atripes Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 McAllister, Smith among players reportedly testing positiveESPN.com news servicesUpdated: October 24, 2008, 1:11 PM ETA number of NFL players -- including Deuce McAllister and Will Smith of the New Orleans Saints -- have tested positive under the NFL's steroid policy as a result of taking water pills to lose weight, according to a report from Fox 31-Denver reporter Josina Anderson. Anderson's report cited "a rash of positive tests." The number is more than 10 and may exceed 15, two sources have told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. Attorney David Cornwell told Mortensen he has been retained by "a number of players" to represent them in the NFL appeals process, but Cornwell wouldn't say who those players were or the exact number who have retained his legal services. Smith's listed agent, Joel Segal, was not immediately available to comment, according to Fox 31-Denver. A representative for McAllister's agent, Jim Steiner, said the agent would call that station back. Under the NFL's steroid policy, a player's first positive test results in a four-game suspension. According to Anderson's report, McAllister and Smith are part of a group that tested positive for a diuretic known as Bumetanide. Others tested positive for a different substance. "Most of them tested positive for Bumetanide," said the league source, according to Fox 31-Denver. "The last few tested positive for another substance that works similarly." A source told Fox 31-Denver that Bumetanide "can also mask the use of other drugs or steroids." Bumetanide is a drug belonging to a group of medicines called loop diuretics or "water pills." Its uses include the treatment of fluid retention and swelling caused by medical conditions such as congestive heart failure, liver disease, and kidney disease, Fox 31-Denver reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmtillage Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 ****. When it rains.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus2.0 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 UH OH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joe horn Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I'll never understand the dancing banana.Nothing on the NFL webpage yet, so nothing's official.And in all honesty, this doesn't really screw us any more than any other comination of injuries and suspensions have so far this season, but it certainly doesn't help, either.I'm waiting for an alien to pop out of Drew's chest, then I'll know we're in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott24Falcons Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Charles Grant is supposedly another member of the Saints that tested positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, if any of them are getting suspended, it won't be before we play the Chargers. So we've effectively got 2 weeks to deal with whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathis81WR Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Great start to the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 imagine if 10 players get suspended, is that a record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 imagine if 10 players get suspended, is that a record?Curious to see the other "big names" on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Curious to see the other "big names" on that list.hopefully no one from the skins. If CP is on that list i will die or Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucman™® Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 They take Performance Enhancers and yet that defense still sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 They take Performance Enhancers and yet that defense still sucks!in the thread in around the nfl they said warrick dunn was named on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucman™® Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 in the thread in around the nfl they said warrick dunn was named on the list.Who knows for sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornplaya Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I might be over my head on this one, but I just don't understand the reason for a suspension for using a dieuretic. Unless they're using it to mask steroids or illicit drugs, I honestly don't see the harm in this. Maybe the guys thought they needed to drop a few pounds, which I don't see the harm in. Yeah, it helps us to have playmakers gone off of other teams, but unless they can prove that it was being used as a masking agent, I don't think they should suspend them. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 A banned substance is a banned substance. The new commish hangs his hat on a zero tolerance policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 They take Performance Enhancers and yet that defense still sucks!They were go enough against the Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 in the thread in around the nfl they said warrick dunn was named on the list.From what I here, this isn't no where near over. This is just the first ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucman™® Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 They were go enough against the Bucs. "Go enough", Did you go enough today? Just joshin ya :P ...(5-2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atripes Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 I might be over my head on this one, but I just don't understand the reason for a suspension for using a dieuretic. Unless they're using it to mask steroids or illicit drugs, I honestly don't see the harm in this. Maybe the guys thought they needed to drop a few pounds, which I don't see the harm in. Yeah, it helps us to have playmakers gone off of other teams, but unless they can prove that it was being used as a masking agent, I don't think they should suspend them. JMO.Charles Grant has also been named according to ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I might be over my head on this one, but I just don't understand the reason for a suspension for using a dieuretic. Unless they're using it to mask steroids or illicit drugs, I honestly don't see the harm in this. Maybe the guys thought they needed to drop a few pounds, which I don't see the harm in. Yeah, it helps us to have playmakers gone off of other teams, but unless they can prove that it was being used as a masking agent, I don't think they should suspend them. JMO.Diuretics are banned in the NFL because they can potentially mask substance abuse testing...not because they lose weight on them.Diuretics only help your body to eliminate fluid, not fat, which is used in congestive heart failure cases, and sometimes for hypertension in conjunction with Calcium channel blockers or Beta blockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbyb03 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Doesn't surprise me at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkable Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Saints are just playing for a draft pick at this point so this is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Saints are just playing for a draft pick at this point so this is good news.and maybe a new head coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishbuc Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Saints are just playing for a draft pick at this point so this is good news.You realize you're saying this as they're 3-4? It's not like they're 0-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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