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Matt Ryan

Let's begin with the quarterback that many (so called experts) think we should take with the 3rd pick in the upcoming draft. Before this season, Scouts Inc., the ESPN insider draft gurus, said that Matt Ryan was best served as a backup quarterback in the NFL, a player who was intelligent and an on-field leader who the other players respected, but who, at the end of the day, simply lacked the talent and arm strength that is needed in a QB who is a peak performer at the next level. What's changed? One good season in the second weakest conference in the country (Big Ten) and all of the sudden he's supposed to be the first QB taken in the draft? I just don't get it. Perhaps it's a really weak QB class and that's it. But the truth is, he's an overachiever who had a good season passing in a crappy conference and still threw a lot of picks and forces a lot of his throws. I do not want to see him in a Falcons uniform.

So, let me get this straight you literally belittled me when i was trying to support Ryan and you have belittled these people's decisions with your topic here and you think you can get off this easy.  you owe some apoligies or are you capable of being humble and eating crow yourself.

I just said in a previous post, that I reserve the right to change my opinion and I did so WEEKS AGO, what don't you understand? 

Also, please note, that the quotes I've posted are those referring to predictions made by other posters.  The quote of mine you posted WAS NOT a prediction, it was an opinion, which changed a while ago.

I never said things like "the falcons will not draft ryan" or "if dorsey is there, the falcons will trip over themselves when they race to the podium"

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David Ethan (4/27/2008)
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This is only a miniscule sample of the HUNDREDS of "trust me, there is no way he draft Matt Ryan" or "If Glenn Dorsey is on the board, we'll take him" crap that soooo many of you have spewed over the last few weeks.....how little you all know.  You don't pass on a franchise QB when you don't have one, simple as that. 

How can you not be excited to have Ryan?  Have you seen how pumped up he is?  He's said all the right things and deserves our loyalty and patience; we've got ourselves a keeper....

 

 

 

 

 

Frankthetank966

 

I really believe that TD is bluffing about wanting Ryan to force the Rams out of trading the #2 pick to the Ravens, so that Dorsey will 100% be available at #2. I know that there were sources saying the Rams are taking Long but now there are sources saying the Ravens are trying to trade up with the Rams to get Ryan. The only way they can get him is if they get the #2 pick in FRONT of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Atlanta.

I think its a wise move if he is bluffing since Dorsey is better fit on this team. We can definitely get Brohm, Falco or Henne who are a step below Ryan.

 

Red2play

 

Yeah, I do believe we are going to select the most DOMINATING DT for yrs to come.  Dangle out Matt Ryan but pick Dorsey.

 

Rangerrecon

 

Glen Dorsey to ATLANTA, "Let's Roll"

 

Magnus23

 

ESPN "reported" the Rams have settled on long.

This would be barring a trade.

We will take Dorsey unless we trade with the Jets.

I do not believe Ryan is an option.

 

Nick

 

Remember Brian Brohm is the top qb on the falcons board. I think they will trade back in and get him. What did Smith and TD say they were going to do build the lines, I think we will take Dorsey best player available. I hope we dont trade with the jets

 

Mike

 

is that like us this year but we take dorsey instead of ryan and we have a smokescreen out just so the saints dont nab Dorsey

 

LOL at this one, also from Mike:

 

Plus we've have visited Dorsey 3 times Ryan once not including the combine cus everyone is there. The knee injury to Trey Lewis will have us take Dorsey, Plus TD has came out and said they are looking at 2nd tier qb's. You might be against this but if we dont trade up to get Brohm look for Andre Woodson to come here.

 

Magnus 23

 

Trey Lewis is not why we are drafting Dorsey .... the release of Rod Coleman is why we are drafting Dorsey.

 

Red2play

 

Yep, I'd bet that the Falcons draft board looks like this.

1.  Trade down, dangle Matt Ryan - Save TONS of mula and get McKelvin.

2.  Get Glenn Dorsey

3.  Get Sedrick Ellis

4.  Leet time run out

5.  Get Chris Long

6.  Draft Matt Ryan

Gritblitzer

Well if Mort says it then I'm getting ready to welcome Glenn Dorsey to the ATL....

Mort's average is about as good as Andruw Jones'.

M4DROX, I hope you follow through with this one buddy

If the Falcons pass up on Dorsey, I m done with the Falcons

Falconmama

I like Ryan and I'd love to have him, but I dont see us going Ryan if Dorsey's still on the board

 

JBopper

 

Ryan is ok but not at #3.Dorsey is the pick

 

Sivik outkast

 

I wish more people would believe this, trust TD and quit buying into the Ryan thing.  Except for other teams, I do want them to bite the bait.  TD is playing his first draft as GM perfectly so far, as long as he drafts right, it's perfect

 

Carter

 

If Dorsey is there, we take him.  I don't care if someone offers us their entire draft

 

DoubleTrouble21

 

St. Louis is COMPLETELY smoke screening the whole flipping NFL. If they wanted Dorsey BAD, they wouldn't trade down so WE could get him. Just no. Who would do that? No one. Chris Long is their man, Dorsey will be ours. Rest assured.

 

G-Dawg

 

Steve Wyche confirms falcons will select Dorsey& .Steve Wyche is always "the last to know" anything as far as a "scoop" when it comes to the Falcons.

For years, we get the Falcons headlines from Pasquerelli, Mortensen - heck, even Jay Glazer.

Steve Wyche does not know crap - he has no sources within the Falcons organization - he's just "guessing" - just like you and me.......

 

Formul8or

 

If Dorsey makes it to #3 How fast do you think we rush up to announce our pick?  It could be faster than the Dolphins do!

 

Gimmesomo

 

Brohm will not last past mid 1st, trust me on this one!!!!!!!!!

 

the fact that youd rather be right about a petty, trivial argument than have your supposedly favorite team draft the best player available in the draft, the best player available in the draft in a long time, is a typical example of the halfwits on these boards.

every single person on this board should be fuming over the fact that they could have ended up with dorsey, flowers, and brohm to go along with lofton and decoud, the only 2 good picks the falcons made all weekend.

thier draft was pathetic plain and simple. i honestly can not belive how bad it was when they were in position to finally turn thier franchise around and get some talented players to put in thier starting lineup.

i dont think half of you even comprehend how much better the falcons could have gotten on both sides of the ball if they could have drafted the right players and held on to all of thier picks.

check out my topic "they blew it" and look at what they could have ended up with and then tell me they didnt have a horrendous draft.

whqt i dont understand is, even for the people that just wanted to get a new qb to finally end the vick era should be heated right now because brohm could have been thier franchise qb and dorsey could have been thier franchise player.

seriously, how mnay people think dorsey wouldnt have been the best player on the falcons day 1?

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This is only a miniscule sample of the HUNDREDS of "trust me, there is no way he draft Matt Ryan" or "If Glenn Dorsey is on the board, we'll take him" crap that soooo many of you have spewed over the last few weeks.....how little you all know.  You don't pass on a franchise QB when you don't have one, simple as that. 

How can you not be excited to have Ryan?  Have you seen how pumped up he is?  He's said all the right things and deserves our loyalty and patience; we've got ourselves a keeper....

 

 

 

 

 

Frankthetank966

 

I really believe that TD is bluffing about wanting Ryan to force the Rams out of trading the #2 pick to the Ravens, so that Dorsey will 100% be available at #2. I know that there were sources saying the Rams are taking Long but now there are sources saying the Ravens are trying to trade up with the Rams to get Ryan. The only way they can get him is if they get the #2 pick in FRONT of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Atlanta.

I think its a wise move if he is bluffing since Dorsey is better fit on this team. We can definitely get Brohm, Falco or Henne who are a step below Ryan.

 

Red2play

 

Yeah, I do believe we are going to select the most DOMINATING DT for yrs to come.  Dangle out Matt Ryan but pick Dorsey.

 

Rangerrecon

 

Glen Dorsey to ATLANTA, "Let's Roll"

 

Magnus23

 

ESPN "reported" the Rams have settled on long.

This would be barring a trade.

We will take Dorsey unless we trade with the Jets.

I do not believe Ryan is an option.

 

Nick

 

Remember Brian Brohm is the top qb on the falcons board. I think they will trade back in and get him. What did Smith and TD say they were going to do build the lines, I think we will take Dorsey best player available. I hope we dont trade with the jets

 

Mike

 

is that like us this year but we take dorsey instead of ryan and we have a smokescreen out just so the saints dont nab Dorsey

 

LOL at this one, also from Mike:

 

Plus we've have visited Dorsey 3 times Ryan once not including the combine cus everyone is there. The knee injury to Trey Lewis will have us take Dorsey, Plus TD has came out and said they are looking at 2nd tier qb's. You might be against this but if we dont trade up to get Brohm look for Andre Woodson to come here.

 

Magnus 23

 

Trey Lewis is not why we are drafting Dorsey .... the release of Rod Coleman is why we are drafting Dorsey.

 

Red2play

 

Yep, I'd bet that the Falcons draft board looks like this.

1.  Trade down, dangle Matt Ryan - Save TONS of mula and get McKelvin.

2.  Get Glenn Dorsey

3.  Get Sedrick Ellis

4.  Leet time run out

5.  Get Chris Long

6.  Draft Matt Ryan

Gritblitzer

Well if Mort says it then I'm getting ready to welcome Glenn Dorsey to the ATL....

Mort's average is about as good as Andruw Jones'.

M4DROX, I hope you follow through with this one buddy

If the Falcons pass up on Dorsey, I m done with the Falcons

Falconmama

I like Ryan and I'd love to have him, but I dont see us going Ryan if Dorsey's still on the board

 

JBopper

 

Ryan is ok but not at #3.Dorsey is the pick

 

Sivik outkast

 

I wish more people would believe this, trust TD and quit buying into the Ryan thing.  Except for other teams, I do want them to bite the bait.  TD is playing his first draft as GM perfectly so far, as long as he drafts right, it's perfect

 

Carter

 

If Dorsey is there, we take him.  I don't care if someone offers us their entire draft

 

DoubleTrouble21

 

St. Louis is COMPLETELY smoke screening the whole flipping NFL. If they wanted Dorsey BAD, they wouldn't trade down so WE could get him. Just no. Who would do that? No one. Chris Long is their man, Dorsey will be ours. Rest assured.

 

G-Dawg

 

Steve Wyche confirms falcons will select Dorsey& .Steve Wyche is always "the last to know" anything as far as a "scoop" when it comes to the Falcons.

For years, we get the Falcons headlines from Pasquerelli, Mortensen - heck, even Jay Glazer.

Steve Wyche does not know crap - he has no sources within the Falcons organization - he's just "guessing" - just like you and me.......

 

Formul8or

 

If Dorsey makes it to #3 How fast do you think we rush up to announce our pick?  It could be faster than the Dolphins do!

 

Gimmesomo

 

Brohm will not last past mid 1st, trust me on this one!!!!!!!!!

 

the fact that youd rather be right about a petty, trivial argument than have your supposedly favorite team draft the best player available in the draft, the best player available in the draft in a long time, is a typical example of the halfwits on these boards.

every single person on this board should be fuming over the fact that they could have ended up with dorsey, flowers, and brohm to go along with lofton and decoud, the only 2 good picks the falcons made all weekend.

thier draft was pathetic plain and simple. i honestly can not belive how bad it was when they were in position to finally turn thier franchise around and get some talented players to put in thier starting lineup.

i dont think half of you even comprehend how much better the falcons could have gotten on both sides of the ball if they could have drafted the right players and held on to all of thier picks.

check out my topic "they blew it" and look at what they could have ended up with and then tell me they didnt have a horrendous draft.

whqt i dont understand is, even for the people that just wanted to get a new qb to finally end the vick era should be heated right now because brohm could have been thier franchise qb and dorsey could have been thier franchise player.

seriously, how mnay people think dorsey wouldnt have been the best player on the falcons day 1?

 

you're grossly misinformed, biased, naive and ignorant regarding the draft picks we made.  Ryan>Dorsey, just deal with it.  If the FO felt otherwise, Dorsey would be in Atlanta, not Ryan.  And we both know that's not the case

And I'll trust TD and MS before you, sorry

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Matt Ryan

Let's begin with the quarterback that many (so called experts) think we should take with the 3rd pick in the upcoming draft. Before this season, Scouts Inc., the ESPN insider draft gurus, said that Matt Ryan was best served as a backup quarterback in the NFL, a player who was intelligent and an on-field leader who the other players respected, but who, at the end of the day, simply lacked the talent and arm strength that is needed in a QB who is a peak performer at the next level. What's changed? One good season in the second weakest conference in the country (Big Ten) and all of the sudden he's supposed to be the first QB taken in the draft? I just don't get it. Perhaps it's a really weak QB class and that's it. But the truth is, he's an overachiever who had a good season passing in a crappy conference and still threw a lot of picks and forces a lot of his throws. I do not want to see him in a Falcons uniform.

So, let me get this straight you literally belittled me when i was trying to support Ryan and you have belittled these people's decisions with your topic here and you think you can get off this easy.  you owe some apoligies or are you capable of being humble and eating crow yourself.

I'm not poking fun at people who said "Ryan sucks", it's directed at people who ssaid things like "there is no way we draft Ryan" or "Dorsey will definitely be our pick if he's there"

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LMAO.....

U KNOW WHAT?

WE CAN MAKE THE NEXT NFL CHANNEL COMMERCIAL WITH ALL THE WRONG PREDICTIONS,LMAO..

I STILL HEAR THE GUY ON THE COUCH IN THE COMMERCIAL ASKING HIS FRIEND FOR BIG BENS LAST NAME,THEN AS THE COMMERCIAL ENDS HE SAYS,A"NICE TRY COWHER",CLASSIC..

BUT,THIS IS FUNNIER..

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

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I'm not poking fun at people who said "Ryan sucks", it's directed at people who ssaid things like "there is no way we draft Ryan" or "Dorsey will definitely be our pick if he's there"

 

That's what's so funny about this is the same thing you rediculed people for in this topic(getting it wrong) is no different than what you did by changing your mind about Ryan.  I can look back if you want me to and dig another quote of yours where you said (no way would you take Ryan at three it doesn't represent value) if you want me to. But all i am saying is you had it wrong so just admit it.  

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