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This is an article currently in ESPN's "Insider" section. Although the chart is hard to figure out, it basically is showing that Redman had the highest number of "Vertical Yards per Attempt" for any quarterback starting in 2007 with 14.4. Not surprising, Harrington was listed in the bottom 10 with only 8.8 Vertical Yards per Attempt.

During the past two weeks of the "best of/worst of" series, we covered the vertical rankings of wide receivers and cornerbacks, so it seems only fitting to follow up with the vertical rankings of quarterbacks.

Glossary of terms

As was the case with the other positions, this metric review measures medium (11-19 yards), deep (20-29 yards) and bomb (30-plus yards) pass attempts on a yards per attempt basis. The qualifying mark was 150 total pass attempts. The yardage totals once again include "pass in the air" penalty attempts and yards (i.e., pass interference, defensive holding, illegal contact, etc.).

Now that we have the rules out of the way, let's take a look at the top 10 vertical quarterbacks from 2007:

Player Team Vert Att Vert Yds Vert YPA

Chris Redman Atlanta 35 505 14.4

Matt Schaub Houston 83 1,139 13.7

Jeff Garcia Tampa Bay 82 1,063 13.0

Brett Favre Green Bay 155 1,983 12.8

Tony Romo Dallas 181 2,216 12.2

Tom Brady New England 187 2,288 12.2

Luke McCown Tampa Bay 28 336 12.0

Daunte Culepper Oakland 56 701 11.9

Peyton Manning Indianapolis 185 2,156 11.7

Donovan McNabb Philadelphia 122 1,387 11.4

Many of the names on this list are ones we all expect to see, but I have to admit to being surprised that Tom Brady not only did not top the list but also barely finished in the top five. I say this not to knock him, but rather to point out that it wasn't all long passes to Randy Moss that shaped Brady's record-setting season.

Chris Redman and Luke McCown are the two most surprising names on this list. They both had very low vertical-attempt totals, which would seem to indicate this being a bit of a fluke. There are reasons to think their superb showings might be the real deal, however.

In McCown's case, I say this because even though he was blessed by having Joey Galloway as his primary vertical threat, eight of his 14 successful vertical plays came on passes thrown to other receivers. Having said that, Jeff Garcia (another person whose place on this list is unexpected) topped McCown's vertical yards-per-attempt average by a yard, doing it on nearly three times as many attempts. It might just be that the Tampa passing game as a whole simply excels on long throws.

In Redman's case, what stands out is his numbers compared to Joey Harrington's numbers. Redman had the same receiving targets, yet was able to put up nearly as many yards (505 to 661) in less than half the number of attempts (35 to 75). Redman also did a fantastic job on the seven vertical passes he threw to Laurent Robinson, with six being successful for a total of 191 yards.

Pat Yasinskas recently wrote in this article that the Falcons should take their time before installing No. 3 pick Matt Ryan as their starter, and these numbers offer even more evidence to back up that assertion.

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sporkdevil (5/18/2008)
Ryan should sit. Redman is solid. No need to start Ryan with a good QB on the roster.

I agree with you mostly.  If Redman tears it up in training camp and pre season, he should definately start and Ryan should sit.

I have a good friend who is a Browns fan.  He constantly tells me that Quinn should start.  Why would you want to start an unproven player(Quinn) when you have one (Anderson) that did extremely well?  Not to mention that the Browns gave Anderson a new contract.

So if Redman does well and Ryan does not than Redman should start.  Now if they both do well then Ryan should start and we trade Redman away in a year or two.

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sporkdevil (5/18/2008)
Ryan should sit. Redman is solid. No need to start Ryan with a good QB on the roster.

I agree.

Keep in mind, though, that Redman didn't leave the league because of performance when he was with the Ravens. It was a back injury that showed him the door. I don't wish any ill on Redman, but the reality is that Ryan may play sooner than we like, if Redman gets hit the wrong way..

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bigduke633 (5/19/2008)
I dont think we can get any real info off 3 starts can we?I dont get compareing redman to qbs who start week inweek out.

The study in the article included all QBs with 150 or more pass attempts. I agree not to over-read the stats, but they are a source of optimism, and I'm looking for any silver lining I can find!

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esmithidoc (5/19/2008)
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David Ethan (5/19/2008)
Chris Redman just might be able to get us a 3rd rounder next year

31 year old 3rd stringers fetching 3rd round picks?

Technically, he is probably a (our) first stringer this year.

Here we go with some redman stats:

Passing

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YearAgeTmPosGGSCmpAttCmp%YdsTDTD%IntInt%LngY/AAY/AY/CY/GRateSkYdsNY/AANY/ASk%
Career171019534756.22190174.9102.9746.35.511.2128.879.5261645.44.77.0
4 yrsBAL10610619853.5111173.552.5365.64.810.5111.171.3171134.63.97.9
1 yrATL748914959.71079106.753.4747.26.412.1154.190.49516.55.75.7
200023BAL202366.71900.000.0126.36.39.59.584.0006.36.30.0
200124BAL0000000000
200225BALqb669718253.3103473.831.6365.75.310.7172.376.111685.04.75.7
200326BAL2071353.85800.0215.4164.5-2.58.329.026.06450.7-4.131.6
200730ATL748914959.71079106.753.4747.26.412.1154.190.49516.55.75.7
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No one will trade for Redman in a year or two. He is 30 now. He didn't play much due to injury with the Ravens and then was out of football before last year. While we may have had a good find (short term) , I don't think he ever would have played again had we not hired Quitrino ( Redman played for him at Louisville and knew the offense, Bobby Q brought him in as #3 to teach the offense to Vick). He will be almost 33 in 2 years. Unless he lights it up while he plays and has monster stats consistently, gets us to the playoffs or even a Super Bowl, the Falcons will be his last stop. Unless someone else picks him up via FA should we let him go. No one in thier right mind will give up a draft pick for him in 2 years, trust me.

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One good thing about Bobby Q was WR's were actually open. It got even better with Hue Jackson. He is going to be a great OC for some team. The WR's got separation for the QB's. Redman wasn't afraid to pull the trigger.

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Just think, Falcons fans may have to still give Petrino some credit under the scrutiny of leaving.  No Petrino, no Redman,  Renardo Foster, or Kurt Quarterman.  One starter (certainly a capable backup) and possibly two (Foster down the road) and a depth player (Quarterman) on the OL.  Experience is the context of thought here.

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Will (5/20/2008)
Just think, Falcons fans may have to still give Petrino some credit under the scrutiny of leaving.  No Petrino, no Redman,  Renardo Foster, or Kurt Quarterman.  One starter (certainly a capable backup) and possibly two (Foster down the road) and a depth player (Quarterman) on the OL.  Experience is the context of thought here.

No.  I will never thank Petirno for anything....

And think about this. If Petrino had never quit.... management would STILL be telling us how good of a job he was doing with the football team.

Don't forget they were doing that right until he quit... then the truth came out...

I hope Petirno gets killed in the SEC and the Razorbacks never get another prospect into the NFL while Petirno is there.

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