L Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I Think Redman will be fine intial our new Qb is ready. I like Ryan but im still not sold on him at the 3. Its a funny Article we are the team to mess with this year.Monday, Apr 14, 2008 12:52 pm EDTFalcons entertain the notion that Chris Redman might not suckBy MJDThe Atlanta Falcons have a three-day minicamp scheduled next week, and during that minicamp, they'll need to make a decision about what to do with the third overall draft pick.Matt Ryan, the highest-rated QB in the draft, will most likely be available. And the current Falcons depth chart at quarterback looks like this:1) Chris Redman2) Joey Harrington3) DJ ShockleyGiven that mess, it doesn't seem like taking Matt Ryan at three would be such a bad idea. On top of a young quarterback who projects to be pretty good, you also get a new face for the franchise, and someone who has never been accused of holding a dog's head underwater until it's dead.But clouding the decision is the late-season play of Chris Redman, who finished last season with four games that were not all-together horrible. In four of the last 5 games, Redman had a QB rating over 85.0, and threw 10 touchdowns against just five interceptions.Granted, you can't judge a guy on four games alone, especially when those four games came at the end of a season on a worthless team, when opposing defenses probably spent under 90 seconds considering how they might slow down Chris Redman. But a good game is still a good game, I guess.On the other hand, Redman will be 31 years old when the season starts, he didn't take an NFL snap in 2004, 2005, or 2006, and even spent some time with Austin Wranglers of the Arena Football League. His résumé is not exactly sterling.The fact that the Falcons are even considering the possibility of going into the 2008 season with Chris Redman as a starter is a testament to just how putrid they are. They have so many holes to fill that they actually look at Redman and say, "Yeah, we've got bigger needs than quarterback." That's frightening.And it's even more frightening that they're probably right.Related: Atlanta Falcons, NFL Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I think Chris will be our starter and he will be pretty good at it....definitely not top 5 QB but having a running game again and some Oline man should help him flourish even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 sivik_outkast (4/14/2008)I think Chris will be our starter and he will be pretty good at it....definitely not top 5 QB but having a running game again and some Oline man should help him flourish even more.He's a 2-yr. stop-gap at most.BTW, LMAO at your sig! THat's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Yea, I just had the idea like 3mins ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I dont think Redman is the future for this franchise but he is the present, hope he does well and opens up opportunitys for when he leaves Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 SO.............WHO ARE THESE MAGGOTS TO DECIDE THE LEVEL OF ANY PLAYER, LET ALONE CHRIS REDMAN ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfalcon47 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Bring It (4/14/2008)SO.............WHO ARE THESE MAGGOTS TO DECIDE THE LEVEL OF ANY PLAYER, LET ALONE CHRIS REDMAN ??????????????what was that for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 canadianfalcon47 (4/14/2008)Bring It (4/14/2008)SO.............WHO ARE THESE MAGGOTS TO DECIDE THE LEVEL OF ANY PLAYER, LET ALONE CHRIS REDMAN ??????????????what was that for?I have no idea.........I was referring to someone else..........forgive the post ??Sorry........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attaway2 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Give Redman a chance before wasting a top 3 pick on tired a.. Ryan.He played in the very weak ACC and threw 19 interceptions.Of course there is about 10 backups that are better than Harrington.Why not sign J. Lorenzen from the Giants if we are counting on Harrington.Shockley should be given a chance but with the fair weather fans around here he will never see the field.Go Redman,show something in this 3 day camp and save us all from Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Freddie Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Redman is not the best QB, just the best the Falcons have at the moment. I don't think Redman has really been tested on the field. Yes, his performances in last season's Cardinals and Seahawks games were encouraging, but the Cardinals had one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and the Seahawks (let us be honest) were playing at half speed during most of the last game of the season.The Falcons need the "Quarterback of the Future." In my august opinion, I believe Brian Brohm is the best QB in the 2008 draft and should be acquired by the Falcons, even with the #3 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocktailcove Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Bring It (4/14/2008)SO.............WHO ARE THESE MAGGOTS TO DECIDE THE LEVEL OF ANY PLAYER, LET ALONE CHRIS REDMAN ????????Quik on the draw huh?Your the most rootin, tootin ombrey this side of the pacos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Bring It (4/14/2008)canadianfalcon47 (4/14/2008)Bring It (4/14/2008)SO.............WHO ARE THESE MAGGOTS TO DECIDE THE LEVEL OF ANY PLAYER, LET ALONE CHRIS REDMAN ??????????????what was that for?I have no idea.........I was referring to someone else..........forgive the post ??Sorry........WOW ...... WHOEVER YOU WERE REFERRING TO .... YOU GOT THE MESSAGE ACROSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Redman was unfortunate to have a severe injury while with the Ravens. It took him 4-5 years to totally recover. He attempted to come back with New England but was cut, probably because his shoulder was not totally ready and had difficulty making certain throws as a result. Last season, his shoulder held up. He played great. He had a nice long ball and was very accurate at all ranges. In comparing Redman to the cast coming out of college....Redman's college stats blow away both Brohm and Ryan. If Redman was coming out of college today with the same stats, he would be projected in the top 3 QB's. He was going to be the Ravens future until having injury problems. He started 6 games with the Ravens, going 3 - 3. If Redman is truly back to form, we may have a very good QB that can play for the next 7 years. I would hate to use our 3rd pick on Ryan and then have Redman playing like Anderson did last year for the Browns. I feel that it would then be a waste of a 3rd pick. Yes, it is a gamble...but going on his past experience from college, Ravens, and last year....I think it is a good risk. Let's build our defense and O-Line....but if Johnson is still available in the 3rd or 4th, I think that would be a worthy draft risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 rodney51 (4/14/2008)Redman was unfortunate to have a severe injury while with the Ravens. It took him 4-5 years to totally recover. He attempted to come back with New England but was cut, probably because his shoulder was not totally ready and had difficulty making certain throws as a result. Last season, his shoulder held up. He played great. He had a nice long ball and was very accurate at all ranges. In comparing Redman to the cast coming out of college....Redman's college stats blow away both Brohm and Ryan. If Redman was coming out of college today with the same stats, he would be projected in the top 3 QB's. He was going to be the Ravens future until having injury problems. He started 6 games with the Ravens, going 3 - 3. If Redman is truly back to form, we may have a very good QB that can play for the next 7 years. I would hate to use our 3rd pick on Ryan and then have Redman playing like Anderson did last year for the Browns. I feel that it would then be a waste of a 3rd pick. Yes, it is a gamble...but going on his past experience from college, Ravens, and last year....I think it is a good risk. Let's build our defense and O-Line....but if Johnson is still available in the 3rd or 4th, I think that would be a worthy draft risk.You talk about not gambling but you wanna draft Johnson? :blink: That is gambling. He's a project at best. And no, we need to draft a QB whether you like it or not this year.Redman is a caretaker QB who will only win us so many games. We need a franchise guy that can win us games and who we can win consistently with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryne O'Brien Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 i think with help from an offensive line redman can be good. he can atleast manage the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Matthew Pritts (4/14/2008)rodney51 (4/14/2008)Redman was unfortunate to have a severe injury while with the Ravens. It took him 4-5 years to totally recover. He attempted to come back with New England but was cut, probably because his shoulder was not totally ready and had difficulty making certain throws as a result. Last season, his shoulder held up. He played great. He had a nice long ball and was very accurate at all ranges. In comparing Redman to the cast coming out of college....Redman's college stats blow away both Brohm and Ryan. If Redman was coming out of college today with the same stats, he would be projected in the top 3 QB's. He was going to be the Ravens future until having injury problems. He started 6 games with the Ravens, going 3 - 3. If Redman is truly back to form, we may have a very good QB that can play for the next 7 years. I would hate to use our 3rd pick on Ryan and then have Redman playing like Anderson did last year for the Browns. I feel that it would then be a waste of a 3rd pick. Yes, it is a gamble...but going on his past experience from college, Ravens, and last year....I think it is a good risk. Let's build our defense and O-Line....but if Johnson is still available in the 3rd or 4th, I think that would be a worthy draft risk.You talk about not gambling but you wanna draft Johnson? :blink: That is gambling. He's a project at best. And no, we need to draft a QB whether you like it or not this year.Redman is a caretaker QB who will only win us so many games. We need a franchise guy that can win us games and who we can win consistently with.JJ will not require that much work. He played under the tutor of Jim Harbaugh. He started 3 years in college and was a pass first QB. According to scouting reports, his only flaws are putting too much zip on his short passes. He also needs to bulk up some. Coming from a small college does not worry me too much. Kurt Warner, Culpepper, Romo, Big Ben, McNair, Garcia, and many more played for smaller schools. As a sophomore in 2005, he burst on to the scene throwing for 3,256 yards while completing over 70% of his passes for 36 touchdowns and eight interceptions. As a junior, Johnson threw for 3,320 yards with a 66.3 completion percentage for 34 touchdowns and just five interceptions. He became a three time all american as a senior, throwing for 2,988 yards while completing 68.4% of his passes with an amazing ratio of 43 touchdowns to just one interception. I think gambling from the 3rd round and later is ok....but let's build the defense and O-Line with our early picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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