SteelerDawg6481 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 sivik_outkast (6/17/2008)You aren't getting what I'm saying here, the Giants have a guy they move inside at DT (Justin Tuck) who is not a DT. They rotate a DE inside on certain downs to try and gain an advantage. Jamaal is definitely not a DT that could go every down. However, he can be useful in my opinion and tie up some extra guys on the inside which will allow whoever they bring in (IMO Biermann) on that down to try and get to the QB. That rotation is similar to that of the Giants. I don't mean their entire defensive scheme. I think moving JA inside on a few plays here and there gives us more options on the outside for rushing. This is a good move in my opinion, but not for the entire season. Only on certain plays would this be worth anything.I understand what you're saying, I'm just not buying JA at DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Patience, Grasshopper, Patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaud Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 The thread title is wrong for right now but Steve did say that the coaching staff feels that his future is at DT permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Shaud (6/17/2008)The thread title is wrong for right now but Steve did say that the coaching staff feels that his future is at DT permantely.If that what coach feels like he is best at then I will support that decision even if I think he should only really be there on third downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 IF this is true maybe its not that jamaal can't play DE, but we have someone else who can play DE real well. Maybe they think jamaal can play well at DT, he did play good against the run last year. As far as him being a top 10 pick last year, they new he was going to be a work in progress. So don't say he is headed to bust-ville just yet nobody knows except for the coaching staff what is going to happen.If they're thinking about making a permanent position change in his 2nd year that's not a good thing IMO.We drafted him with the #8 pick as a DE to replace Kerney. Now if we're moving him to DT that means we STILL need to find a replacement at DE. So in that respect Anderson would be a bust.Oh and you don't take developmental players with the #8 pick unless you have someone on the team they can play behind. We let that guy walk and Anderson was supposed to replace him. Don't forget that going INTO the draft last year we were supposed to be a contender for the playoffs.Justify this to yourself however you want. In my opinion it's because of move like these that we are where we are.With the #8 pick we needed a guy that could come in right away and make a difference. Jamaal didn't do that. There were 2 games where he didn't even show up on the stat sheet in any way. If he missed EVERY game last year would it have made any difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Purple Label Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 All Jamaal Anderson needs to do is train hard. Who told you guys that 6'6" 288lbs is too big for a DE? Reggie White was about 6'6" 300. As I have said before, they whole defense sucked. Not just Jamaal. He will shine. He has the right heart and attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Duke 6 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Sun Tzu 7 (6/17/2008)IF this is true maybe its not that jamaal can't play DE, but we have someone else who can play DE real well. Maybe they think jamaal can play well at DT, he did play good against the run last year. As far as him being a top 10 pick last year, they new he was going to be a work in progress. So don't say he is headed to bust-ville just yet nobody knows except for the coaching staff what is going to happen.If they're thinking about making a permanent position change in his 2nd year that's not a good thing IMO.We drafted him with the #8 pick as a DE to replace Kerney. Now if we're moving him to DT that means we STILL need to find a replacement at DE. So in that respect Anderson would be a bust.Oh and you don't take developmental players with the #8 pick unless you have someone on the team they can play behind. We let that guy walk and Anderson was supposed to replace him. Don't forget that going INTO the draft last year we were supposed to be a contender for the playoffs.Justify this to yourself however you want. In my opinion it's because of move like these that we are where we are.With the #8 pick we needed a guy that could come in right away and make a difference. Jamaal didn't do that. There were 2 games where he didn't even show up on the stat sheet in any way. If he missed EVERY game last year would it have made any difference?How could he be a bust if he replaces rod coleman?He caused the fumble dhall ran back against the titans.Yeah it would make a difference in our performance and his development if he didnt play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 bigduke633 How could he be a bust if he replaces rod coleman? Is clear that the poster you are referring to doesn't understand the meaning of the word "bust" means as it relates to NFL draft picks. Since he doesn't understand the definition of the term as it would be used by an NFL executive, his point is incoherent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Duke 6 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 21 year old starting in the nfl willing to do whatever it takes is ........a bust?Rooky throwing punches with the elite doesnt do it for some.I like andersons size and flexibility.Hes just started.I am hopefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burdman Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Sun Tzu 7 (6/17/2008)Nice.... I guess that means a few more development years for Jamaal.... since he was the #8 pick he's quickly headed to "Bust-ville."once he gets there Hopefully he'll be ice enough to refer his realtor to Matt RYAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADBABY Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 They haven't made any such decisions just watching themin what coach Budreaux called "underwear". They are going to makethose calls when they have seen them in pads for awhile. One wouldassume if Anderson is moving inside on running plays as well as passingdowns he will be put on a weight gain program asap. It sounds like amiscommunication to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budd63 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Wyche didnt right this. He wouldnt have refered to the team as we in an article, but good concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 xSICKxWITHxITx (6/17/2008)Sun Tzu 7 (6/17/2008)Well... if this happens do we now have aneed at DE?Nice.... I guess that means a few more development yearsfor Jamaal.... since he was the #8 pick he's quickly headed to "Bust-ville."A top 10 pick should be an immediate impact player at one position.... Wait, if they're already moving him to DT does that mean the coaching staff thinks he's not going to be a quality DE?IF this is true maybe its not that jamaal can't play DE, but we have someone else who can play DE real well. Maybe they think jamaal can play well at DT, he did play good against the run last year. As far as him being a top10 pick last year, they new he was going to be a work in progress. So don't say he is headed to bust-ville just yet nobody knows except for the coaching staff what is going to happen.Chauncy Davis/and Bierman if he pans out will see some snaps at DE if this switch happens I see it as more of an evaluation thing for Anderson and it's only gonna happen on passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugadawg Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 just to add my 2 cents in I watched the show we are talking about. They were interviewing Steve and asked him about JA. He said they have really worked on his technique this off season to be better. Then he said that the coaching staff plans on using him in a DT Justin Tuck like situation. Then he said that the coaching staff sees his skill set better suited for DT at this time and he may have to make the move there in the future, but not anything set in stone. He never said that they were definitely making the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~SEAMILL~ Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 ugadawg (6/17/2008)just to add my 2 cents in I watched the show we are talking about. They were interviewing Steve and asked him about JA. He said they have really worked on his technique this off season to be better. Then he said that the coaching staff plans on using him in a DT Justin Tuck like situation. Then he said that the coaching staff sees his skill set better suited for DT at this time and he may have to make the move there in the future, but not anything set in stone. He never said that they were definitely making the move.Thanks for the clarity. I don't care where he lines up, as long as he is productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Doesn't say much for our outlook at DT if we have to move ends inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerDawg6481 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 muskokas finest (6/17/2008)Doesn't say much for our outlook at DT if we have to move ends insideDo you ever have anything positive to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark hunter Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 i have mentioned this a few times.....we didnt draft dorsey because the cs had a plan & didnt think a dt was as important as we do(didnt draft one, didnt pick one up in fa or udfa)they know what they want to do, but i feel sorry for ja if he has to learn another pos. especially on the nfl level when he has no exp. at that pos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedefensedefense Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 SteelerDawg6481 (6/17/2008)muskokas finest (6/17/2008)Doesn't say much for our outlook at DT if we have to move ends insideDo you ever have anything positive to say?Do you ever have a sig less than 30" long... fkn rediculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 SteelerDawg6481 (6/17/2008)muskokas finest (6/17/2008)Doesn't say much for our outlook at DT if we have to move ends insideDo you ever have anything positive to say?Do you ever have anything valid to say? or do you just cut others opinions without offering up your own for discussion. Don't confuse positive with realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 muskokas, after watching a little Dexter this year, I am more disturbed by your avatar than your posts, but anyway...Hopefully the Defense hs big plans for JAnderson. I think he can be a beast, if he doesn't have a bonified ##### coaching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Magic Man (6/18/2008)muskokas, after watching a little Dexter this year, I am more disturbed by your avatar than your posts, but anyway...Hopefully the Defense hs big plans for JAnderson. I think he can be a beast, if he doesn't have a bonified ##### coaching him.If you watched Dexter on CBS, you missed half the show. Worth grabbing the DVD or seeing on demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 How could he be a bust if he replaces rod coleman?He caused the fumble dhall ran back against the titans.Yeah it would make a difference in our performance and his development if he didnt play.Just because he lines up in the same poisition as a former player doesn't mean he's actually replacing them. He still needs to go out and perform.That would be like saying we had Redman so we already had Vick's replacement on the team and there was no need for Ryan.I hope Jamaal works out but I think he needs to stick with a position.Moving him to DT permanently is not good for his development. If we drafted him in the middle of the first then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.This guy was a top 10 ten pick. How were our scouts sooo off about this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, but unless Anderson gains 30 more pounds, I don't see him playing DT.Plus, he already plays too high as a DE. There's no way he's going to learn the correct technique in order to play low enough at the DT position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I hope whatever the coaching staff has planned with him it works out. They can utilize him anyway they choose but it's ultimately up to Jamaal Anderson to go out and produce. I hope he pans out because this team cant afford to fail on yet another top pick and by saying this in no way am I trying to insinuate that he's a bust. Good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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