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It's no secret that director Kevin Smith has been having a rough time in getting an R-rating for his new comedy Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Last month star Seth Rogen went on the record and said the MPAA was giving them trouble with some of the sex stuff in the film. Well now it s not just rumoring, Zack and Miri has been officially hit with the NC-17 kiss of death.

It was the guys at Kevin s own site NewsAskew who first uncovered it. A search on the MPPA s official site lists Zack and Miri Make a Porno as Rating: NC-17 . Reason for the rating? As expected, Rated NC-17 for some graphic sexuality. Gee, thanks MPAA. As if we couldn t figure that out from the title. I m sure people everywhere were planning to take their kids.

Though I think we d all rather see the NC-17 cut and watch the movie as its director originally intended it to be seen, slapping any movie with an NC-17 spells box office doom. Not because people won t show up to see it, but because most major theaters will refuse to carry it, thus taking away our right to choose whether or not we want it in front of our eyes. The really frustrating thing in this particular case is that if any filmmaker has the kind of audience necessary to blow up the stigma attached to an NC-17, it s Kevin Smith. Heck, an NC-17 rating might even help his ticket sales& his crowd is going to be there money in hand regardless. Sadly if it s not playing, they re powerless to support it.

Don t worry though, the fight s not over for Kevin Smith s Porno. Under the movie s rating on the MPAA site, there s a little note which reads: Pending Appeal . That means they re fighting the rating, and there s still reason to think this thing will eventually get the R it needs to show up in a theater near you. Of course who knows what sort of cuts Kevin will have to make to his film in order to achieve that. When the MPAA gets involved with what you ll be allowed to see, there s always a depressing chance that one of the casualties of their interference could be the movie s funniest scene. I guess there s always DVD.
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I think its the title of the film more so than the content. Smith said that the R rated version of Clerks 2 that you saw in theaters and DVD is the same version he sent to the MPAA and there is a dude banging a donkey in it. I hope he doesn't give in and change the title or any of the content. Even if he does it will just make the DVD release that much better. Can't wait to see it, October 31st can't come soon enough! Kevin Smith is the greatest writer/director of all time!!! :w00t:

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They asked Seth Rogan what he thought about it, and he said in a nutshell that its really messed up that movies about killing and torture and things that are in most cases completely wrong get R ratings but the second someone mentions sex, something that is completely natural and that most everyone does sometimes in their lives, it gets slapped with an NC17 rating.

I thought he kind of nailed it on the head with that one. I don't get why our society is so uptight about sex. Its pretty messed up that we see no problem with kids seeing movies like Hostel but freak the **** out when a movie has anything sexual in it.

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lax32 (7/21/2008)
They asked Seth Rogan what he thought about it, and he said in a nutshell that its really messed up that movies about killing and torture and things that are in most cases completely wrong get R ratings but the second someone mentions sex, something that is completely natural and that most everyone does sometimes in their lives, it gets slapped with an NC17 rating.

I thought he kind of nailed it on the head with that one. I don't get why our society is so uptight about sex. Its pretty messed up that we see no problem with kids seeing movies like Hostel but freak the **** out when a movie has anything sexual in it.

We are the only country in the world that is like that when it comes to sex, it's actually quite disturbing.

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lax32 (7/21/2008)
They asked Seth Rogan what he thought about it, and he said in a nutshell that its really messed up that movies about killing and torture and things that are in most cases completely wrong get R ratings but the second someone mentions sex, something that is completely natural and that most everyone does sometimes in their lives, it gets slapped with an NC17 rating.

I thought he kind of nailed it on the head with that one. I don't get why our society is so uptight about sex. Its pretty messed up that we see no problem with kids seeing movies like Hostel but freak the **** out when a movie has anything sexual in it.

We are the only country in the world that is like that when it comes to sex, it's actually quite disturbing.

No, we're not. We just don't have the same set of standards that a lot of western Europe has and please don't get western Europe confused with "the rest of the world."

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This...is...utter...bullCRAP! I don't care what it's rated, I'd go see it either way because it's Kevin Smith and his movies are always raunchy but yet always good hearted. But if I don't hae the option to go see it, I guess I won't. I'll end up having to buy it just to watch it, but I would probably buy it after watching it anyway, because it's Kevin Smith. Blockbuster won't carry it if it's NC-17.

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Review from JoBlo.com

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The first ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO trailer was so raunchy the MPAA promptly had it pulled from the interwebs. Lucky for us, Kevin Smith is bringing ZACK AND MIRI to the Comic-Con for a 90-minute panel in Hall H. You can bet he'll bring some new footage, perhaps this time a trailer that's been approved by the MPAA.

While we sit and count ourselves lucky to see a trailer, some New Mexican got lucky enough to see the whole thing. Loyal JoBlo reader JamesinABQ writes in with his thoughts on a test screening he caught in Albuquerque. Turns out he liked it quite a bit! Very mild spoilers are ahead but not much to worry about. Check it out below!

I saw a test screening of ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO a few weeks ago in Albuquerque, NM (where Seth Rogan was filming OBSERVE AND REPORT). Both Rogan and director Kevin Smith were in the audience. The film was a #####in' blast. And I say #####in' because, like all great Kevin Smith tomes this baby has profanity, tits and chuckles for everyone in the family. The audience ate it up and had a blast.

The film follows Zack and Miri, two friends/roommates who are on the down and outs and resort to making porn with random "actors" to pay the rent. Initially the premise is a little ludicrous but it really works. Zack and Miri, played by Seth Rogan and Elizabeth Banks, are hilarious and perfect for their roles; Seth being the shlubby, desperate secret lover of Miri and Banks being a little bit of a #####...in a good way! Yet the film really succeeds with the secondary characters, specifically the other "porn" actors and the porn's financier, Delaney, played by the great and highly-underrated comedian Craig Robinson ("The Office"), who gets a lot of the laughs in this film. The "porn" actors and crew include Kevin Smith regulars Jeff Anderson ("Clerks") and Jason Mewes ("Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"), in a rather surprising, albeit awesome role, as well as Traci Lords and real porn star Katie Morgan ("Spunk'd: The Movie", "Sex Trek: Where No Man Has ##### B4", and many other classics) in a real acting role, and she's actually quite good.

I don't want to give too much of the plot away, and I won't, but I'll say that the film is a real crowd pleaser. It falls in line with the smart, raunchy yet heartfelt comedies, like "Knocked Up" and "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and truth is, it s a breath of fresh air. Kevin Smith makes a balls-to-the-walls Kevin Smith comedy, without the in-jokes and movie trivia that alienated some of the more idiotic element of moviegoers. This film has the same broad appeal as the Judd Apatow films, with a Kevin Smith touch.

As to the MPAA push to cut the film's more sexual elements in order to retain an "R" rating, I don't know what cut I saw, but if it is the original, I see no changes needed. The film didn t boast more tits, #####, vag, or otherwise than I've seen in, say, "Harold and Kumar Escape from..." or other comedies and to make any more cuts would be a sin. (##### you, MPAA)

Finally, after leaving the film and shaking hands with Kevin Smith himself (yes, I almost blew my load in my 501's), I thought of that ##### that attempted to call out Kevin Smith at a Comic Con Q&A a while back, asking Smith when he was going to make a film that didn't rehash characters, storylines or actors. I hope that ##### sees this film. He actually will probably enjoy himself. Or not. Nonetheless, he'll still be a #####.

Here is the clip from the Q&A that the guy is talking about in the last paragraph, its funny as ****:

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Dem Birds Can Fly (7/22/2008)
"I couldn't hear you, but I can see your man boobs from here."

lmao that was funny. I want to see this movie also.  Blockbuster puts up Unrated movies, but they wouldnt put out this movie?

I will def see this movie. will it be in theaters if its NC17?

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Dem Birds Can Fly (7/22/2008)
"I couldn't hear you, but I can see your man boobs from here."

lmao that was funny. I want to see this movie also.  Blockbuster puts up Unrated movies, but they wouldnt put out this movie?

I will def see this movie. will it be in theaters if its NC17?

Unrated movies usually aren't that much worse than the theatrical version. Very rarely. The movie Descent (not the cave movie), its a movie with Rosario Dawson and she's a rape victim, it was rated NC17, Blockbuster carries a version that is edited to be an R-Rating.

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