smokey7 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 How much longer can these two men be SUPERMEN and literally CARRY THIS DEFENSE? Don't even try to argue with it cause you guys that have paid attention this year know it's true. Picture it like this. The falcons defense is a great big ship out in dangerous waters. There are TWO BOLTS holding that ship together. MILLOY AND ABRAHAM. Our offense is doing a fine job and they don't really concern me because the talent is there. But this defense is one or two injuries away from being SUNK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Servo Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 How much longer can these two men be SUPERMEN and literally CARRY THIS DEFENSE? Don't even try to argue with it cause you guys that have paid attention this year know it's true. Picture it like this. The falcons defense is a great big ship out in dangerous waters. There are TWO BOLTS holding that ship together. MILLOY AND ABRAHAM. Our offense is doing a fine job and they don't really concern me because the talent is there. But this defense is one or two injuries away from being SUNK.Hopefully 11 more games. Actually, hopefully 14-15 more games.I'm pretty sure our offseason will be a focussed effort to aquire the Free Agents and Draftees to shore up our defense. Seeing this, it makes you wonder if McKay was building the team with his head placed firmly in his rectum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Let's not take away from guys like Boley, Houston and Coleman. All 3 have been very good. Boley is getting over a neck injury and helped us seal the victory against Green Bay. Houston shut down his side of the field in Green Bay. And obviously we are much better at free safety. Babs is also playing pretty good, but I agree that Abraham and Milloy have been the MVP's on D, but other guys are doing decent jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzenegger321 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 How much longer can these two men be SUPERMEN and literally CARRY THIS DEFENSE? Don't even try to argue with it cause you guys that have paid attention this year know it's true. Picture it like this. The falcons defense is a great big ship out in dangerous waters. There are TWO BOLTS holding that ship together. MILLOY AND ABRAHAM. Our offense is doing a fine job and they don't really concern me because the talent is there. But this defense is one or two injuries away from being SUNK.Have to disagree. Yes, Abe has been a madman, but I don't think you can call a run specialist SS an integral part of the team. Not to debate because I really appreciate Milloy and what he does for this team, but I would not classify the guy as a top 3 or 5 SS in the league. Also, we have got some other talent on the team in Boley, Lofton and Babs. Jackson is good to, although he only plays half the defensive snaps. There are a couple of other guys that are decent. We are in serious trouble when it comes to pass rushing depth and speed/skill in the secondary and that will be the number one priority in the draft. I predict us picking up two guys through FA and developing one or two guys through the draft. In two years our team is going to be crazy good.I do see your point though. If Abe went down there is a chance we could not win another game. Milloy is a positive for our team, but I think we would still be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Jones Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I have always gone buy the theory that if your safety leads your team in tackles you probably have a problem on defense. Lofton is doing pretty good for a rookie but it seems that even with guys like grady taken on blockers the Linebackers as a unit have not been as successful at stopping guys at the line of scrimmage or preventing medium to short yardage 3rd downs. Safeties making tackles is probably a little acceptable seeing that we seem to have a more bend don't break defense than a attacking one. I thought blitzing from the outside would be a strength with Brook an Boley but with the trouble we have had in pass defense that is not possible. I guess once our corners get more experience as the season goes on we will be able to open up the defense a little more to make some plays with blitzes and more disguised coverages.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hopefully the rest of the season. Then we'll worry about next year when next year comes. Let's just enjoy what we got right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I have always gone buy the theory that if your safety leads your team in tackles you probably have a problem on defense. Lofton is doing pretty good for a rookie but it seems that even with guys like grady taken on blockers the Linebackers as a unit have not been as successful at stopping guys at the line of scrimmage or preventing medium to short yardage 3rd downs. Safeties making tackles is probably a little acceptable seeing that we seem to have a more bend don't break defense than a attacking one. I thought blitzing from the outside would be a strength with Brook an Boley but with the trouble we have had in pass defense that is not possible. I guess once our corners get more experience as the season goes on we will be able to open up the defense a little more to make some plays with blitzes and more disguised coverages..your safeties are often 2nd in tackles to your ILBs. Milloy is charging the line and making tackles in front of LBs in some cases. I give it as a credit to him more than a knock on our defense as a who.Smiths defenses dont blitz much. Most cover 2 schemes rely heavy on pressure from the front 4. Lets just all pray daily that Abraham doesnt get hurt, because if we are relyiong on Davis and Anderson as starting DEs, our CBs are in BIG trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindgame Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Milloy will retire at the end of the year unless a team like the cowboys want him and Abe will play for a few more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedsquirl Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Abraham, Lawyer, Boley, USS Babineaux, and Grady have all been outstanding.Houston has been pretty good since they threatened to bench him.I don't hate on Grimes too bad. Granted, I can't wait for the day that he is our Nickleback. But he hasn't been horrible.Mushy beat him silly, but that is what Mushy does. If a safety or a LB doesn't break him in half early in the game, he does that to corners.And Driver's catches were insane. Coverage wasn't bad. That man was just in the zone. If we had a better/consistent pass rush, Grimes wouldn't be having such a tough time of it. Throws would be a little more rushed and he would get to use some of those ups to go after poorly thrown balls.Right now, he is defending against crisp, measured throws. And that is **** for any CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael nagra Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Lofton is showing very well from MLB, KEITH BROOKING is still a monster at WLB, and Michael Boley is one of the best SLB's in the NFL, and our corners have played very well at the onset of this season, and coleman is very solid, along with big grady inside, we have 9 very good parts, and only 11 spots, we aren't great, but they're a very good defense in a systym built to utilize it's playmakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Jones Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 your safeties are often 2nd in tackles to your ILBs. Milloy is charging the line and making tackles in front of LBs in some cases. I give it as a credit to him more than a knock on our defense as a who.Smiths defenses dont blitz much. Most cover 2 schemes rely heavy on pressure from the front 4. Lets just all pray daily that Abraham doesnt get hurt, because if we are relyiong on Davis and Anderson as starting DEs, our CBs are in BIG trouble.Yeah the Bob Sanders and John Lynch rule of the cover two but I still think the LB should be eating up the space on underneath routes especially on mid range third downs and be in better positions to make plays than Milloy. What Ike Hilliard did to us in week two was disgusting. We are going to have to get more pressure and unless Anderson has an epiphany we are going to have to start blitzing to help the corners out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Yeah the Bob Sanders and John Lynch rule of the cover two but I still think the LB should be eating up the space on underneath routes especially on mid range third downs and be in better positions to make plays than Milloy. What Ike Hilliard did to us in week two was disgusting. We are going to have to get more pressure and unless Anderson has an epiphany we are going to have to start blitzing to help the corners out.I agree. I would love to see a permanent Nicholas/Boley duo in nickle sets. It gives us 2 backers that can drop in coverage and blitz VERY well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Our defense isn't just relying on Abraham and Milloy...it's a collective effort that our defense puts out there every game. Abraham wouldn't be able to get to the QB unless our corners defend the receivers well, or Milloy can't make those hard hits unless the LBs do a good job of blocking the lanes. Our defense will get better as the season goes on...I can't wait to see what we're gonna do in FA and the draft next year. I think this draft and FA will be the defining moment for our team because I know Dimitroff and Smith are already scouting players to see how they'll fit in our system. I actually have no worries about the Falcons anymore! I actually trust they'll make the right decisions...hooray for the future Superbowl Champion Falcons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The Linebackers except for Lofton sometimes are running them selves out of the play. I don't know what type of run fit scheme we run, but it is not like I see other team linebackers. I see other team's linebacker fill the hole were the running back could be going. They act like RB backs on the Defense reading the play and filling the hole that open and attacking the ball carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formul8or Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Milloy has saved a lot, a LOT of TD's this season. It's scary really. If either of these guys get injured we are in big trouble. Abe needs a real DE on the other side to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmsman Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 How do you post up asking about Abe and Milloy yet fail to mention Brooking who is older than both?That is a serious overlook to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey7 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 How do you post up asking about Abe and Milloy yet fail to mention Brooking who is older than both?That is a serious overlook to this post.Have you watched any games this year? Brooking is weak. VERY weak. And slow. He's went from above average in 2003 and 2004, to average in 2005 and 2006, and now he's a very weakspot on this defense. Yes he's made a lot of tackles. Here's the problem, he SHOULD have made those same tackles about 5 YARDS up the field from where he did. Watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmsman Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Have you watched any games this year? Brooking is weak. VERY weak. And slow. He's went from above average in 2003 and 2004, to average in 2005 and 2006, and now he's a very weakspot on this defense. Yes he's made a lot of tackles. Here's the problem, he SHOULD have made those same tackles about 5 YARDS up the field from where he did. Watch.Exactly. So you asked how much longer for Milloy and Abe but didnt mention how much longer for Brook. I just thought he should be included in your analysis of the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 This is why Biermann and Decoud were drafted. Hopefully Coleman willbe able to take that leadership role and be our next Milloy. It seems that Milloy has actually been playing more of the FS position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keas McFalcon Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 This is why Biermann and Decoud were drafted. Hopefully Coleman willbe able to take that leadership role and be our next Milloy. It seems that Milloy has actually been playing more of the FS position.decoud will be good for depth purposes but i don't think he is the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miKevicK777 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 milloy is being referred to as a superman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 How much longer can these two men be SUPERMEN and literally CARRY THIS DEFENSE? Don't even try to argue with it cause you guys that have paid attention this year know it's true. Picture it like this. The falcons defense is a great big ship out in dangerous waters. There are TWO BOLTS holding that ship together. MILLOY AND ABRAHAM. Our offense is doing a fine job and they don't really concern me because the talent is there. But this defense is one or two injuries away from being SUNK.I'd say until they can do it anymore and besides our defense has 5 INTs and many, many tackles. Don't get so tight about it. That's just how it is right now. These two are the All-Stars of the Defense. Babs has made good plays. Lofton has made good plays. Grady has made good plays. Boley has made plays. Houston has made a play or two as well as Grimes....so chill out a lil. Enjoy what's happening right now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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