Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I researched the stats of all DE's drafted in the first round since 2000. Jamaal Anderson finished the season with zero sacks, which makes him the only one of them without a sack in their rookie season. Keep in mind, most of these guys were drafted later in the first round, and the majority of them were not even starters their first year. They also didn't have the luxury of playing opposite John Abraham. Way to go McKay.Gaines Adams- 5 sacks / 31 tacklesJamaal Anderson- 0 sacks 30 tacklesJarvis Moss- 1 sack / 9 tacklesMario Williams- 5 sacks / 47 tackles Tamba Hali- 8 sacks / 63 tackles / 1 IntMathias Kiwanuka- 4 sacks / 53 tackles / 2 Int'sMarcus Spears- 2 sacks / 31 tacklesLuis Castillo- 4 sacks / 49 tacklesWill Smith- 8 sacks / 42 tacklesKenechi Udeze- 5 sacks / 36 tacklesKevin Williams- 11 sacks / 52 tackles /1 IntTy Warren- 2 sacks / 33 tacklesMichael Haynes- 2 sacks / 22 tackles Tyler Brayton- 3 sacks / 61 tacklesJulius Peppers- 12 sacks / 36 tackles / 1 IntDwight Freeney- 13 sacks / 46 tacklesBryan Thomas- 1 sack / 19 tacklesCharles Grant- 7 sacks / 31 tacklesJustin Smith- 9 sacks / 54 tackles / 2 Int'sAndre Carter- 7 sacks / 47 tacklesJamal Reynolds- 2 sacks / 14 tacklesCourtney Brown- 5 sacks / 70 tacklesShaun Ellis- 9 sacks / 53 tackles / 1 IntErik Flowers- 2 sacks / 20 tackles / 1 IntEdit- I forgot Erasmus James- 4 sack/27 tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tek34 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Don't label him bust until his 3rd season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austrian_Falcon Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Don't label him bust until his 3rd season is over.Agree, it's too early to call him a bust right now ... he played for a bad team with a even worse coach. Also remember how many people called Mario Williams a bust before last season started, and he finished with 14 sacks. I didn't like drafting JA, because I thought he's more of a project than a player, who's ready to play in the NFL ... so give him 2 more seasons and wait what happens till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb4242 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Just curious, how many of those guys played for Bobby Pigtrna and his stable of unqualified coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Agree, it's too early to call him a bust right now ... he played for a bad team with a even worse coach. Also remember how many people called Mario Williams a bust before last season started, and he finished with 14 sacks. I didn't like drafting JA, because I thought he's more of a project than a player, who's ready to play in the NFL ... so give him 2 more seasons and wait what happens till then.At least Mario Williams had 5 sacks his rookie season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyflip Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 And how many sacks did Patrick Kerney have his rookie season, is he a bust?Woops thought he had 0, my mistake. but still he aint a bust u muppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINIK4L Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Jamaal is a bust and DJ is the best QB ever!!! Gotta love TATF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyDawg Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 All you've proved is that you know how to read.Patrick Kerney was no show-stopper his first couple of seasons (5 sacks total in 1999-2000), but is a perennial All-Pro now.Last year's Falcon defense was almost a joke, and made worse by how pitiful the offense was. With no real scheme in place, or push up the middle from competent D-Linemen, to allow Anderson (or Abraham) to attack the corners of the opponent's offensive line, Atlanta's defense was strictly 'Read-and-React'. Bad as the situation was, I had hoped the team would pick Glenn Dorsey this year to address those shortcomings, but the Ryan pick looks solid now, and better for the team's future, IF he can stay healthy.Anderson has the talent to develop, and I have little doubt that more help is on the way on the defensive line next year, regardless of the record. Linebackers and secondary are already upgraded significantly, and the offense should at least put some points on the board this year. Like a lot of fair-weather fans, you think you see a solution with numbers. Look a little deeper and you'll see defensive minds on the coaching staff that have some kind of clue as to what they're doing, and that knowledge will translate to better results on the field this season, regardless of what you might think the numbers prove to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 All you've proved is that you know how to read.And you proved that you can't. I said "since 2000". Kerney was drafted in 1999.Either way, Kerney showed potential his first season, with 2.5 sack in limited playing time.I am Lord Dark Helmet. Only the newbies dare battle me. The rest know better.Don't make me go DARTH TROLL on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 You forgot Erasmus James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 You forgot Erasmus James. #### it.Screwed up my cut and paste from MS word. I have him on there I swear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Basically what I read was McKay was a bust!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockford Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Oh my! Lord Dark Helmet is a bust! Can't even make his post right without messing it up! Its PROOF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockford Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I love arguments that require making artificial time cut off points to avoid certain players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Oh my! Lord Dark Helmet is a bust! Can't even make his post right without messing it up! Its PROOF!Sad but true :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 And you proved that you can't. I said "since 2000". Kerney was drafted in 1999.Either way, Kerney showed potential his first season, with 2.5 sack in limited playing time.I am Lord Dark Helmet. Only the newbies dare battle me. The rest know better.Don't make me go DARTH TROLL on you.I welcome you to go Darth Troll because on your best trolling day you aren't half the troll good ole Tona use to be. So im not sweating you or any other troll on this board Not like i waste my time arguing with yall anyways but i guess it could give you something to do with the newbies for a little while. Besides you know their are 2 sides to every schwartz and your schwartz is weak you got the down side i got the upside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokies&Falcons Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yet another alter ego...Swift/helmet/tona/weiserrr/uup/dzor etc etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yet another alter ego...Swift/helmet/tona/weiserrr/uup/dzor etc etc etc...Everyone knows I used to be Darth Troll.I am not any of those people you listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 I welcome you to go Darth Troll because on your best trolling day you aren't half the troll good ole Tona use to be. So im not sweating you or any other troll on this board Not like i waste my time arguing with yall anyways but i guess it could give you something to do with the newbies for a little while. Besides you know their are 2 sides to every schwartz and your schwartz is weak you got the down side i got the upside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yet another alter ego...Swift/helmet/tona/weiserrr/uup/dzor etc etc etc...o no DT is def. not any of those guys. Thats for sure. Swift and tona are different for sure to. Ive had both of them sign up on my falcons world website and make accounts they are both on different ip addresses and such. Funny thing is Tonabull did use to be MarcusV that was his alter ego where he use to be funny as heck and make some crazy shot out threads everyone loved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st4ngeI2 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I researched the stats of all DE's drafted in the first round since 2000. Jamaal Anderson finished the season with zero sacks, which makes him the only one of them without a sack in their rookie season. Keep in mind, most of these guys were drafted later in the first round, and the majority of them were not even starters their first year. They also didn't have the luxury of playing opposite John Abraham. Way to go McKay.Gaines Adams- 5 sacks / 31 tacklesJamaal Anderson- 0 sacks 30 tacklesJarvis Moss- 1 sack / 9 tacklesMario Williams- 5 sacks / 47 tackles Tamba Hali- 8 sacks / 63 tackles / 1 IntMathias Kiwanuka- 4 sacks / 53 tackles / 2 Int'sMarcus Spears- 2 sacks / 31 tacklesLuis Castillo- 4 sacks / 49 tacklesWill Smith- 8 sacks / 42 tacklesKenechi Udeze- 5 sacks / 36 tacklesKevin Williams- 11 sacks / 52 tackles /1 IntTy Warren- 2 sacks / 33 tacklesMichael Haynes- 2 sacks / 22 tackles Tyler Brayton- 3 sacks / 61 tacklesJulius Peppers- 12 sacks / 36 tackles / 1 IntDwight Freeney- 13 sacks / 46 tacklesBryan Thomas- 1 sack / 19 tacklesCharles Grant- 7 sacks / 31 tacklesJustin Smith- 9 sacks / 54 tackles / 2 Int'sAndre Carter- 7 sacks / 47 tacklesJamal Reynolds- 2 sacks / 14 tacklesCourtney Brown- 5 sacks / 70 tacklesShaun Ellis- 9 sacks / 53 tackles / 1 IntErik Flowers- 2 sacks / 20 tackles / 1 IntEdit- I forgot Erasmus James- 4 sack/27 tacklesDUDE - give him 3 seasons...3 minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Always here to brighten ya day up bro You know all my posts are meant for fun as i never take anything on this board serious :P Although i have got 1 person banned before for being a woman hater and always putting them down which i thought was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Always here to brighten ya day up bro You know all my posts are meant for fun as i never take anything on this board serious :P Although i have got 1 person banned before for being a woman hater and always putting them down which i thought was wrong.You're ok in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 You're ok in my book.Burn that book and tell no one of this. I got a reputation to think of here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dark Helmet Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 Burn that book and tell no one of this. I got a reputation to think of here :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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