silentbob1272 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I remember when people were hyping Ryan before the draft, they kept saying he had intangibles that were off the chart.....in my ignorance, I pretty well dismissed that and kept chanting for Dorsey. I now get it. Does anyone think based purely and only on talent that Ryan greatly exceeds Harrington? If you saw Joey play in College, you likely would not, the guy could be phenomenal, but he fell on his face in the NFL. You can feel the difference when Ryan is on the field vs when Harrington was. There is confidence, even swagger not just from Ryan but from the entire offense that Joey could never inspire. You see his (Ryan's) conduct on the sidelines, congratulating or demanding more from his line and receivers...you would expect the vets to tell a rookie to go f**k himself, but instead you see them listening......intangibles..... leadership, fire, intelligence, desire. Its not all about the arm (though Ryan's is not nearly as bad as I had heard) I think he could well be great, and that #3 pick is looking more and more like a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 If you look at the top QBs in the game, most of the time, you'll hear people talk about how hard they work outside of practice on film, learning from coaches, extra training, etc. When they said that about our previous 'franchise' qb, it seemed alot more like a propaganda campaign to convince us the guy was actually doing something besides showing up on Sundays. His play indicated otherwise. Guys like Ryan make it obvious that they spend alot of extra time learning and training. Harrington has always been a good example of someone who has all the tools to be a great QB, but lacks the true desire to be the best. I have always thought his true passions aren't on the football field, but in other areas of his life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formul8or Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Agreed, him and Dorsey both have great intangibles. But our offense needed a QB and this is the best one for the immediate future and he is going above expectations already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 If you look at the top QBs in the game, most of the time, you'll hear people talk about how hard they work outside of practice on film, learning from coaches, extra training, etc. When they said that about our previous 'franchise' qb, it seemed alot more like a propaganda campaign to convince us the guy was actually doing something besides showing up on Sundays. His play indicated otherwise. Guys like Ryan make it obvious that they spend alot of extra time learning and training. Harrington has always been a good example of someone who has all the tools to be a great QB, but lacks the true desire to be the best. I have always thought his true passions aren't on the football field, but in other areas of his life...I'm wondering if it was difficult for you to mention Harrington and Ryan in the same sentence.... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'll admit, at first, I was thinking we need to establish our defense with Dorsey then search for another QB. But, after we picked Ryan, I started thinking that maybe this wasn't a bad way to go with the signing of Turner and bringing in Smitty, who was with Del Rio, whom I also have much respect for because he motivates his players and is a great coach. After that, I felt like we really had an opportunity to shock the division and the league. Ryan's intangibles just made it even sweeter. I was proud because we actually have a real coach, a real QB, and a real "team" mindset now. Those are the qualities you look for in a championship team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamill Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 If you look at the top QBs in the game, most of the time, you'll hear people talk about how hard they work outside of practice on film, learning from coaches, extra training, etc. When they said that about our previous 'franchise' qb, it seemed alot more like a propaganda campaign to convince us the guy was actually doing something besides showing up on Sundays. His play indicated otherwise. Guys like Ryan make it obvious that they spend alot of extra time learning and training. Harrington has always been a good example of someone who has all the tools to be a great QB, but lacks the true desire to be the best. I have always thought his true passions aren't on the football field, but in other areas of his life...After the draft when he talked about all he wanted to do was get down to Atlanta and get to work. I was stunned and thought of Peyton Manning. Manning went to work immediately and we see the type of QB he is. The next QB picked (Ryan Leaf) after Manning went Vegas for a week to party. We see how his career ended up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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