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if Dorsey and J Long are gone at 3. What would prevent us from taking Ellis?

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CAREER: He has 28.5 tackles for a loss and 17.5 sacks in his career.

2007: Ellis, a 2-time All-American first teamer, started for his third season at nose tackle as a senior in 2007 and was as dominant as ever. Overall in 2007 while starting all 13 games, he has 58 tackles, including 12.5 for losses of 75 yards (with 8.5 sacks for minus 67 yards), plus 7 deflections, 2 fumble recoveries and 1 forced fumble. He was 1 of 15 semifinalists for the 2007 Bednarik Award and 1 of 8 semifinalists for the 2007 Lott Trophy. He was named to the 2007 AP (unanimous), Football Coaches, Football Writers, Walter Camp, The Sporting News, ESPN.com, SI.com, Collegefootballnews.com and Pro Football Weekly All-American first teams and Phil Steele's All-American second team. He was named the 2007 Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year (USC's fifth such selection) and Pac-10 Morris Trophy winner (for the second year in a row), he was a unanimous choice on the 2007 All-Pac-10 first team and he made the ESPN.com All-Pac-10 first team, Collegefootballnews.com All-Pac-10 first team (he was its Pac-10 Player of the Year), Rivals.com All-Pac-10 first team and Phil Steele's All-Pac-10 first team. He was USC's Co-MVP and also won USC's Co-Defensive Lineman of the Year Award and Co-Lifter of the Year Award. He was a Senior Bowl invitee.

He had 4 tackles (including 1 for a loss) and 2 deflections versus Idaho, then 5 tackles, including a sack, and 2 deflections at Nebraska. He had a tackle (0.5 for a loss) against Washington State, 4 stops at Washington and then had 3 sacks among his 6 tackles versus Stanford. He had 2 tackles, recovered a fumble (to set up a USC field goal) and had a deflection against Arizona, 5 stops (1.5 sacks) at Notre Dame and 12 tackles, including 2 for a loss (with a sack), at Oregon. He had 3 tackles, including 1.5 for a loss (with a sack), and a deflection against Oregon State, 6 tackles at California, 4 stops (2 for a loss, with a sack) at Arizona State and 4 tackles and a fumble recovery against UCLA. He had 2 tackles and a deflection against Illinois.

2006: Ellis was impressive once again while starting for the second year at nose tackle as a junior in 2006. Overall in 2006 while starting 10 games, he had 34 tackles, including 8 for losses of 47 yards (with 4.5 sacks for minus 37 yards), plus 2 fumble recoveries, 1 forced fumble, a blocked field goal (at Stanford that USC returned for a touchdown) and 3 deflections. He tore cartilage in his right knee prior to the Nebraska game and had arthroscopic surgery, sidelining him for 3 games (Nebraska, Arizona, Washington State). He made the 2006 Collegefootballnews.com All-American first team, All-Pac-10 first team, ESPN.com All-Pac-10 first team, Rivals.com All-Pac-10 first team and Scout.com All-Pac-10 second team. He won the 2006 Pac-10 Morris Trophy (for the league's top defensive lineman, as voted by the league's offensive linemen).

He had 3 tackles (with a sack) and a forced fumble at Arkansas, then returned from a 3-game hiatus because of the knee injury and had 5 tackles against Washington. He made 5 tackles, including 2 for a loss (with 0.5 sack), versus Arizona State, another 5 tackles, including 2 for losses (with a sack), at Oregon State and a tackle and the blocked field goal at Stanford. He added a tackle against Oregon, 4 tackles, a fumble recovery and a deflection against California, 2 tackles against Notre Dame and 2 more tackles, a fumble recovery and a deflection at UCLA. He had 6 tackles, including 2 for losses (with a sack), and a deflection against Michigan.

2005: After an eye-opening showing in 2005 spring practice, Ellis earned the starting nose tackle spot as a sophomore in 2005 and didn't disappoint. Overall in 2005 while starting all 13 games, he made 50 tackles, including 8 for losses of 36 yards (with 4.5 sacks for minus 26 yards), plus 3 deflections and 1 forced fumble. He had 9 tackles (with a sack) at Notre Dame, 7 tackles (1.5 for a loss, with a sack) versus UCLA, 6 stops (with a sack) at Washington, 4 tackles against Arkansas (1 for a loss) and Oregon (2.5 for losses), and 3 stops versus Arizona State (with a sack), Washington State, Stanford, Fresno State and Texas. He made 2005 All-Pac-10 honorable mention.

2004: Ellis backed up Mike Patterson at defensive tackle as a redshirt freshman in 2004. Overall in 2004 while appearing in 11 games (all but Virginia Tech and Notre Dame), he made 2 tackles (1 each against Arizona State and Oregon State).

2003: Ellis redshirted as a freshman defensive tackle in 2003, his first year at USC. He suffered a left ankle fracture in 2003 fall practice, played briefly against BYU and then had midseason surgery, forcing him to miss the rest of the 2003 season (he was allowed to redshirt because of the early injury).

HIGH SCHOOL: He was named a 2002 Super Prep All-American, Prep Star All-American, Super Prep Elite 50, Prep Star Top 100 Dream Team, The Sporting News Hot 100, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tom Lemming All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best in the West first team, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100, Orange County Register Fab 15 first team, Cal-Hi Sports All-State first team, All-CIF Southern Section first team, All-CIF Division II first team, Los Angeles Times All-Star Lineman MVP and Los Angeles Times All-Inland Empire Lineman MVP selection as a senior offensive and defensive lineman at Chino (Calif.) High. He posted 122 tackles (35 solo), including 19 for losses (with 6.5 sacks), plus 1 blocked punt, 1 forced fumble and 2 fumble recoveries in 2002.

I know there is an SEC bias here and all the scouts have Dorsey above Ellis, but why? Is his technique poor? From what I see he is about the same height and weight as Dorsey, but he is much leaner. Dorsey is kinda chunky, whereas Ellis is somewhat lean with much more room for weight gain in the years to come. His forty was just under 5 seconds (faster than dorsey) and he hit 225 9 more times than Glenn. Just curious what people think of this guy.

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I wouldn't mind Ellis at 3 BUT only after trying for 14:30 to trade down

IMHO the perfect situation for the Falcons would be if both J. Long and Gholston are on the board when we pick at 3. Trade down to 5 w/ KC they want J.Long pick up a second, then trade out of 5 with either the Jets or Pats for Gholston, and pick up a second from the Jets or a first next year from the Pats. then at the number 6 or 7 we can select either Ryan, Brohm, Clady, Ellis

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charlestonchad (4/6/2008)
The jets and raiders both want McFadden, so I think one will be willing to trade up to get him.

"If" both J. Long and Dorsey are off the board I would definately try to trade down with the Jets, no lower however. Ellis would be the target regardless given this scenario trade down or not. With DMac and Chris available I'm sure some team would want to move up. Oakland, btw, is in no position to move up.

J. Long, Dorsey or Ellis needs to be our pick imo. We have no need for a DE......yet.

If the Jets want DMac it would seem he is theirs for the taking if a deal can be worked out with Atlanta. Trades near the top are rare however.

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I think we take Ellis with the #3 pick if J. Long and Dorsey are gone and not look back.  He's easily worth our #3 IMHO.  Sure, we can gamble on trading for a #5-#7 pick, but when you have a guy of Ellis' caliber land to you in our spot and how bad he is needed on our "D", I say you grab him.  I've said time and again, we should go into the #3 pick targeting one of three players:  J. Long/Dorsey/Ellis and have a 100 percent chance of landing either one and not look back.

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