Statz. Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownorg Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I tend to agree with that, however Ryan seems far more mature and NFL ready than the majority of rookie QB'sIf TD & coach Smith belive he can handle it, i'm inclined to belive them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durrdbyrd Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.A) We're drafted him to be the savior. We're paying him to be the savior. Why do you know Joey Harrington's whole name?C) Why shouldn't we try to win now? If Coach Smith and TD think that this is going to give us the best chance to be competitive, then we should go out and do everything we can to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Let's see....should I trust:Dimitroff and his vast football knowledge along with a coaching staff who has over 150 years of coaching experience who see Ryan day in and day out at practice and during games and then break down every aspect of those games through film work...........orjust another mook on the message board whose opinion isn't any more valid than mine or anyone else who signs up to post on here?I'll take Dimitroff and the coaches for $500 Alex.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaud Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Joey Harrington just didn't have what it takes to be a good quarterback. This whole "starting him from the start will ruin him' is overrated.If that ruins you then it is clear you were never going to be a good NFL quarterback. He's starting and it's the Front Office job to now protect him with a good o-line and continue giving him some play makers like they have at the RB and WR position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanlee Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.Yep it sure killed Peyton Manning's career. And heck Pittsburgh should have not played Ben his rookie year at all, we know how much of a disaster that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 What the world are you talking about 'we're not trying to win now'? Of course we're trying to win now. We're trying to win always, as is every single team in the NFL every single year. This may be the worst comment about sports ever. If the coaches and the organization think that Matt Ryan gives us the best chance to win, the **** yes I want him on the field. You don't accept losing in this league just because you're a young, re-building franchise. Please don't ever suggest that we're not trying to win again, that's incredibly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Joey Harrington just didn't have what it takes to be a good quarterback. This whole "starting him from the start will ruin him' is overrated.If that ruins you then it is clear you were never going to be a good NFL quarterback. He's starting and it's the Front Office job to now protect him with a good o-line and continue giving him some play makers like they have at the RB and WR position.couldnt have said it any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.blah blah.. cry wolf to people that care. hes going to be ok, dont worry your little head over it.You know you sound like your holed up in a basement somewhere with no windows. You make it sound like QBs are such pansies. Carr and Harrington were sissys, but that doesnt mean all high draft picks that play will be. You know, some people can handle the heat and turn out ok. Those that dont never had the toughness in the first place.You should be the spokesman for trojan as much as you wanna protect Matt Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerDawg6481 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 *IDIOT ALERT* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird587 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Let's see....should I trust:Dimitroff and his vast football knowledge along with a coaching staff who has over 150 years of coaching experience who see Ryan day in and day out at practice and during games and then break down every aspect of those games through film work...........orjust another mook on the message board whose opinion isn't any more valid than mine or anyone else who signs up to post on here?I'll take Dimitroff and the coaches for $500 Alex.......... yea.....what he(gritz)said :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.Desperation is a stinky cologne, and you certainly reak of it. Just let the coach and Ryan do his job.....mmmmkay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.Joey did not know how to shake off a bad play. He would panic or just simply fold under pressure and when things went bad he fell apart.Smith and Mularkey and all of the kings horses and men have watched over 3,000 plays on Ryan according to the AJC. They like the fact that he is a leader and has good a good relation with team mates (see Ryan Leaf who did not). He recovers from his mistakes. Makes smart plays. I couldn't tell you the last time a QB camp into camp that early. The Oline is doing a good job in pass protection. Turner and Norwood is doing a good job in the run game taking the pressure off of Ryan to have to throw especially on 3rd and short. He is spreading the ball around a good bit which is somewhat of an indication of how well he has studied the playbook. We finally have at least 2 if not 3 good receivers on the team.I could go on but hopefully you get the idea. It is not due to one of these things but all of them that he is starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTCrunkler Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Yep it sure killed Peyton Manning's career. And heck Pittsburgh should have not played Ben his rookie year at all, we know how much of a disaster that was.i dont think you can compare ryans situation to big ben bc he went to an awesome team. i would think manning would be more appropriate. i guess that the colts werent a good team when they got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm1 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Starting a rookie QB that shows he isn't ready would be a desperate attempt. Ryan has shown that he already has a decent grasp on this offense, and it shows on the field. Especially if the guy already knows that there are going to be some bumps in the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Yep it sure killed Peyton Manning's career. And heck Pittsburgh should have not played Ben his rookie year at all, we know how much of a disaster that was.Exactly. Either you have it or you dont. Peyton, Troy Aikman, Dan Marino, and Ben have/had it. Joey and David Carr dont. Ryan is yet to be determined. But it appears he has it. The OL was the biggest question mark, I think TD and Smith had. More so, than if Ryan is ready. The OL has played very well and Ryan gets rid of the ball fast. Mike is calling plays, to limit him getting destoyed. As Ryan get more comfortable and if the OL can continue to impress and we get Turner/Norwood going, look for Mike to open the offense up even more for Ryan. It is ignorant to think he will automatically follow the steps of Joey and David. Enough already. Lets just support him and see what happens 3-4 years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The easiest way to damage a young QB is to put him a situation where failure is eminent. Ryan has the potential to be great, but he is getting painted as the savior of our team in his first year. Ask John Joseph Harrington what happens when a young QB is seen as the savior of a struggling franchise. It would be best for Ryan to sit the first half of the season and watch. We are not trying to win now, we are trying to build a future.Ask Peyton Manning what happens !!! The Colts went 3-13 his first year.........................because their Defense was No. 31 in the league that year. The very NEXT year they went 13-3.....................THAT'S what happened.Quit comparing every QB to another...............every situation to another. Useless !!!Every QB................every TEAM..................each YEAR.................is unique.................different............in a thousand ways !!!!It's useless to compare or predict a teams record BEFORE a season starts.Do you think any SANE person predicted last August that the Giants would win the Superbowl ?????Every year, all the EXPERTS say DALLAS is everything.............will beat everybody...............a sure bet, etc. , etc. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PLAYOFFS SINCE FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!Enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Ask Peyton Manning what happens !!! The Colts went 3-13 his first year.........................because their Defense was No. 31 in the league that year. The very NEXT year they went 13-3.....................THAT'S what happened.Quit comparing every QB to another...............every situation to another. Useless !!!Every QB................every TEAM..................each YEAR.................is unique.................different............in a thousand ways !!!!It's useless to compare or predict a teams record BEFORE a season starts.Do you think any SANE person predicted last August that the Giants would win the Superbowl ?????Every year, all the EXPERTS say DALLAS is everything.............will beat everybody...............a sure bet, etc. , etc. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PLAYOFFS SINCE FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!Enough.Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornplaya Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 What is so hard to understand about the fact that NFL caliber coaches have evaluated every QB on our roster along with the way our offensive line has performed and determined him to be the best QB to start the season? Do you not get the fact that he has outperformed every QB on the depth chart? Have you watched any of the pre-season or been to any of the workouts/practices? I'd love to hear, other than being a Vick hugger and not wanting us to move on (as is the case with the majority of people trying to demean Ryan), what your basis is for not wanting the QB that has performed the best start the season under center? Experience doesn't come from holding a clip board. He needs to get in there in a real game and get the game speed under his belt, make his reads, and learn on the fly. That is where he will learn the game the most, and where he will develop chemistry. How can an armchair QB be a better evaluator of talent than our front office and coaching staff? What is so hard to understand about the concept that the more reps he gets, the better off we are in the long run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaud Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Every year, all the EXPERTS say DALLAS is everything.............will beat everybody...............a sure bet, etc. , etc. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PLAYOFFS SINCE FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!Enough.Wtf,They have made the playoffs the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Wtf,They have made the playoffs the last 2 years.Yeah..............in the NBA !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 yep Peyton Manning went 3-13 and threw 28 picks... He sure is damaged goods now... Idiot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaud Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Yeah..............in the NBA !!!!!I don't know what Football league you have been watching but Dallas was in the playoffs last year and the year before.Remember Tony Romo fumbled the snap on the kick that would of gotten them to the next round two years ago?Oh well if you think Dallas haven't made the playoffs in a long time then you must stop watching football when playoff time comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 They haven't won a game in the play-offs in a LONG time, I am pretty sure that is what he meant to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 They haven't won a game in the play-offs in a LONG time, I am pretty sure that is what he meant to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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