10 6

6 Tennessee Titans 10 13.1 131 634 281.8 4.4 16.4 47 142 33 6 16 38 60 453 30:06 13 5

7 Philadelphia Eagles 10 19.3 193 642 292.7 4.6 16.5 49 148 33 4 7 57 58 432 30:55 15 9

8 Carolina Panthers 10 15.5 155 630 293.0 4.7 16.7 45 134 34 4 14 29 60 545 30:30 18 9

9 Dallas Cowboys 10 22.9 229 601 293.6 4.9 17.5 54 134 40 4 9 44 68 476 30:13 14 8

10 Minnesota Vikings 10 23.4 234 589 296.7 5.0 16.0 43 127 34 3 6 50 74 660 28:41 23 9

11 Arizona Cardinals 10 22.8 228 571 299.8 5.3 17.4 49 120 41 7 9 78 56 493 27:19 20 12

12 New England Patriots 10 19.4 194 561 308.4 5.5 16.6 53 122 43 1 4 25 47 364 28:14 7 5

13 Buffalo Bills 10 21.8 218 614 312.0 5.1 18.1 48 131 37 4 9 44 43 305 29:48 12 7

14 Miami Dolphins 10 19.7 197 589 313.9 5.3 17.1 50 137 36 6 10 60 58 418 28:33 16 8

15 New York Jets 10 22.1 221 631 321.0 5.1 19.3 52 133 39 9 13 69 61 423 29:15 20 10

16 Green Bay Packers 10 20.9 209 647 323.7 5.0 18.1 52 138 38 8 13 62 66 516 29:18 11 2

17 Indianapolis Colts 10 22.4 224 635 327.9 5.2 20.0 63 132 48 2 5 40 40 320 32:44 16 6

18 Jacksonville Jaguars 10 21 210 576 328.2 5.7 18.2 50 124 40 3 6 50 53 472 28:14 9 4

19 Chicago Bears 10 23.1 231 676 336.7 5.0 20.3 49 141 35 4 11 36 63 474 31:23 11 8

20 Cincinnati Bengals 10 24.9 249 653 337.7 5.2 19.4 63 140 45 3 7 43 68 468 33:10 13 7

21 San Francisco 49ers 10 27.5 275 660 341.7 5.2 19.8 54 138 39 7 10 70 72 583 31:28 11 3

22 Houston Texans 10 28.7 287 593 343.3 5.8 19.6 56 121 46 7 7 100 51 406 29:08 9 3

23 Atlanta Falcons 10 19.8 198 611 346.0 5.7 18.6 53 130 41 4 9 44 72 587 28:36 10 4

24 New Orleans Saints 10 24.9 249 621 346.2 5.6 19.0 47 126 37 5 8 62 60 489 29:14 8 5

25 Oakland Raiders 10 23.5 235 660 359.2 5.4 20.6 60 141 43 3 4 75 44 368 33:10 15 6

26 Cleveland Browns 10 22.1 221 629 368.3 5.9 20.8 54 125 43 7 11 64 58 455 31:44 9 5

27 San Diego Chargers 10 22.9 229 675 372.2 5.5 22.4 49 128 38 8 14 57 57 469 32:02 12 4

28 Seattle Seahawks 10 25.7 257 669 380.7 5.7 20.1 63 144 44 4 8 50 51 413 34:22 19 7

29 Denver Broncos 10 27.1 271 650 386.6 5.9 20.7 58 135 43 7 11 64 53 490 32:18 11 6

30 St. Louis Rams 10 31.7 317 634 392.1 6.2 22.0 52 122 43 3 5 60 58 435 32:37 14 7

31 Detroit Lions 10 30.8 308 634 402.1 6.3 21.6 50 123 41 3 5 60 59 525 33:10 14 8

32 Kansas City Chiefs 10 27.3 273 640 402.5 6.3 20.5 66 130 51 2 3 67 53 358 31:53 17 11

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You ever heard of bend but don't break defenses? That's what the Falcons are they bend but they tend not to give up the points unlike the Saints do. You don't know shyt about football do you? You can give up yardage as long as you don't give up points...our redzone defense has been pretty good. You guys are giving up nearly a TD more a game than we are! So forget about us being one spot up on you in yardage because we are 11th in total points given up 19.8 to the Saints who are 25th at 24.9

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Scrm Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost

1 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 15 150 615 238.1 3.9 15.9 53 143 37 5 11 46 62 585 29:29 13 4

2 New York Giants 10 17 170 566 265.8 4.7 15.2 43 123 35 5 13 38 77 575 26:52 13 3

3 Baltimore Ravens 10 18 180 560 267.9 4.8 14.7 41 124 33 1 9 11 74 512 26:48 7 2

4 Washington Redskins 10 18.2 182 571 276.4 4.8 16.0 48 129 37 5 7 71 55 458 28:11 10 3

5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 16 160 587 281.5 4.8 14.9 45 137 33 5 12 42 58 449 28:20 10 6

6 Tennessee Titans 10 13.1 131 634 281.8 4.4 16.4 47 142 33 6 16 38 60 453 30:06 13 5

7 Philadelphia Eagles 10 19.3 193 642 292.7 4.6 16.5 49 148 33 4 7 57 58 432 30:55 15 9

8 Carolina Panthers 10 15.5 155 630 293.0 4.7 16.7 45 134 34 4 14 29 60 545 30:30 18 9

9 Dallas Cowboys 10 22.9 229 601 293.6 4.9 17.5 54 134 40 4 9 44 68 476 30:13 14 8

10 Minnesota Vikings 10 23.4 234 589 296.7 5.0 16.0 43 127 34 3 6 50 74 660 28:41 23 9

11 Arizona Cardinals 10 22.8 228 571 299.8 5.3 17.4 49 120 41 7 9 78 56 493 27:19 20 12

12 New England Patriots 10 19.4 194 561 308.4 5.5 16.6 53 122 43 1 4 25 47 364 28:14 7 5

13 Buffalo Bills 10 21.8 218 614 312.0 5.1 18.1 48 131 37 4 9 44 43 305 29:48 12 7

14 Miami Dolphins 10 19.7 197 589 313.9 5.3 17.1 50 137 36 6 10 60 58 418 28:33 16 8

15 New York Jets 10 22.1 221 631 321.0 5.1 19.3 52 133 39 9 13 69 61 423 29:15 20 10

16 Green Bay Packers 10 20.9 209 647 323.7 5.0 18.1 52 138 38 8 13 62 66 516 29:18 11 2

17 Indianapolis Colts 10 22.4 224 635 327.9 5.2 20.0 63 132 48 2 5 40 40 320 32:44 16 6

18 Jacksonville Jaguars 10 21 210 576 328.2 5.7 18.2 50 124 40 3 6 50 53 472 28:14 9 4

19 Chicago Bears 10 23.1 231 676 336.7 5.0 20.3 49 141 35 4 11 36 63 474 31:23 11 8

20 Cincinnati Bengals 10 24.9 249 653 337.7 5.2 19.4 63 140 45 3 7 43 68 468 33:10 13 7

21 San Francisco 49ers 10 27.5 275 660 341.7 5.2 19.8 54 138 39 7 10 70 72 583 31:28 11 3

22 Houston Texans 10 28.7 287 593 343.3 5.8 19.6 56 121 46 7 7 100 51 406 29:08 9 3

23 Atlanta Falcons 10 19.8 198 611 346.0 5.7 18.6 53 130 41 4 9 44 72 587 28:36 10 4

24 New Orleans Saints 10 24.9 249 621 346.2 5.6 19.0 47 126 37 5 8 62 60 489 29:14 8 5

25 Oakland Raiders 10 23.5 235 660 359.2 5.4 20.6 60 141 43 3 4 75 44 368 33:10 15 6

26 Cleveland Browns 10 22.1 221 629 368.3 5.9 20.8 54 125 43 7 11 64 58 455 31:44 9 5

27 San Diego Chargers 10 22.9 229 675 372.2 5.5 22.4 49 128 38 8 14 57 57 469 32:02 12 4

28 Seattle Seahawks 10 25.7 257 669 380.7 5.7 20.1 63 144 44 4 8 50 51 413 34:22 19 7

29 Denver Broncos 10 27.1 271 650 386.6 5.9 20.7 58 135 43 7 11 64 53 490 32:18 11 6

30 St. Louis Rams 10 31.7 317 634 392.1 6.2 22.0 52 122 43 3 5 60 58 435 32:37 14 7

31 Detroit Lions 10 30.8 308 634 402.1 6.3 21.6 50 123 41 3 5 60 59 525 33:10 14 8

32 Kansas City Chiefs 10 27.3 273 640 402.5 6.3 20.5 66 130 51 2 3 67 53 358 31:53 17 11

once again, i'll waste my time because i know you will ignore this. just like michael turner having one game make his season, the defense for yall have one game making the season. if you play that oakland game 10 times, that happen 1 time, maybe twice. you can't say a player, or team, is great just because of one game. because in that case, cleveland is better then the giants.

going into week 8, yall were allowing 22 points a game. since then yall have allowed 20 and 24 points. yall are closer to that 22 points a game set, your pretty much basing your defense off of one game against a terrible offense.

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once again, i'll waste my time because i know you will ignore this. just like michael turner having one game make his season, the defense for yall have one game making the season. if you play that oakland game 10 times, that happen 1 time, maybe twice. you can't say a player, or team, is great just because of one game. because in that case, cleveland is better then the giants.

going into week 8, yall were allowing 22 points a game. since then yall have allowed 20 and 24 points. yall are closer to that 22 points a game set, your pretty much basing your defense off of one game against a terrible offense.

That game is weak. If you're going to take away one of our best games to evaluate our defense, why not take out our worst? :rolleyes: It's only one game, right?

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That game is weak. If you're going to take away one of our best games to evaluate our defense, why not take out our worst? :rolleyes: It's only one game, right?

i wasn't taking that game away, before week 8 and after week 8. that isn't taking a game away, week 1-7 yall were giving up 22 a game. and for week 9 and 10 yall averaged 22 a game.

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i wasn't taking that game away, before week 8 and after week 8. that isn't taking a game away, week 1-7 yall were giving up 22 a game. and for week 9 and 10 yall averaged 22 a game.

We played week 8 so you are taking someone away if you're saying before week 8 and after week 8. The bottom line is our defense is averaging 19.8 points per game and there's no reason to try to debunk that fact. The Saints, Panthers and Falcons have all played Oakland anyway and New Orleans is still ranked in the mid-twenties.

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i wasn't taking that game away, before week 8 and after week 8. that isn't taking a game away, week 1-7 yall were giving up 22 a game. and for week 9 and 10 yall averaged 22 a game.

Why do you insist on adding and taking away? You do realize how foolish you are, right? Let me state it one more time Falcons are 11th at 19.8 points a game the Saints are 25th at 24.9 points a game!

If we took out your Oakland game you would be 28th in the league at 27.5 points a game...two squirrels can play at this game nuts!

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