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Pit I thought you wasn't going to act this way anymore? From this thread and the Braves thread nothing has changed with you. I'm starting to think this isn't an act and you don't know who you really are.

Doesn't bother me though.

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Well this is about Chaz Sutton and yes he made some comments regarding uf as his high school coach did, when this happened, and comments on urban meyer and how he handled Chaz Sutton.

Here it is:

Chaz Sutton will keep Nov. 15 circled on his calendar for the next five months.

That's when South Carolina is scheduled to square off with Florida at The Swamp in Gainesville in a contest that could help determine the SEC East crown.

If things had turned out the way he planned, Sutton would have been wearing the blue and orange uniform of the Gators on that day.

But, a curious last minute decision by the Florida coaching staff to revoke Sutton's scholarship offer set in motion a series of fortuitous events that led Sutton to sign a letter of intent with South Carolina on National Signing Day in February.

Just like that, USC added a four-star prospect into the mix at defensive end, a position that already possessed plenty of star power.

The 6-foot-4, 236-pound Sutton could also see action at linebacker if he plays well enough that the coaches have no choice but to put him on the field.

"They are projecting me to play defensive end and maybe a little bit of linebacker," Sutton said.

Even today, Florida's choice to withdraw its scholarship offer has Sutton scratching his head. Sutton committed to the Gators last summer and remained faithful to UF until January when he was informed he wouldn't be playing for the Gators.

Sutton was on his official visit to Gainesville when the UF coaching staff delivered the bad news.

"Basically, they dropped me," Sutton said. "They tried to say it was grades or whatever, but I didn't really believe that. It had to be something else. My grades aren't as terrible as some people said. I've heard from coaches and other people that they've kept players with worse grades than what I had. I just think it was bad business."

Once the USC coaching learned Florida had pulled Sutton's offer, Steve Spurrier quickly contacted him to see if he was still interested in playing for the Gamecocks.

He was.

But USC still had plenty of competition to beat for his services, including South Florida, Indiana, Louisville, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, West Virginia and California, before Sutton could be considered a Gamecock.

"I received a lot of phone calls asking who I was going to sign with," Sutton said. "I had a lot of offers on the table. I was just out there looking for options. South Carolina was really my number one option. Even when I was committed (to Florida), they stayed on me regarding my academics, SAT, the whole nine yards."

Sutton made an official visit to the USC campus in late January and liked what he saw. He committed to the Gamecock coaching staff following the visit and signed his LOI soon thereafter.

"When I went there on my official visit, it felt like home," Sutton said. "The campus blends in with the downtown. I like it. It's sort of like the Savannah School of Art and Design. It has a mixture of buildings all through downtown. That's how Columbia is."

Sutton quickly developed a strong connection with the USC coaches as well.

"I've got a tight bond with the coaches," Sutton said. "Coach Lawing is a pretty good guy. Coach Hunt, my recruiter, is a pretty good guy too. Coach Spurrier is a straight shooter. He doesn't give you a lot of B.S. That's what you want out of an organization."

Lawing's long-time experience as a defensive line coach he's been an assistant coach at the major Division I level since 1989 helped attract Sutton to USC.

"He's a pretty good coach," Sutton said. "He's been doing it a pretty long time. You want a guy who's coached nothing but D-line in his career, someone that knows his stuff and will teach you the right moves and technique and how to get upfield and make plays. Coach Lawing will do that."

By securing Sutton's signature, USC is gaining a player Rivals.com ranked as the No. 6 weakside defensive end in the nation and the 17th overall best player in the State of Georgia.

Sutton, who will bring tremendous athleticism to the position, is the jewel of a 2008 defensive line class that includes Ronald Byrd, Kenny Davis, Jarriel King and Devin Taylor.

Spurrier identified Sutton on the Gamecock Club tour as one of the incoming players who could see early playing time as a pass-rushing specialist.

"I'm pretty much focused on (playing early) and making plays on the field this year," said Sutton, who made 70.5 tackles and collected 22 sacks as a JHS senior.

The most important question left is whether Sutton will qualify academically. Sutton is taking finals right now and is scheduled to receive his high school diploma on Saturday.

He is still awaiting the results of the SAT exam he took recently knowing he must improve his score by at least 10 points to pass the threshold figure mandated by NCAA rules. He also needs to raise his GPA slightly.

"I'm just waiting on the last test I just took and I'm waiting for my academics to come through," Sutton said. "If I can put two more points on my GPA, then I'll be ready to go. We get out next week. I'm still working on school things right now."

If Sutton does not qualify, he'll probably attend Fork Union Military Academy for a semester while he tries to raise his test score. The strategy worked for three players that enrolled in January DB Akeem Auguste, DB Antonio Allen and RB Eric Baker.

Like most of USC's incoming players, Sutton is lifting weights and running through conditioning drills pursuant to the workout plan provided by USC strength and conditioning coach Mark Smith.

"It's a pretty intense workout," Sutton said. "I've never seen some of the things he has for the players. You just have to get yourself ready for it. If you want to play in the game, you have to sacrifice to get ready."

Sutton, who has 4.79 speed in the 40, is also working out under the watchful eye of a personal trainer in Savannah.

If he qualifies, Sutton will report to USC on July 2 along with the rest of the first-year players.

"It's pretty exciting. It's tough waiting. I can't wait to get out there and play football again," Sutton said. "When I was a kid, I never thought I'd make it this far coming out of Savannah."

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Wow that makes it look terrible for poor Chaz. It almost made me forget that he told the UF staff in December that he did not want to be a sign and place therefore the decision to let him go. He knew he could would have a very good chance getting into SC where as he had no chance of making it into UF.

Oh and going back to the thread title who are the other guys that were dropped by us so that you were able to say "yet another player dropped" ? Just wondering if you cared to identify those guys.

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Jgator (6/10/2008)
Wow that makes it look terrible for poor Chaz. It almost made me forget that he told the UF staff in December that he did not want to be a sign and place therefore the decision to let him go. He knew he could would have a very good chance getting into SC where as he had no chance of making it into UF.

Oh and going back to the thread title who are the other guys that were dropped by us so that you were able to say "yet another player dropped" ? Just wondering if you cared to identify those guys.

Well i will name one that is used a lot and that's Franklin Green. Not saying I agree, but i have seen his name plenty in this discussion. Jgator you also have to remember when this happened to Chaz his head coach came out and put down UF and put the blame on them. He also made the comment unlike Florida he knows that Mark Richt will stand behind players if they are very close to qualifying and he won't give up on them. Now what you said above may be true, but there are always two sides to these stories.

*** Let me be clear I am not bashing meyer or florida and I am not saying Chaz was treated poorly. I was just pointing out that his story has been out there and there are always two sides to the story.

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Vince DiLetto (6/11/2008)
Sounds like Florida didn't think Chaz was putting in the effort to get his grades right. We know it wasn't cause they didn't want the talent cause Florida needs all the help they can get on D.
Exactly.

Florida has a talent problem on D, especially the DL, and that goes back to Meyer.

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Vince DiLetto (6/11/2008)
Sounds like Florida didn't think Chaz was putting in the effort to get his grades right. We know it wasn't cause they didn't want the talent cause Florida needs all the help they can get on D.
Exactly.

Florida has a talent problem on D, especially the DL, and that goes back to Meyer.

 

Hmmm, ok. We return one defensive end who in Jermaine Cunningham, who in his first year as a starter had 6 sacks and 11 TFL's. The other was the #5 prospect in the whole country just over a year ago. Add in Justin Trattou, John Brown, and Matt Patchan at DT all of which were very highly ranked and recruited(by Georgia among others) and I fail to see where the talent problem is. Add to that one of the best middle LB's in all of college football in Brandon Spikes behind them.

It goes back to the same thing man. If your going to talk smack about football at least know something about what your saying. Quit getting your material from other places and getting others to fight your battles for you. You want to pretend your a "witty heel" as you put it then go watch and make threads about wrestling. Most of us here though know your not pretending. Even your own fellow fans.

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Hmmm, ok. We return one defensive end who in Jermaine Cunningham, who in his first year as a starter had 6 sacks and 11 TFL's. The other was the #5 prospect in the whole country just over a year ago. Add in Justin Trattou, John Brown, and Matt Patchan at DT all of which were very highly ranked and recruited(by Georgia among others) and I fail to see where the talent problem is. Add to that one of the best middle LB's in all of college football in Brandon Spikes behind them.

It goes back to the same thing man. If your going to talk smack about football at least know something about what your saying. Quit getting your material from other places and getting others to fight your battles for you. You want to pretend your a "witty heel" as you put it then go watch and make threads about wrestling. Most of us here though know your not pretending. Even your own fellow fans.

YOur D-line better buckle up, or you're gonna lose 4 games again this season. B/c if you don't have good DLine play in the SEC, you lose. Simple as that.
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Hmmm, ok. We return one defensive end who in Jermaine Cunningham, who in his first year as a starter had 6 sacks and 11 TFL's. The other was the #5 prospect in the whole country just over a year ago. Add in Justin Trattou, John Brown, and Matt Patchan at DT all of which were very highly ranked and recruited(by Georgia among others) and I fail to see where the talent problem is. Add to that one of the best middle LB's in all of college football in Brandon Spikes behind them.

It goes back to the same thing man. If your going to talk smack about football at least know something about what your saying. Quit getting your material from other places and getting others to fight your battles for you. You want to pretend your a "witty heel" as you put it then go watch and make threads about wrestling. Most of us here though know your not pretending. Even your own fellow fans.

YOur D-line better buckle up, or you're gonna lose 4 games again this season. B/c if you don't have good DLine play in the SEC, you lose. Simple as that.

Ok Mr. Wizard. Once again try to know something. Our defense was #1 in the SEC last year vs. the run.  That would be mainly because of our front 7 which includes what?? The defensive line, thats right. Now almost every one of those 7 players except Derrick Harvey was a first year starter. It was our secondary that was the problem.

Oh thats right you must have forgot that almost our whole defense were first year starters. I dont know how since you were the one a year ago pointing out how we had to relace alll those guys and would struggle because of it. Then when we do you say its because we have a talent problem. Try to make a little sense and come up with an argument that has a little thought in it instead of spending all your time looking for little pictures that no one but yourself finds amusing.

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Ok Mr. Wizard. Once again try to know something. Our defense was #1 in the SEC last year vs. the run.  That would be mainly because of our front 7 which includes what?? The defensive line, thats right. Now almost every one of those 7 players except Derrick Harvey was a first year starter. It was our secondary that was the problem.

Oh thats right you must have forgot that almost our whole defense were first year starters. I dont know how since you were the one a year ago pointing out how we had to relace alll those guys and would struggle because of it. Then when we do you say its because we have a talent problem. Try to make a little sense and come up with an argument that has a little thought in it instead of spending all your time looking for little pictures that no one but yourself finds amusing.

Perhaps you were #1 against the run b/c you blew your opponets out when you did win and thusly, teams had to pass to catch back-up.

Your secondary isn't the greatest, either. It was burnt toast last year.

The Mullet Nation is so easy to antagonize. ;)

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Ok Mr. Wizard. Once again try to know something. Our defense was #1 in the SEC last year vs. the run.  That would be mainly because of our front 7 which includes what?? The defensive line, thats right. Now almost every one of those 7 players except Derrick Harvey was a first year starter. It was our secondary that was the problem.

Oh thats right you must have forgot that almost our whole defense were first year starters. I dont know how since you were the one a year ago pointing out how we had to relace alll those guys and would struggle because of it. Then when we do you say its because we have a talent problem. Try to make a little sense and come up with an argument that has a little thought in it instead of spending all your time looking for little pictures that no one but yourself finds amusing.

Perhaps you were #1 against the run b/c you blew your opponets out when you did win and thusly, teams had to pass to catch back-up.

Your secondary isn't the greatest, either. It was burnt toast last year.

The Mullet Nation is so easy to antagonize. ;)

Oh you havent anyagonized me in the least. Its just fun to come at someone with facts when you know they arent good enough to respond with anything more than babble and pictures. It makes you look very smart indeed if you haven't been able to tell by all the comments people say about you.

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Jgator (6/11/2008)It makes you look very smart indeed if you haven't been able to tell by all the comments people say about you.

Why the personal attacks?

Not singling you out Jgator...There have been quite a few going around in the college forum from many directions.

I say we try as hard as possible to stay away from them.

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Jgator (6/11/2008)It makes you look very smart indeed if you haven't been able to tell by all the comments people say about you.

Why the personal attacks?

Not singling you out Jgator...There have been quite a few going around in the college forum from many directions.

I say we try as hard as possible to stay away from them.

Because the guy comes out and says flat out he is baiting people into this crap and I have a problem with it. Ive been posting here since we started this forum and do not flame anyones players,coaches,fans, or team in general nor does anyone else. Im not attacking him anymore than anyone did in the thread a week ago when everyone said they were tired of this act and then he said he was going to change. I just dont think we need this around here and judging from others comments Im not the only one.

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Jgator (6/11/2008)
jdu00743 (6/11/2008)
Jgator (6/11/2008)It makes you look very smart indeed if you haven't been able to tell by all the comments people say about you.

Why the personal attacks?

Not singling you out Jgator...There have been quite a few going around in the college forum from many directions.

I say we try as hard as possible to stay away from them.

Because the guy comes out and says flat out he is baiting people into this crap and I have a problem with it. Ive been posting here since we started this forum and do not flame anyones players,coaches,fans, or team in general nor does anyone else. Im not attacking him anymore than anyone did in the thread a week ago when everyone said they were tired of this act and then he said he was going to change. I just dont think we need this around here and judging from others comments Im not the only one.

I have to agree: It would make for more mature discussion around here if his gimmick was not around.

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