Bring It Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Last week I said for us to win in Tampa we had to :1) Protect Ryan2) Crush GrieseOf course there were the obvious sarcastic comments stating that that's true in ANY game, any week.We did neither .................very well.Result ?? Loss.In observing the NFL over many years I've become convinced of a couple of things :--- Most teams have very good quality athletes. Very close to each other in ability.--- Coaching staffs vary all over the place in philosophy.............and SKILL. Some complicate the game so badly, Brady. Montana, or Marino couldn't figure out what the h.ell is going on.--- As I see it, the key to winning is...............PASS RUSH. You give ANY half way decent NFL QB time to find an open receiver, he will indeed find one...........and connect. Especially with 7 or 8 seconds, as Romo or Brady usually have. Conversely, if you consistantly find ways to harrass and / or sack the QB..............CONSISTANTLY.................game over. Example : last Super Bowl, and hundreds of other games won over the years thruout the league.Again, I realize this is no "cosmic revelation", but I see so much sophisticated game planning and scheming, when in the end, a torrid pass rush wipes out all the offensive game plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanjason Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Agreed, our pass rush was fierce in 98 and in 04 and we won games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Agreed, our pass rush was fierce in 98 and in 04 and we won games.Yep...but when you have a wasted #8th pick at DE, your not going to get much of a rush. DE may be our top priority next off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 04 we lead the league in sacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Dub Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 No question JA98's improvement is decisive for how the Falcons will move forward the next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yep...but when you have a wasted #8th pick at DE, your not going to get much of a rush. DE may be our top priority next off season.AMEN !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 AMEN !!!Thats still a waste. Now you may have to develop another potential bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanjason Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yep...but when you have a wasted #8th pick at DE, your not going to get much of a rush. DE may be our top priority next off season.It's not just Jamaal. We lost Kerney to free agency and released the oft-injured Coleman (who was actually good for a couple of years). I wasn't sure that filing the void with journeymen was the answer. That being said I don't think think our defense has played that poorly but you need someone besides Abe getting sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It's not just Jamaal. We lost Kerney to free agency and released the oft-injured Coleman (who was actually good for a couple of years). I wasn't sure that filing the void with journeymen was the answer. That being said I don't think think our defense has played that poorly but you need someone besides Abe getting sacks.Coleman didn't cut it last year. Didn't Babs just register a sack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanjason Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Coleman didn't cut it last year. Didn't Babs just register a sack?Yes Babs has one sack. Abe has four. The rest of the defense has a big fat ZERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formul8or Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 But...but.....Jamaal is great against the run!So who was great against the run in '04? Kerney or Brady Smith?It didn't matter you know why? They were both getting sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savfalcon26 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 One of the problems the Falcons face is the fact they HAVE to get a pass rush with only four players. The DBs are too young to be able to handle the extra pressure of covering everyone. If they could send Nicholas or Brooking on blitzes it would help out John and the rest of the DL.Lets face it Brooking isn't a 3rd down LB as far as covering RBs and TEs anymore.The Falcons need to incorporate him into the blitz package for pressure.As long as they only send 4 then the Falcons will continue to have issues getting the needed pressure on QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer1 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 One of the problems the Falcons face is the fact they HAVE to get a pass rush with only four players. The DBs are too young to be able to handle the extra pressure of covering everyone. If they could send Nicholas or Brooking on blitzes it would help out John and the rest of the DL.Lets face it Brooking isn't a 3rd down LB as far as covering RBs and TEs anymore.The Falcons need to incorporate him into the blitz package for pressure.As long as they only send 4 then the Falcons will continue to have issues getting the needed pressure on QBs.Good observation. If you send a fifth, from several different areas, this disrupts the pass blocking scheme. This improves the chances of Abe or JA98 to apply pressure and maybe Jamal will get a sack. This may be a case of when you break the seal things will keep flowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 AMEN !!!NO PASS RUSH? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, MOST TEAMS ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR WAY WITH YOU.THEY'LL MAKE YOUR SECONDARY LOOK REAL BAD. I DON'T CARE HOW GOOD THEY ARE. IF YOU'VEONLY GOT ONE STAND-OUT RUSHER LIKE WE HAVE, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS DOUBLE AND TRIPLETEAM HIM. NO PASS RUSH IN THE NFL MEANS YOU BETTER BE IN A BOMB SHELTER, BECAUSE YOU'LLBE BOMBED MORE THAN THE CITY OF LONDON IN WORLD WAR TWO. SO FAR, THESE FIRST TWO TEAMSHAVE ONLY SENT RECONNAISSANCE RUNS ON US. AFTER THIS NEXT GAME EXPECT TO SEE THE REALBOMB RUNS ON US. THE KIND WHERE THEY DON'T HOLD BACK NOTHING. THEY'LL SEND THEIR FULLARSENALS AT US. NO PASS RUSH? ......... WITHOUT ONE YOU LOOSE THE WAR !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 One of the problems the Falcons face is the fact they HAVE to get a pass rush with only four players. The DBs are too young to be able to handle the extra pressure of covering everyone. If they could send Nicholas or Brooking on blitzes it would help out John and the rest of the DL.Lets face it Brooking isn't a 3rd down LB as far as covering RBs and TEs anymore.The Falcons need to incorporate him into the blitz package for pressure.As long as they only send 4 then the Falcons will continue to have issues getting the needed pressure on QBs.Good observation. If you send a fifth, from several different areas, this disrupts the pass blocking scheme. This improves the chances of Abe or JA98 to apply pressure and maybe Jamal will get a sack. This may be a case of when you break the seal things will keep flowing.Maybe we'll see more creative pass rush schemes starting this week.We need it BAD !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Play Biermann more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 Play Biermann more often.I think we'll see more of him. A natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanjason Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Another bad sign, our safeties lead the team in tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindgame Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I think we should get a good pass rusher in Free agency next year, every year theres atleast one solid defensive lineman. JA98 just isn't to the level he should be at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 No question JA98's improvement is decisive for how the Falcons will move forward the next offseason.Not gonna happen. He is just not a natural pass rusher. TD will get us one but McKay screwed us this year. Fire McKay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananaboat joe Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Last week I said for us to win in Tampa we had to :1) Protect Ryan2) Crush GrieseOf course there were the obvious sarcastic comments stating that that's true in ANY game, any week.We did neither .................very well.Result ?? Loss.In observing the NFL over many years I've become convinced of a couple of things :--- Most teams have very good quality athletes. Very close to each other in ability.--- Coaching staffs vary all over the place in philosophy.............and SKILL. Some complicate the game so badly, Brady. Montana, or Marino couldn't figure out what the h.ell is going on.--- As I see it, the key to winning is...............PASS RUSH. You give ANY half way decent NFL QB time to find an open receiver, he will indeed find one...........and connect. Especially with 7 or 8 seconds, as Romo or Brady usually have. Conversely, if you consistantly find ways to harrass and / or sack the QB..............CONSISTANTLY.................game over. Example : last Super Bowl, and hundreds of other games won over the years thruout the league.Again, I realize this is no "cosmic revelation", but I see so much sophisticated game planning and scheming, when in the end, a torrid pass rush wipes out all the offensive game plans.I disagree, while we didnt get much pressure on griese, i feel the protection of Ryan was more than adaquate. I even counted silently one play and he had almost six seconds in the pocket. He just couldnt find an open reciever and was pulling a joey harrington deer in headlights look for most of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Fire McKay.I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 3 LONG YEARS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 To win in the NFLIt was proven years ago that to win in the NFL you have to:1. Run the ball - we did in week 1 and didn't in week 22. Stop the run - we did in week 1 and didn't in week 23. Win the turnover battle - we did in week 1 and didn't in week 24. Have more big plays than you allow (20+ yarders) - we did in week 1 and didn't in week 25. Play good special teams - we were OK both weeksThis blueprint never really changes. If you go check the stats from all the games this past week you'll probably find that the teams that did most of these things won 90% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackandred Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 5. Play good special teams - we were OK both weeksI think the Special Teams were horrible in Week 2. We never had good field Position and Koenen punts were really crap. And don't forget the many Penalties we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdwfalcons Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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