tonegully Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 See you later Dogfighter, we will never forget how you attempted to destroy this franchise. If it wasn't for the cunning, genius known as Arthur Blank to make the hires he has, we probably wouldn't have a franchise.Al Davis is on line one.He didn't try to destroy the franchise!! why do people keep saying that. He did a crime and got caught. dam. let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy3000 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Vick is going to be extremely killer trade bait, I can't wait to see what we get for him.I don't think we can use Canadian draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 He didn't try to destroy the franchise!! why do people keep saying that. He did a crime and got caught. dam. let it go.No, but he took a public pissing on the Falcons, Arthur Blank, the fans and the community. Blank paid him huge money and the fanbase and community absolutely loved the guy, and that was Vicks way of saying thanks guys for the money and the support.Any pick(s) we can get for Vick will be a small compensation for what he did to this franchise.Seceond, let's not forget that when he leaves prison he still has to face Virginia felony charges for gambling activities and the dogfighting ring, which could imprison him for an additional 10 years. Third he has to convince Godell that lying him into his open face was a once i a lifetime act. I cheered for Vick when he was here, but i'm a Falcons fan not a player fan, and i couldn't care less what Vick's future brings him, just like he didn't care about the Falcons future.The biggest problem right now is that we have 11 days without football...thats killing me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11=team Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Dear Author Im sowwy for all the painz i didz to you ...You were my top dog no pun i never meant to hurtz you I reealeyes nowwhat i didz was wrong and im paying my debts to society and every other scumbag that is stealingz my monies..i should have been studying the playbookz instead of studying dog breeding formz..I miss the A T L and the fans. I know you moved on and drafted Ryanz but if you would allow me to come backz i will play my naturallllll pozition tailback. i wont ask to throw just run ...but thats a couple of years from now and Im laying off that fried chicken like you asked from me ..im eating salads and in best shape of my lifez..i hope you know i love u and look up to like a dad...Dear Michael **** you you lying scumbag ..we are 4-2 and we got the next Great QB .and the dome is going to be jam packed when we are on our way to the Super Bowl..Hope you are rotting in jail and getting man handled by a Grady Jackson looking mofo ...Hope all is well1 luv OMG that's funny!! but sad :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 LINKBut Blank said he would support Vick's return elsewhere in the NFL.i hope Goodell has more sense than Blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IonSen88 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Well, I'll say this - this is a volatile subject with our fans - many are still hurt and angry - others are still clinging to hope.Personally, I think he is like any other human being - he pays the price and hopefully learned from his consequences and then deserves a chance to start over - like any other human being on this earth. What he does with that chance is up to him. I hope he chooses well.That being said - if he comes back into the NFL - the Falcons will have the trade rights - I would be willing to bet money that they will do something very similar to what Green Bay did - he won't go to anyone in our division or that we will have to play for a long while. They wouldn't want the media hoopla of a game with him leading an opposing team.He probably hasn't learned a thing. He should've learned it after he gave that women herpes. It's been one apology to the next with Vick. He was indicted for dog fighting then was caught blazing drugs. Thanks to our great owner, Vick can get his 60th chance elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonegully Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 No, but he took a public pissing on the Falcons, Arthur Blank, the fans and the community. Blank paid him huge money and the fanbase and community absolutely loved the guy, and that was Vicks way of saying thanks guys for the money and the support.Any pick(s) we can get for Vick will be a small compensation for what he did to this franchise.Seceond, let's not forget that when he leaves prison he still has to face Virginia felony charges for gambling activities and the dogfighting ring, which could imprison him for an additional 10 years. Third he has to convince Godell that lying him into his open face was a once i a lifetime act. I cheered for Vick when he was here, but i'm a Falcons fan not a player fan, and i couldn't care less what Vick's future brings him, just like he didn't care about the Falcons future.The biggest problem right now is that we have 11 days without football...thats killing me!Oh well he fought dogs. people do it all the time. who the **** cares. He got caught. He is doing his time. Let him do his time and lets get something for him. stop with all this cry baby ****.Second. i thought he was in jail now for gamblingThird. If pacman jones can play...Ray lewis can play...anyone can play. Godell really set the standard with PacMan Jones and Ray Lewis. so all that player conduct is out the window.Fourth. VIck will play again. Because NFL is a business and he will sell tickets. I just wish people on the board will let this go and stop blaming VIck for last season, its water under the bridge. We have a new leader and lets roll with that.Besides i dont think Blank would be saying much if we were losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I would take him back as punt returner/wideout/gimmick plays. Sounds dumb...but I believe in second chances, and we already have a QB on this team. We also need a punt returner like a diabetic needs insulin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 will the giant advertisers that spend hundreds of millions of dollars want him back? what he did was not only illegal and cruel and inhumane...it really disgusted a majority of NFL fans that buy those same products that are advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Oh well he fought dogs. people do it all the time. who the **** cares. He got caught. He is doing his time. Let him do his time and lets get something for him. stop with all this cry baby ****.Second. i thought he was in jail now for gamblingThird. If pacman jones can play...Ray lewis can play...anyone can play. Godell really set the standard with PacMan Jones and Ray Lewis. so all that player conduct is out the window.You know better than this...Vick is still under indictment for his role in the dogfighting ring and the related gambling activity, this trial has been delayed until he is released from federal prison and could give him up to 10 years further in prison.The relation to Pacman is like comparing apples to grapes. Vick is serving 23 months in prison from dogfighting and lying, add to that mix the indictment for gambling, and you have a case that has no comparison to a guy that gets drunk and wants to fight.So the bottomline is, if Vick gets to play again let's get some value for him and let both sides move on. That goes for us fans aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLballer Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 i actually am hoping Vick gets a 2nd chance and i believe he should have i think he has been used as a example of and thats wrong in our society . Everyone knows I wasnt the biggest Vick fan but that had noting to do with his color more along the lines of work ethic and the fans that he brought along that had no respect for this franchise ..You see the fans still linger wishing for Vick to return and acted like Vick never did anything wrong..Again my comments were made in joke .. The fans that make this franchise look bad are the ones holding out hope Vick will return and wishing for Ryan to fail..You still seem there around ..Case is evident on this message board...We have moved on from Vick , i hope the fans he brought along finally come to that point as well and either grasp the concept of being a fan no matter who is playing for the team BLACK OR WHITE in one line you're not supporting a player on the team and then call out other fans for not doing the same......folks this is what you call double standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 folks this is what you call double standardComming from you it ought to make people respect it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLballer Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Comming from you it ought to make people respect it you need to get spell check...mister......coming has one "M"i guess ill get more respect by bashing with incorrect spelling.......DUMB AZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonsfan Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 That would be the smart thing to do,He will have a little more trade value than some hear think.At least I hope soDon't get me wrong...even with a renegotiated contract, I don't think we'll get much for him, but something is better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Blank was fully committed to Ryan from the second he drafted Ryan and that was the very same second Vick´s time in Atlanta ended. The only reason why Blank waited to openly say so was that he needed a good moment where he wouldn´t offend those Falcons fans who still love Vick. When a guy like Stunna admits that Ryan is now the QB of the future, then it´s the right moment to officially say good bye to Vick.Good timing by Arthur Blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000# Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Who would even want Vick? On the field he was never very good and he's a quitter. Off the field he cares more about smoking pot than studying the playbook. America hates him now and the drama it would cause a team to bring him in just isn't worth it. Goodell should ban him for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigg zagg Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm going to tell you something honestly here. In most cases when you go to prison you don't come out in better shape then you went in. Vick was never a guy who got by on doing things the right way when it came to playing QB. He got by because he's probably the greatest athlete to ever play the position.Now make him take a couple of years off (at best) and then expect him to step back onto a football field and play against NFL caliber talent when he hasn't had too for a couple of years and the idea of him being even serviceable can't be rational.Maybe he could come back if he were a running back but if you play QB you just can't take that much time off and still be effective IMO.what prison have you ever been to? ive been locked up several times and always come out better than when i stepped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicksaban Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Michael is going to come out in great shape. His body hasn't been taking hits for 2 years and he's kept up his strength. What people keep forgetting is the NFL is not the only league. There are leagues like the UFL and the Arena Football league that are waiting to throw a barrel of cash at him just to have his name. Mark Cuban is a smart man because he knows having Michael will get people coming to the games and give them a big name. If Michael plays his cards right he can come out in a good spot, he just needs to wait and keep working out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLuvinMyFalcons Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I agree whole heartly with AB. Once Mike get out he would have served his time and it only right for him to be reinstated. I wish Vick all the love and sucess for any team he goes to. He will make an impact anywhere he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Thanks to MV for the memories...now let's move the **** on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 When you select someone in the draft at that level and pay him what we're paying him, you expect him to be successful and you expect him to be a team leader."That's a heck of a hint. Not only to Ryan, but especially for #7 and his fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMVP Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 The only problem with trading Vick is.......(2009); $10.5 million (2010); $13.5 million (2011); $13 million (2012); $15 million (2013); and $17 million (2014)...........finding someone who is willing to pay his salary.Which will be impossibleThere is a chance, however, that Vick will realize this and accept a trade where he has to tear up his deal and sign a different one.I don't think something like tht has ever happened - but this is, after all, a unique situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy3000 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Which will be impossibleThere is a chance, however, that Vick will realize this and accept a trade where he has to tear up his deal and sign a different one.I don't think something like tht has ever happened - but this is, after all, a unique situation.That is the only way a trade would happen, and even then we wouldn't get much of anything in return. What did the Packers get for Farve, a conditional 4th? And that's for a HOFer, one of the best to play the position, who was coming off a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMVP Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 That is the only way a trade would happen, and even then we wouldn't get much of anything in return. What did the Packers get for Farve, a conditional 4th? And that's for a HOFer, one of the best to play the position, who was coming off a great season.It will be probably be around a 6th rounderWith escalators that climb to as high as a 3rd or 4th based on playing time, performance, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarloStanfield Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 1st - We all knew MIke was done in Atlanta. No surprise there, but AB is such the narcissist, 4-2 has him believing Super Bowl and to **** with Mike. That's fine, but how about a little class. If that's your intentions, who cares, but now that he has insisted that Mike will never play in Atlanta again, just cut him. Don't be a punk about it, because you can't win in this situation. No team is going to give you jack for him anyway because you just played your hand and with all your ego, why place Favre like demands on a team in the division. AB is about a buck anyway, so the dome will be SRO if Vick goes to Tampa(very high), Carolina(high), or New Orleans(very low).2nd - There are still 10 games to go.....a lot can happen between now and then - let's see how this all plays out b/c at the wink of an eye - Matty Spice could be taken away on a stretcher, or I'll try one better - face a semi-healthy team? Falcons have been lucky thus far, but i'll like to see what Philly has for him. You gals are still silly. Such hate - you would have thought he fought your dogs!"The artist formerly known as BC" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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