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I've been following the NFL draft since the late 70s and over the years, I have seen the very best evaluators make mistakes on QBs.

It seems to be the most difficult position to evaluate or project. There are so many factors that determine the success of a QB in this league. I have seen countless "can't miss prospects" flop. We all know of some of the Hall of Famers who were drafted much too low. Brady could be one of the best ever, and yet every team in the NFL misjudged his talent and passed on him round after round.

I do not envy TD. If he makes the right decision, he could dramatically change the franchise for years into the future. If he miscalculates, it could take many years to recover.

I don't pretend to know who we should pick. I like the guys with big guns (like Flacco), but sometimes these guys work out and sometimes they don't.

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drpepper (4/4/2008)
I've been following the NFL draft since the late 70s and over the years, I have seen the very best evaluators make mistakes on QBs.

It seems to be the most difficult position to evaluate or project. There are so many factors that determine the success of a QB in this league. I have seen countless "can't miss prospects" flop. We all know of some of the Hall of Famers who were drafted much too low. Brady could be one of the best ever, and yet every team in the NFL misjudged his talent and passed on him round after round.

I do not envy TD. If he makes the right decision, he could dramatically change the franchise for years into the future. If he miscalculates, it could take many years to recover.

I don't pretend to know who we should pick. I like the guys with big guns (like Flacco), but sometimes these guys work out and sometimes they don't.

Same here. Unfortunatly over the years Pro Football Weekly and the Sporting News are exceptional rags for any thread of truth.  It's almost like they are on a continual Twilight Zone backwards day.  You tend to want to believe the opposite.

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wow henne is the 2nd rated QB in the draft!!!!! "they say he has very good arm strength'

they say brohm has "Ok ARM STRENGTH"

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Positives: Very experienced and has a good understanding of the game. Good football intelligence has played in multiple offenses and has shown he can handle checks and audibles. Very determined with great work habits. Stands in the pocket, keeps his shoulders squared and has shown he can read the field and work through progressions. Sees the field well and can hasten his delivery when needed. Can throw with touch and take pace off the ball. Plays with awareness. Very quietly competitive.

Negatives: Average athlete struggles to sidestep the rush and consequently has been injured frequently throughout his career. Arm strength is just OK has to really wind up to chuck it deep. Throws with little hip snap, power or velocity. Has short arms, tends to drop the ball and has a low release point that has resulted in too many batted balls. Inconsistent ball placement, especially when he is forced to move in the pocket. Is not a vocal, commanding or engaging leader.

WOW these ppl are dumber then dumb and dumber

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5. QB Andre Woodson

(6-4, 229, 4.88) Kentucky

Notes: Grew up in a military family and consequently lived in Germany and Hawaii. Also lettered in basketball and track as a prep. Redshirted in 2003. Started 1-of-7 games in which he played in 04, completing 54-of-88 passes (61.4 percent) for 492 yards, two touchdowns and one interception. Started all 11 games in 05, tossing 146-253-1,644-6-6 (57.7). Started all 13 games in 06 and completed 264-419-3,515-31-7 (63.0). Was voted Most Valuable Player by his teammates. Started all 13 games in 07, amassing 327-518-3,709-40-11 (63.1) and led the Southeastern Conference in completions, yards and touchdowns. Set the school and conference single-season records for touchdown passes. Set the school career mark for TD passes (79) and the conference career record for interception ratio (only two percent of his pass attempts were intercepted). Also set the NCAA record for consecutive completions without an interception (325).

Positives: Has terrific size. Can flick the ball downfield easily. Has good arm strength with a fluid stroke and delivery and spins a very tight spiral. Very good touch. Can zip it long distances on a rope. Improving decision-maker. Is very calm and collected and has shown the ability to keep his poise under pressure and rally his team from big deficits, as he showed he could do vs. Louisville and LSU.

Negatives: Has a tendency to bird-dog his primary target and is late to locate open receivers. Has a long, exaggerated release with a hitch at the top, where he drops the ball down to throw. Holds on to the ball too long and takes unneccesary sacks. Needs to do a better job securing the ball. Will force the ball into coverage. Requires space to throw and too often aims the ball. Average athletic ability and marginal foot quickness to buy time with his feet. Looks to the sideline for audibles and will take some time to grasp an offense. Takes time to build a rhythm. Not a vocal leader.

Summary: Will take time to absorb an offense and need time to be groomed. Long delivery will always allow defenders to prey on his passes. Began to make strides when the offense was overly simplified, but lack of escapability and long delivery will always handcuff an offense. Will require significant patience, and his long-term success will hinge on his ability to absorb a playbook.

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sivik_outkast (4/3/2008)
What is it with Ryan?  I just don't get it.  Is he gay and easy or something?  Seems like he's giving some sort of FAVORS out to all the sports writers or something.  GEEZ

Well, I hope all of those idiots enjoy eating crow, this guy is the second coming of Ryan Leaf.

Yeah. That's it. Matt Ryan is gay and easy. That's why everyone associated with professional football has him as the consensus number 1 QB in this draft.

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iDash (4/4/2008)
5. QB Andre Woodson

(6-4, 229, 4.88) Kentucky

Notes: Grew up in a military family and consequently lived in Germany and Hawaii. Also lettered in basketball and track as a prep. Redshirted in 2003. Started 1-of-7 games in which he played in 04, completing 54-of-88 passes (61.4 percent) for 492 yards, two touchdowns and one interception. Started all 11 games in 05, tossing 146-253-1,644-6-6 (57.7). Started all 13 games in 06 and completed 264-419-3,515-31-7 (63.0). Was voted Most Valuable Player by his teammates. Started all 13 games in 07, amassing 327-518-3,709-40-11 (63.1) and led the Southeastern Conference in completions, yards and touchdowns. Set the school and conference single-season records for touchdown passes. Set the school career mark for TD passes (79) and the conference career record for interception ratio (only two percent of his pass attempts were intercepted). Also set the NCAA record for consecutive completions without an interception (325).

Positives: Has terrific size. Can flick the ball downfield easily. Has good arm strength with a fluid stroke and delivery and spins a very tight spiral. Very good touch. Can zip it long distances on a rope. Improving decision-maker. Is very calm and collected and has shown the ability to keep his poise under pressure and rally his team from big deficits, as he showed he could do vs. Louisville and LSU.

Negatives: Has a tendency to bird-dog his primary target and is late to locate open receivers. Has a long, exaggerated release with a hitch at the top, where he drops the ball down to throw. Holds on to the ball too long and takes unneccesary sacks. Needs to do a better job securing the ball. Will force the ball into coverage. Requires space to throw and too often aims the ball. Average athletic ability and marginal foot quickness to buy time with his feet. Looks to the sideline for audibles and will take some time to grasp an offense. Takes time to build a rhythm. Not a vocal leader.

Summary: Will take time to absorb an offense and need time to be groomed. Long delivery will always allow defenders to prey on his passes. Began to make strides when the offense was overly simplified, but lack of escapability and long delivery will always handcuff an offense. Will require significant patience, and his long-term success will hinge on his ability to absorb a playbook.

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Ryan and Henne the best two QBs?

Yeah right!

The Leftwich/Woodson comparisons are tiresome.

One can't put touch on the football or stay healthy nor did he play any real competition in college.

The other set records in the toughest conference in college football, was never hurt, and is capable of making every throw on the football field with precision. Oh and he doesn't bring the ball all the way down to his hip to deliver it and has recently tweaked his delivery to make it even shorter.

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Very good post, the only problem is that all of self proclaimed experts on this board won't agree that Qb position is our #1 need and that just maybe all scouts, networks, analysts are right about Ryan. No everybody has there minds made up, the football experts are wrong and message board experts are right.

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busboyisback (4/4/2008)
Ryan and Henne the best two QBs?

Yeah right!

The Leftwich/Woodson comparisons are tiresome.

One can't put touch on the football or stay healthy nor did he play any real competition in college.

The other set records in the toughest conference in college football, was never hurt, and is capable of making every throw on the football field with precision. Oh and he doesn't bring the ball all the way down to his hip to deliver it and has recently tweaked his delivery to make it even shorter.

Just b/c he plays in the SEC doesn't mean he's gonna be an all-pro.

If that was the case Tim Couch and Danny Wuerffel would of been all-pros b/c they set records in the SEC , too.

And yes, he is just like Leftwich and turns into a Nancy when he's pressured.

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Regarding Woodson:

"Will take time to absorb an offense..... and his long-term success will hinge on his ability to absorb a playbook."

Paraphrased:  questionable intellect and decisiveness, and didn't we just go through this with YKW?

Sorry, but the NFL QB's who are winning Super Bowls have no one questioning their ability to "absorb an offense" or "absorb a playbook"!

 

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