'King' Arthur has made himself and Matt Ryan marked men...

[londonfalcon 1]

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londonfalcon (5/21/2008)

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I think that says it all.

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[SteelerDawg6481 0]

cooperbh (5/21/2008)

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Chuck Noll started with the QB.

Bill Walsh started with the QB.

Jimmy Johnson started with the QB.

Bill Polian started with the QB. Twice.

Sounds like a winning formula to me...

OWNED!:w00t:

[dzor22 196]

norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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Falcons agreed to terms with No. 3 pick Matt Ryan. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports it's a six-year deal worth a maximum value of $72 million. $34.75 million is guaranteed.

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With Matt Ryan signed to a deal that makes JaMarcus Russell's deal look like pocket change, King Arthur has effectively made himself and Matt Ryan marked men. Not only is Ryan now bound to this team, but with this amount of money flowing into his bank account, he has little room for failure. Actually he has no room for failure. Any wrong step and die hard fans would cry for his head.

While it's good and all to pay big money to a hopeful franchise quarterback, the difference between our franchise and those like the Bears, Ravens and any other intelligent organization that needs a quarterback is how they go about building their team. Most teams follow the idea of building a good foundation, and then finding a quarterback that could take the team over the hump and into the Superbowl. Teams like the Chargers, build the defense and lines first, and then obtain a workable quarterback. The Chargers first created a solid defense, a good run-game, and then found a quarterback to fill their need. Though Phillip Rivers isn't that great of a quarterback, the Chargers are still able to win games because of Rivers' supporting cast.

Also, look at the Jaguars. They also constructed a good defense and a good line and then found a quarterback to take them to the championships. They are a perennial winner. Many other teams have also utilized this formula to create a winning team. They understand the fact that a quarterback can only succeed if he is surrounded by good players.

However, here in Atlanta, the organization follows a slightly different formula - King Arthurism. Though King Arthurism may work, it is highly improbable. While other teams start with the supporting cast for the quarterback, King Arthurism starts with the quarterback. The problem with this philosophy is that no matter how good of a quarterback you have, having him play on a team that doesn't have the right pieces is just a free ticket to failure.

Without a good line to block, the quarterback gets pressured, sacked, and loses confidence. Without a running game to rely on, the offense doesn't have anything to fall back on if the passing game is not working. Without a good defense, the quarterback will never get a chance to redeem himself.

When it comes down to it, King Arthurism will likely lead to Matt Ryan's failure. Though Ryan may have immense potential to succeed, he probably will not succeed here in Atlanta, unless the organization plays every card correctly from here on out.

Unlike other teams where a new quarterback comes into a situation with a foundation built already, Matt Ryan has to come to a place where the dust has not even settled from the rubble.

stll bitter? too bad. are you in the detroit lions MB yet?

settle44

ATL75

Vick75

Crump-83

Haynes45

I think Im forgetting a few names here. help me out guys--

[Frank's Red Hot Sauce 1,501]

norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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gritblitzer (5/20/2008)

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Troll.

drews (5/20/2008)

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go away.

Thanks for adding to the discussion.

There is no discussion. There is only you posting your same old negative "Blank can't do anything right" crap. What is there to talk about? You have been on here forever posting this same diatribe for the last year. No one really cares what you have to say, so the best thing to say is:

GO AWAY!

[Frank's Red Hot Sauce 1,501]

There's many things one can discuss about. One can discuss what he or she thinks about King Arthurism. One could also compare and contrast King Arthurism with the philosophy of other organizations.

You would probably get more responses in actual "discussion" form if you didn't CONSTANTLY try to belittle the owner and FO of this franchise. But when you try to be cute, you lose credibility, therefore, making yourself a troll.

[logic 3]

Naw this town will continue to give Money Bag$ a pass.. They have such a low self esteem and can easily be bought. "Oh he's giving away free hotdogs, he's a good guy. The Smith's never handed out free hotdogs!!"

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norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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Falcons agreed to terms with No. 3 pick Matt Ryan. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports it's a six-year deal worth a maximum value of $72 million. $34.75 million is guaranteed.

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However, here in Atlanta, the organization follows a slightly different formula - King Arthurism. Though King Arthurism may work, it is highly improbable. While other teams start with the supporting cast for the quarterback, King Arthurism starts with the quarterback. 

I guess that didn't work too well for Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, or Peyton Manning huh? 

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Does calling him King Arthur mean he'll pull out Excaliber and lop off Smith's head if we don't win?

[londonfalcon 1]

chifalc (5/21/2008)

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londonfalcon (5/21/2008)

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I think that says it all.

It even put an extra letter in!!!!!! :pinch::w00t:

[Shiney_McShine 543]

norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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gritblitzer (5/20/2008)

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Troll.

drews (5/20/2008)

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go away.

Thanks for adding to the discussion.

He's right. If you are unhappy with this topic, or discourse, either don't respond, or respond in a more mature way.

[Falcons Ace 279]

The contract isn't that much bigger than Russell's.

You go on and on about the contract, but you completely forgot about Vick's massive contract and where it left us after he got himself thrown in jail, and his massive rookie contract he got as well. 

The Chargers started with Brees, the Jags started with Leftwich, the Patriots started with Bledsoe, the Colts started with Manning, the 49ers started with Montana, etc. Rarely any team ignores the QB position until everything else is set up.

The Falcons drafted Sam Baker and signed FA Michael Turner. The defense has signed numerous people in various positions, including drafting the best rated inside linebacker in the draft with Curtis Lofton. There is more that goes on besides round 1 in the NFL draft. and off-season

[UCSBDirtyBird 10]

Well Vick 75, I would just like to gloat that your trolling thread didn't even make it to 2 pages yesterday before it fell off the first few pages.  Then you bumped it today and it has barely had 2 more pages.  Looks like you are falling out of your trolling prime.

Why not read the writing on the wall:  You are a troll whose act has gotten old. 

[Wild Bill 271]

norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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Falcons agreed to terms with No. 3 pick Matt Ryan. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports it's a six-year deal worth a maximum value of $72 million. $34.75 million is guaranteed.

- - -

With Matt Ryan signed to a deal that makes JaMarcus Russell's deal look like pocket change, King Arthur has effectively made himself and Matt Ryan marked men. Not only is Ryan now bound to this team, but with this amount of money flowing into his bank account, he has little room for failure. Actually he has no room for failure. Any wrong step and die hard fans would cry for his head.

While it's good and all to pay big money to a hopeful franchise quarterback, the difference between our franchise and those like the Bears, Ravens and any other intelligent organization that needs a quarterback is how they go about building their team. Most teams follow the idea of building a good foundation, and then finding a quarterback that could take the team over the hump and into the Superbowl. Teams like the Chargers, build the defense and lines first, and then obtain a workable quarterback. The Chargers first created a solid defense, a good run-game, and then found a quarterback to fill their need. Though Phillip Rivers isn't that great of a quarterback, the Chargers are still able to win games because of Rivers' supporting cast.

Also, look at the Jaguars. They also constructed a good defense and a good line and then found a quarterback to take them to the championships. They are a perennial winner. Many other teams have also utilized this formula to create a winning team. They understand the fact that a quarterback can only succeed if he is surrounded by good players.

However, here in Atlanta, the organization follows a slightly different formula - King Arthurism. Though King Arthurism may work, it is highly improbable. While other teams start with the supporting cast for the quarterback, King Arthurism starts with the quarterback. The problem with this philosophy is that no matter how good of a quarterback you have, having him play on a team that doesn't have the right pieces is just a free ticket to failure.

Without a good line to block, the quarterback gets pressured, sacked, and loses confidence. Without a running game to rely on, the offense doesn't have anything to fall back on if the passing game is not working. Without a good defense, the quarterback will never get a chance to redeem himself.

When it comes down to it, King Arthurism will likely lead to Matt Ryan's failure. Though Ryan may have immense potential to succeed, he probably will not succeed here in Atlanta, unless the organization plays every card correctly from here on out.

Unlike other teams where a new quarterback comes into a situation with a foundation built already, Matt Ryan has to come to a place where the dust has not even settled from the rubble.

FREAKING

TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :w00t:

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blah blah blah

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Mr. Blank just loves to overpay players don't he?

Mr. Blank overpaid Vick

Mr. Blank overpaid Turner

Mr. Blank overpaid Ryan

Who's next to be overpaid?

m4drox im sort of curios what would you and youre team of armchair gm's done with the team??I am happy as **** that we have a owner that will dish out money for good picks!!vick was a good pick he was just ignorant turner and ryan i think will turn out ALOT BETTER :w00t:

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ucsbdirtybird (5/20/2008)

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welcome back Vick 75, you worthless a**hat

Again, I haven't insulted you guys in any way.

Bring It (5/20/2008)

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I'm sure you impressed someone with your childish comments about Mr. Blank.............YOURSELF.

Your boring, stone age mentality bias is nothing but a pathetic joke.

Sorry to disappoint you.

P.S. Find another team............and start new and exciting criticism of them. Bye bye.

I happen to like the Falcons.

The Falcon Ace (5/20/2008)

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The contract isn't that much bigger than Russell's.

You go on and on about the contract, but you completely forgot about Vick's massive contract and where it left us after he got himself thrown in jail.

The Chargers started with Brees, the Jags started with Leftwich, the Patriots started with Bledsoe, the Colts started with Manning, etc. Rarely any team ignores the QB position until everything else is set up.

The Falcons drafted Sam Baker and signed FA Michael Turner. The defense has signed numerous people in various positions, including drafting the best rated inside linebacker in the draft with Curtis Lofton. There is more that goes on besides round 1 in the NFL draft.

Did Brees lead them anywhere? Did Leftwich? Only when both teams got a good defense and line did they start winning.

cooperbh (5/21/2008)

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Chuck Noll started withthe QB.

Bill Walsh started withthe QB.

Jimmy Johnson started withthe QB.

Bill Polian started withthe QB. Twice.

Sounds like a winning formula to me...

Quarterbacks can't succeed if they don't have the right supporting cast.

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M4DR0X (5/20/2008)

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Mr. Blank just loves to overpay players don't he?

Mr. Blank overpaid Vick

Mr. Blank overpaid Turner

Mr. Blank overpaid Ryan

Who's next to be overpaid?

....and why is it you care?

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fender62 (5/21/2008)

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Apparantly, free market economics escape you. Value is based upon need, the more you need an item, the price paid becomes relative to that need. There is no doubt we needed a franchise QB for the future, so the FO went out and did the hard work of evaluating all available talent to fill that particular need and settled on Matt Ryan as the most capable of fullfilling the task. As far as needing a new marketing tool for the franchise is concerned, personnally I could care less. All I care about is winning games and crushing our division opponents underfoot.

I care about us winning games too. But just finding a QB and not having supporting won't change much.

BirdsOfPrey (5/21/2008)

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norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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gritblitzer (5/20/2008)

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Troll.

drews (5/20/2008)

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go away.

Thanks for adding to the discussion.

There is no discussion. There is only you posting your same old negative "Blank can't do anything right" crap. What is there to talk about? You have been on here forever posting this same diatribe for the last year. No one really cares what you have to say, so the best thing to say is:

GO AWAY!

If King Arthur could do something, wouldn't you think we would have won a Superbowl by now? Or maybe even experienced back to back winning seasons. Oh, and did we already forget who hired Bobby Petrino again? That wasn't King Arthur giving him a contract was it? It must have been someone else, I just forgot.

ucsbdirtybird (5/21/2008)

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Well Vick 75, I would just like to gloat that your trolling thread didn't even make it to 2 pages yesterday before it fell off the first few pages. Then you bumped it today and it has barely had 2 more pages. Looks like you are falling out of your trolling prime.

Why not read the writing on the wall: You are a troll whose act has gotten old.

Ever thought of the fact that I might have signed off and returned later to reply to your posts?

Wild Bill (5/21/2008)

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FREAKING

TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :w00t:

Seems like you found the font editor pretty easily.

[stripedss 306]

What's not true about what thos thread starter has stated???????  It's all true. 

[Falcons Ace 279]

norwood-32 (5/21/2008)

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Did Brees lead them anywhere? Did Leftwich? Only when both teams got a good defense and line did they start winning.

No, that is because Brees was traded out and Leftwich was injury prone. However, Brees did pretty well until everything else could get going, as did the others I mentioned. QBs take time to get fully devoloped, and having them before everything else is set up is a plan that has worked many times over. Contrary to what your OP states.

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The Falcon Ace (5/21/2008)

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norwood-32 (5/21/2008)

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Did Brees lead them anywhere? Did Leftwich? Only when both teams got a good defense and line did they start winning.

No, that is because Brees was traded out and Leftwich was injury prone. However, Brees did pretty well until everything else could get going, as did the others I mentioned. QBs take time to get fully devoloped, and having them before everything else is set up is a plan that has worked many times over. Contrary to what your OP states.

Quarterbacks also fail when the missing pieces are not there. Take Joey Harrington and David Carr for example. Part of the reason they failed was because of a missing offensive line. Now that the Texans have finally started building a foundation, their team is finally improving.

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norwood-32 (5/20/2008)

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Falcons agreed to terms with No. 3 pick Matt Ryan. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports it's a six-year deal worth a maximum value of $72 million. $34.75 million is guaranteed.

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With Matt Ryan signed to a deal that makes JaMarcus Russell's deal look like pocket change, 

You lost me on your first sentence.  It proves you're a mental midget.

[Falcons Ace 279]

norwood-32 (5/21/2008)

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The Falcon Ace (5/21/2008)

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norwood-32 (5/21/2008)

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Did Brees lead them anywhere? Did Leftwich? Only when both teams got a good defense and line did they start winning.

No, that is because Brees was traded out and Leftwich was injury prone. However, Brees did pretty well until everything else could get going, as did the others I mentioned. QBs take time to get fully devoloped, and having them before everything else is set up is a plan that has worked many times over. Contrary to what your OP states.

Quarterbacks also fail when the missing pieces are not there. Take Joey Harrington and David Carr for example. Part of the reason they failed was because of a missing offensive line. Now that the Texans have finally started building a foundation, their team is finally improving.

What about the Colts, Brees, Eli, etc.

Some QBs cannot take the heat, some can. There is no reason you cannot keep them on the bench if you feel the situation will have negative effects on your QB. Peyton took some serious lumps as a rookie, but he turned out fine.