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EDdontellGregknapstinks (6/25/2008)
That is 2005 Stats

What's even more impressive is the Passer Ratings:

D.J. SHOCKLEY STATS
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StatisticsAttCompPctYdsTDIntRatingAttYdsAvgTD
200531017355.82,588245148.3783224.14
2004602643.346441127241134.70
200321942.9881184.2161016.31
2002523261.541552152.63610732
Career44324054.23,555349142.8
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isn't it amazing how a guy who, according to the NFL, "has no career stats" in 3 yrs and played 1 season of football in 4 yrs of college is somehow, according the absurd UGA homers on this board, capable of making the team over Harrington or Redman? 

un-#####ing-real

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I WILL proudly eat crow....:cool:

 

I've given my anaysis, let's see yours.  Explain to me how he realistically gets real playing time. 

1. Redmon.... 1-3...could've won 1 more.

2. Harrington....flat out terrible...holds the ball too long...indecisive...no pocket presense/awareness....throws too many INTs.

3.  Matt Ryan....well...72 million can't sit for too long....

So having said that, if Shockley stays healthy....he'll be the #2 with Ryan starting and handing off the ball.

 

Very weak argument, you can't do better than that?  Last time I checked #2 is sitting on the bench.  And it's Redman, not Redmon. 

Your reprisal may become my new sig if you can't do better. 

I don't need to say much more...I mean you know the story....SEC Champ...148+ Passer Rating in first and only full season as a starter...tied the school record with 24 TDs...the FO wants him around...academically sound....no issues off the field....don't mind waiting his turn....what else...

 

lol....like being an SEC champ really #####ing matters to the FO.  A 148 passer rating?  Well, that's good and all but Greene's was just as high, and ummmmm.....where is he?  What makes you say the FO wants him around?  Do you have an inside source?  Academically sound?  WTF does that mean?  No issues off the field?....well, neither does Harrington or Redman. 

 

Bye bye, you lose

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You want stats, here's some stats:

 

Redman closed his career as the NCAA all-time leader in passes attempted and completed while finishing the 1999 season as one of just three Division I-A signalcallers to throw for more than 12,000 yards in a career.

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The Parade National High School Player of the Year at nearby Male High, Redman finished his Cardinal career completing 1,031 of 1,679 passes for 12,541 yards and 84 touchdowns.

A first-team all-Conference USA selection and the league's offensive player of the year in 1999, Redman also added the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award to his mantle.

Redman's junior campaign of 1998 rewrote the U of L and C-USA record books as he passed for 4,042 yards and 29 scores despite playing in just 10 regular season games.

His 44-of-56, 592-yard afternoon against East Carolina was the nation's top single game passing performance in 1998.

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isn't it amazing how a guy who, according to the NFL, "has no career stats" in 3 yrs and played 1 season of football in 4 yrs of college is somehow, according the absurd UGA homers on this board, capable of making the team over Harrington or Redman? 

un-#####ing-real

Well....05 stats shows that he had a very good year...lol!

2005 OPPONENTS
AttCompPctYdsTDIntYds/ARating
Boise State (Sep. 3)2416672895012236.6
South Carolina (Sep. 10)17847112026.678.9
La.-Monroe (Sep. 17)2013652461012.3184.8
at Miss. State (Sep. 24)362158312208.7149.5
at Tennessee (Oct. 8)271659207017.7116.3
at Vanderbilt (Oct. 15)301550298319.9159.8
Arkansas (Oct. 22)1066074107.4155.2
at Florida (Oct. 29)-
Auburn (Nov. 12)362056304208.4144.8
Kentucky (Nov. 19)311755159405.1140.5
at Georgia Tech (Nov. 26)341544198115.896.9
at LSU (Dec. 3)12650112209.3183.4
West Virginia (Jan. 2)332061277308.4161.1
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Jake Delhome, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck, Drew Brees, Derek Anderson, Marc Bulger, Jon Kitna, David Gerad, Matt Shaub!

I guess all of these starters are all exceptions to the rule to, some of wich were not even drafted.

I guess Joey noodle arm and David on the run Carr are exeptions to the rule also. Being they were 1sty's and there not starting in the league rite now.

Not sayin Matt Ryan wont start in this league, just saying you guys dont know about Shockley just like you dont know about Ryan.

Get a clue quit talkin out your azzes, come up with some real info for this debate.

Or maybe you can just keep drinkin your Dr. Pepper and smokin your Cigs cause your shure dont make much since at all.

Yeah... you see, the thing is is that all those QBs you listed have at least some measure of talent. DJ doesn't.

Do you wanna know what DJ's job essentially was during his one and only year of playing football in a league where his competition wasn't other children?

1) Hand off to the stud RB.

2) Dump off to the stud RB and let him handle the other 20-60 yards on the "long" pass play.

3) Hand off to the stud RB.

4) Throw the occasional 30 yard wobbler to the sideline and wait for your athletically superior WR to grab the jump ball from the little Gamecock DB.

5) Hand off to the stud RB.

6) Lather, rinse, repeat...

You gotta be able to throw a tight spiral with touch and hit a WR in stride at this level. DJ has never even been asked to do that, let alone remotely able to pull off the feat.

Since, for the moment, there is space for him on the roster, management will once again use him to drive up preseason ticket sales among the many members of the UGA fanbase who don't possess the football acumen to distinguish between "NFL" and "SEC." After that, there will be no further use for him and Shockley's little magic carpet ride as a member of an NFL team will at last come to an end. Then, mercifully, we'll never have to hear his name again. Unless, of course, it is being spoken in a sentence that also includes the words "Talley" or "Bobo."

Think I'll crack open a DP and have a smoke now...

So I guess that explains the 24 TDs he had....or the high passer rating...:cool:

 

ummmm....that's exactly what that does

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So I guess that explains the 24 TDs he had....or the high passer rating...:cool:

NEWSFLASH:

Those 24 TD's were in the SEC, not in the NFL.

Those are his most current stats....

and he did that in a running offense. His recievers were not stellar either

if you truly believe that if D.J. came out this year that he would have been a late first to second rd pick I truly feel sorry for you.  That's implying that he's better than Henne and Brohm. 

 

You UGA fans are so ridiculous

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also coop DJ has a farther YPA than Ryan, so does that mean that Ryan dumps off more than Ryan??

Yep. But dumping off because none of your downfield receivers are open after reading the defense/going through your progressions and dumping off because it's your primary means of getting your receivers the ball are two different things. Besides, Ryan had twice as many attempts as Shockley and no running game to fall back on. Anytime your passing game has to cover for no running game, your YPA is gonna go down.

And don't tell me UGA had no running game that year. When you have a QB who only throws for 2,500 yards, you're a running team. I don't care if there was a RBBC that year - I bet those two or three RBs had over 1,500 yards combined, especially if you include DJ's rushing totals. The "stud RB" I referred to was that commitee and their combined efforts.

So my original evaluation stands: Ride the running game and throw an out pattern every once in a while. Same four plays ad nauseum - typical SEC football game. That's what I saw from DJ when I was forced to watch a UGA game that year and nothing anyone says will make me remember it any differently.

 

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You want stats, here's some stats:

 

Redman closed his career as the NCAA all-time leader in passes attempted and completed while finishing the 1999 season as one of just three Division I-A signalcallers to throw for more than 12,000 yards in a career.

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The Parade National High School Player of the Year at nearby Male High, Redman finished his Cardinal career completing 1,031 of 1,679 passes for 12,541 yards and 84 touchdowns.

A first-team all-Conference USA selection and the league's offensive player of the year in 1999, Redman also added the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award to his mantle.

Redman's junior campaign of 1998 rewrote the U of L and C-USA record books as he passed for 4,042 yards and 29 scores despite playing in just 10 regular season games.

His 44-of-56, 592-yard afternoon against East Carolina was the nation's top single game passing performance in 1998.

Impressive...I'd say! You see that's the difference between you and I.  I can agree when I see something that makes sense.  If it's true...

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You want stats, here's some stats:

 

Redman closed his career as the NCAA all-time leader in passes attempted and completed while finishing the 1999 season as one of just three Division I-A signalcallers to throw for more than 12,000 yards in a career.

spacer.gif

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The Parade National High School Player of the Year at nearby Male High, Redman finished his Cardinal career completing 1,031 of 1,679 passes for 12,541 yards and 84 touchdowns.

A first-team all-Conference USA selection and the league's offensive player of the year in 1999, Redman also added the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award to his mantle.

Redman's junior campaign of 1998 rewrote the U of L and C-USA record books as he passed for 4,042 yards and 29 scores despite playing in just 10 regular season games.

His 44-of-56, 592-yard afternoon against East Carolina was the nation's top single game passing performance in 1998.

You forgot these numbers Sir:

Redman& LOL!!
Glossary Â· ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+), Â· CSV Â· PRE Â· GameLog Â· Playoffs Â· 100/300/100
YearAgeTmPosGGSCmpAttCmp%YdsTDTD%Int
200023BAL 202366.719000
200124BAL 0000 00 0
200225BALqb669718253.3103473.83
200326BAL 2071353.858002
200730ATL 748914959.71079106.75
Career   171019534756.22190174.910
4 yrs BAL 10610619853.5111173.55
1 yr ATL 748914959.71079106.75
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Impressive...I'd say! You see that's the difference between you and I.  I can agree when I see something that makes sense.  If it's true...

 

No, the difference between you and I is I can recognize what makes sense and what doesn't. 

Make some sense from these numbers...Sir....:cool:

Redman& LOL!!
Glossary Â· ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+), Â· CSV Â· PRE Â· GameLog Â· Playoffs Â· 100/300/100
YearAgeTmPosGGSCmpAttCmp%YdsTDTD%Int
200023BAL 202366.719000
200124BAL 0000 00 0
200225BALqb669718253.3103473.83
200326BAL 2071353.858002
200730ATL 748914959.71079106.75
Career   171019534756.22190174.910
4 yrs BAL 10610619853.5111173.55
1 yr ATL 748914959.71079106.75
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How bout these numbers?

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D.J. Shockley | #3 | QB

Atlanta Falcons | Official Team Site

Height: 6-0   Weight: 214   Age: 25

Born: 3/25/1983 Riverdale , GA

College: Georgia

Experience: 2nd season

High School: North Clayton HS [College Park, GA]

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My point is they were not taken in the 1st round, and if your stuck on the 1 year of playing time. Lets brake out the stats for all of those guys senior years. One more thing, stats are not the end all be all either! Point is when DJ got his shot he shined, you know it and I know it, if your not willing to admit that than keep talkin out your azzes. Its because that you know of this that you are scared to death that he is going to get his chance and prove you guys wrong.

If he gets his chance I will be proud to serve up portions of baked crow fresh out the oven for all to eat.

If it turns out that he does not get his chance! I will support Redman, Ryan either one I am a falcons fan first and they are both more than capable QBs. I will eat my own crow if this happens, just tired of scared bios folks that talk out there azzes.

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How bout these numbers?

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D.J. Shockley | #3 | QB

Atlanta Falcons | Official Team Site

Height: 6-0   Weight: 214   Age: 25

Born: 3/25/1983 Riverdale , GA

College: Georgia

Experience: 2nd season

High School: North Clayton HS [College Park, GA]

team rosters
quick stats (2007)
Select a TeamArizona CardinalsAtlanta FalconsBaltimore RavensBuffalo BillsCarolina PanthersChicago BearsCincinnati BengalsCleveland BrownsDallas CowboysDenver BroncosDetroit LionsGreen Bay PackersHouston TexansIndianapolis ColtsJacksonville JaguarsKansas City ChiefsMiami DolphinsMinnesota VikingsNew England PatriotsNew Orleans SaintsNew York GiantsNew York JetsOakland RaidersPhiladelphia EaglesPittsburgh SteelersSan Diego ChargersSan Francisco 49ersSeattle SeahawksSt. Louis RamsTampa Bay BuccaneersTennessee TitansWashington Redskins
TDS
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INT
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YDS
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RTG
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Recent Games more
This player does not have any statistics...
 
Career Stats more
SeasonTeamPassingRushingFumbles
GGSCompAttPctYdsAvgTDIntSckSckYRateAttYdsAvgTDFUMLost
2006 Atlanta Falcons 0 0 ------------------0.0------------
TOTAL000.000.000000.0000.0000

Neither does Ryan...but you're willing to see what he can do....correct????  :)

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Falcons QB D.J. Shockley (ACL surgery) has been medically cleared to participate in Organized Team Activities.
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A slow recovery reduced Shockley's odds of making the 53-man roster, but he probably wasn't going to anyway. Atlanta will likely hang onto Shockley for a while because the Georgia alum will increase preseason game ticket sales.
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Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

LMAO.  This thread is OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Falcons QB D.J. Shockley (ACL surgery) has been medically cleared to participate in Organized Team Activities.
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A slow recovery reduced Shockley's odds of making the 53-man roster, but he probably wasn't going to anyway. Atlanta will likely hang onto Shockley for a while because the Georgia alum will increase preseason game ticket sales.
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Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

LMAO.  This thread is OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your article is close to being 1 month old....:w00t::w00t::w00t: Surely you can do better that this....:w00t::w00t::w00t:

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You know what's ironic about this whole conversation?  Anybody wanna guess?

Matt Ryan will be the determining factor if DJ makes the team.  If Joey gets cut in favor of DJ, that leaves Redman and our 72M dollar rookie.  If Redman gets hurt, no way DJ is playing and no way Ryan is playing unless they are convinced he's ready.  That's why I say they don't take a chance by cutting Joey.  DJ gets cut or goes to practice squad. 

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First off I would like to thank you for not talking out of your azz on this reply. Its seems pretty well thought out. Sept for the fact that you automatically slot Ryan infront of Shockley because he makes 72 mill. For the most part first year rookies sit the bench there first year no matter how much money they make. Second, Joey will be cut Malarchy has already cut him before when they where at Miami. Malachy has no faith in Noodle arm.

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First off I would like to thank you for not talking out of your azz on this reply. Its seems pretty well thought out. Sept for the fact that you automatically slot Ryan infront of Shockley because he makes 72 mill. For the most part first year rookies sit the bench there first year no matter how much money they make. Second, Joey will be cut Malarchy has already cut him before when they where at Miami. Malachy has no faith in Noodle arm.

If Joey gets cut, that's a good sign the coaches are impressed with Ryan.  As for "talkin' out my azz", I try to have intelligent discussions on here until some idiot like "Theyhateme" or "GeorgiaFan" starts spewing nonsense on here.  Normally I could care less about DJ because he's insignificant, just like any other 4th string QB, but because I'm tired of all the Shockley threads I want to see him cut. 

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I dont mind who starts out of Redman, Ryan or Shockley. I think all three are very capable QBs. But me as a person would love to see Shock get his shot! I am not going to try to prove my point though by attacking the other QBs stats or college seasons or any of that. I am also not going to attack and talk out of my azz about the other QBs supporters that support there QB by bashing on anyone and anything that supports the  other QB they dont like.

I am sick of these guys posting crap like you support Shock so you are a GA Homer.

UGA is not my favorite College team, if you guys are posting that we are UGA homer's then what does that make ya'll  Florida homers? No I am a Falcon homer that just so happens to realize talent when he see's it and does not want that talent to slip through the cracks to another team.

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Stop being f'ing haters.

The very same arguments can be used for both DJ

and Ryan.

Neither has pro stats

Neither played with stars on their teams in college

Both have the potential to make falcons very successful and AB a lot of money

If vick and schuab were still here Ryan would be third string

if Ryan were here last year and got hurt he would be third string

Ryan is accurate, smart, and has a decent arm

DJ is smart, mobile, has a great arm. However DJ has learned 3 different pro offenses

and has seen pro defenses albeit preseason

It seems that people here have the hate the person everyone likes be it Ryan, vick, crumpler, hall, Shuab, or Shockley.

I'll support any member of the team except harrington. While there is no proof that Ryan and dj suck. There's plently of proof that Joey sucks.

Oh... there's no right way to be a fan

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First off I would like to thank you for not talking out of your azz on this reply. Its seems pretty well thought out. Sept for the fact that you automatically slot Ryan infront of Shockley because he makes 72 mill. For the most part first year rookies sit the bench there first year no matter how much money they make. Second, Joey will be cut Malarchy has already cut him before when they where at Miami. Malachy has no faith in Noodle arm.

If Joey gets cut, that's a good sign the coaches are impressed with Ryan.  As for "talkin' out my azz", I try to have intelligent discussions on here until some idiot like "Theyhateme" or "GeorgiaFan" starts spewing nonsense on here.  Normally I could care less about DJ because he's insignificant, just like any other 4th string QB, but because I'm tired of all the Shockley threads I want to see him cut. 

Resulted to "name-calling" again....when all I do is post my opinions with statical data....:cool:

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