swiftkick Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Former TE Alge Crumpler, who was released after the season and signed a two-year contract with Tennessee, got an early read on Falcons' rookie QB Matt Ryan. The veteran and now $72 Million Man trained at the same facility in Arizona last winter and routinely went through passing drills with each other."I had a chance to catch balls form him," Crumpler said. "He's a quality kid. He's got a good arm and he should be a very good quarterback in this league." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishfalcon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 but.. but... but some people on this board say that he will be a bust :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Danishfalcon (6/10/2008)but.. but... but some people on this board say that he will be a bust :w00t: then they are not falcon fans they are vick fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryka Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Mike (6/10/2008)Danishfalcon (6/10/2008)but.. b fut... but some people on this board say that he will be a bust :w00t: then they are not falcon fans they are vick fansNot Vick fans, simply not true fans of the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack-Straw Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 No, they are more like those people on the side of every road in the middle of nowhere that want to read your plam for Fifty bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?i mean 4real, thats what im sayin. hes not gonna say oh well he cant throw the ball that good, and his accuracy isnt on point, and he breaks down under pressure. HE WAS JUST CATCHING BALLS FOR HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerDawg6481 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?So you know more then a pro-bowl TE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don.reese Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I was hoping for Dorsey, but I'll love to be proved wrong on that pick. it don't matter now he is a Falcon and I hope he is the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 ive seen atleast 3 or 4 game tapes of Matt Ryan .... Dude is a winner.... He remind me of Phillip Rivers ALOT..... Neither has the strongest arm but both has that...... IT...... factor Also.... Both can make all the throws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 SteelerDawg6481 (6/10/2008)falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?So you know more then a pro-bowl TE?...WHAT? When did I ever claim to know more about football than Crump or make any assertions towards Matt Ryan's playing ability? All I'm saying is when a reporter asks a guy who just TRAINED with a player "what do you think of so-and-so?" that player is basically obligated to give a good review. Did anyone really expect Crump to say anything but "I think he's going to be a good player?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzCliche Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?Um.... Yeah. He could have. I dont see any reason that Crump would lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzCliche Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Why the **** would he be obligated to say something good? That's very fuzzy logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 mbrizzle (6/10/2008)falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?Um.... Yeah. He could have. I dont see any reason that Crump would lie.I've never heard of a player training with another player and then saying afterwards "man that guy was terrible" to a reporter. It's rude, inappropriate, and ill-mannered. That's like someone asking you in a public venue what you think about a co-worker and you blasting them in front of the whole world and saying they are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzCliche Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 falconva7 (6/10/2008)mbrizzle (6/10/2008)falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?Um.... Yeah. He could have. I dont see any reason that Crump would lie.I've never heard of a player training with another player and then saying afterwards "man that guy was terrible" to a reporter. It's rude, inappropriate, and ill-mannered. That's like someone asking you in a public venue what you think about a co-worker and you blasting them in front of the whole world and saying they are terrible.People at training camps in Arizona arent coworkers. There's no reason for Crump to lie. And you dont have to blast someone in contrast. There are shades of grey in between "praising" and "blasting" someone. A simple 'no-comment' or 'some areas need to be worked on, and he's working on them' type of comment would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozoatl Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I've never heard of a player training with another player and then saying afterwards "man that guy was terrible" to a reporter. It's rude, inappropriate, and ill-mannered. That's like someone asking you in a public venue what you think about a co-worker and you blasting them in front of the whole world and saying they are terrible. I think that's the whole point here (even though this report is old). During workouts, if AC caught some passes from Ryan and thought that the kid was a noodle arm, he wouldn't have said as much to reporters - he would have said NOTHING. The fact that he took the time to throw out a complement means something coming from a Pro Bowler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ok, I think this is going to be one of those things where we just agree to disagree. But I think he was just being courteous to the guy he just got done working out with. This: "He's a quality kid. He's got a good arm and he should be a very good quarterback in this league." does not sound like a very heartfelt compliment. It sounds like something the PR guy would tell you to say or something. In my personal opinion it just sounds like Crump was being courteous. And lets not act like Crump took out a full page ad in the Times to proclaim Matt Ryan as the next Peyton Manning, he said he will be a quality kid, that's hardly going out of his way to compliment Matt Ryan.Agree to disagree. This argument cannot be won by either side.Edit: If you look at the report, it looks like Crump was ASKED about Ryan. He had no chance to say nothing. Like I said, to me it doesn't look like he went out of his way, he was prompted by the reporter and the only appropriate thing was to compliment the guy he just worked with. You can't just say "no comment" when someone asks "what'd you think of Matt Ryan?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozoatl Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Edit: If you look at the report, it looks like Crump was ASKED about Ryan. He had no chance to say nothing. Like I said, to me it doesn't look like he went out of his way, he was prompted by the reporter and the only appropriate thing was to compliment the guy he just worked with. You can't just say "no comment" when someone asks "what'd you think of Matt Ryan?"First, I prefer 'discussion' - I don't think we're arguing! You could be right. If AC was asked what he thought, certainly he wouldn't come out and say "this kid sucks!" On the other hand, this is the new guy in ATL. #83 probably still has a little sore spot after last year, then being released, so even if he thought Ryan was Unitas incarnate, he wouldn't say that, either.Peace :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott hartley Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 mbrizzle (6/10/2008)Why the **** would he be obligated to say something good? That's very fuzzy logic.because it's professional? good manners? shows class and character not to bash players, even if they are on your former team? any of those cross your mind?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 falconva7 (6/10/2008)mbrizzle (6/10/2008)falconva7 (6/10/2008)Is anyone surprised that the guy he trained with said he's good? What's Crump supposed to do? Break down his mechanics?Um.... Yeah. He could have. I dont see any reason that Crump would lie.I've never heard of a player training with another player and then saying afterwards "man that guy was terrible" to a reporter. It's rude, inappropriate, and ill-mannered. That's like someone asking you in a public venue what you think about a co-worker and you blasting them in front of the whole world and saying they are terrible.falconva7,Alge Crumpler is not one to avoid speaking his mind. Crump was the first one to criticize Bobby Petrino in the media while Petrino was still there - early on in the season. So, for you to say Crump would more likely be obligated to "say something nice" is misguided.Sure, some people feel obligated to say something "politically correct" but I don't think Alge is that type of person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott hartley Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 swiftkick (6/10/2008)Former TE Alge Crumpler, who was released after the season and signed a two-year contract with Tennessee, got an early read on Falcons' rookie QB Matt Ryan. The veteran and now $72 Million Man trained at the same facility in Arizona last winter and routinely went through passing drills with each other."I had a chance to catch balls form him," Crumpler said. "He's a quality kid. He's got a good arm and he should be a very good quarterback in this league."Crumpler felt the same way about Vick swiftkick, so is he right or wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax-Falcon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Don't get me wrong - I'm glad that Crumpler had something good to say about Ryan - but falconva7 is dead on. You've got to be wearing some serious rose-colored glasses to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax-Falcon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 scott hartley (6/10/2008)swiftkick (6/10/2008)Former TE Alge Crumpler, who was released after the season and signed a two-year contract with Tennessee, got an early read on Falcons' rookie QB Matt Ryan. The veteran and now $72 Million Man trained at the same facility in Arizona last winter and routinely went through passing drills with each other."I had a chance to catch balls form him," Crumpler said. "He's a quality kid. He's got a good arm and he should be a very good quarterback in this league."Crumpler felt the same way about Vick swiftkick, so is he right or wrong? And that's the clincher. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burdman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 crumpler? first bill polian, now crumpler? based on what? catching balls? u people r desperate. ryan will be a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerFalcon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Mike (6/10/2008)Danishfalcon (6/10/2008)but.. but... but some people on this board say that he will be a bust :w00t: then they are not falcon fans they are vick fansi liked vick as a player but i like Matt Ryan too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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