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I am leaning more towards Flacco. But here is the breakdown

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Joe Flacco (QB)

Height: 6'7"

Weight: 236

College: Delaware

Conference: Colonial

Hometown: Audubon, NJ

High School: Audobon

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After two years of relative inactivity behind Tyler Palko at the University of Pittsburgh, Joe Flacco decided to leave the Panthers' program.

He was not eligible to play during the 2005 season under NCAA transfer rules -- the Panthers had refused to release him from his scholarship.

Flacco had a decent junior season for Delaware, getting acclimated to his new teammates and offense. He followed that up with a stellar senior campaign, as the Fightin' Blue Hens fell just one game short of capturing the NCAA Championship Subdivision title in a tough loss to Appalachian State.

At Audubon High School, Flacco was a two-time New Jersey All-Group II, All-South Jersey and All-Colonial Conference first-team selection. He was named the Colonial Conference Athlete of the Year and South Jersey Touchdown Club Offensive Back of the Year as a senior. He was also a South Jersey Touchdown Club first-team All-Academic, Courier Post Scholar Athlete of the Year and Brooks-Irvine Offensive Scholar-Athlete of the Year.

He received Super Prep All-Northeast honors and was rated the 33rd-best prospect in New Jersey by that recruiting service. Flacco was rated one of the nation's top 40 "pro-style" quarterbacks by Rivals100.com and earned Prep Star All-East Region accolades.

Flacco was a three-year starter at quarterback, throwing for 5,137 career yards, including 2,020 as a senior. His career passing yardage total ranked fourth in South Jersey history and he also set a single-game South Jersey record with 471 passing yards. He earned three letters in football and baseball, and two in basketball. He led the baseball team to the state title and was also a member of the Principal's Honor Roll.

Flacco enrolled at Pittsburgh in 2003, spending the season on the scout team. He saw brief action in three games in 2004, as he hit on just 1-of-4 passes for 11 yards, rushed six times for zero yards and punted once for 25 yards. He left the school after the 2004 campaign, but because he was not released from his scholarship, he was forced to sit out the 2005 season.

In 2006, Flacco started 11 games at Delaware. He earned Blue Hen Touchdown Club Offensive Player of the Week honors three times, as he connected on, 264-of-417 passes (63.3%) for 2,783 yards, 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He scored five times and gained 54 yards on 83 carries (0.7-yard average), but was sacked 23 times and turned the ball over four times on eight fumbles. At 6-foot-6, Flacco was the tallest quarterback in school history (Scott Brunner, 1978-79, was 6-foot-5).

Flacco earned All-American, All-East, All-ECAC and All-Colonial Athletic Association honors as a senior in 2007. He added ECAC Player of the Year and CAA Co-Offensive Player of the Year accolades and was also a member of the league's Academic Honor Roll. He set school records completing 331 passes for 4,263 yards on 521 attempts (63.5%) with 23 touchdowns and just five interceptions. He ranked sixth in the nation with an average of 460.6 yards per game in total offense, as he scored four times of 64 carries (0.3-yard average) and fumbled just twice.

Flacco started all 26 games he played in for Delaware. In just two seasons, he holds the school record with 595 pass completions on 938 attempts (63.4%), ranking second all-time with 7,046 aerial yards. He threw for 41 touchdowns and had 15 interceptions, as he was sacked 48 times for minus-311 yards and turned the ball over four times on ten fumbles. He rushed 147 times for 76 yards (9.5-yard average) and nine scores, amassing 7,112 yards in total offense, an average of 273.54 yards per game.

Chad Henne (QB)

Height: 6'2"

Weight: 225

College: Michigan

Conference: Big 10

Hometown: Wyomissing,, PA

High School: Wilson

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Chad Henne served as the engineer for a team that relied heavily on its ground game over the years, but he's a classic pocket passer with a big arm. With his quick setup and arm strength, he gave the Wolverines an added weapon in their offensive arsenal.

In 47 games -- all starts -- at Michigan, Henne set the Wolverines' career marks with 828 completions of 1,387 pass attempts for 9,715 yards, 87 touchdowns and 37 interceptions, in addition to setting records with 1,567 plays participated in for 9,400 yards in total offense. Henne also produced 26 200-yard passing performances, the second-best total in UM history.

Henne was a highly-decorated passer at Wilson High School. He was rated the seventh-best player in the country and third-ranked quarterback by Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report (also rated third in the nation at QB by Prep Star). Rivals.com rated him the third-best quarterback in the nation and the state of Pennsylvania's second-ranked prep player, receiving a five-star rating. He was also ranked third nationally at quarterback by Super Prep and second by Collegefootballnews.com and MaxEmfingerRecruiting.com (also received a five-star rating from Max Emfinger).

Henne was named one of the Adidas Fab 50 National Playmakers in 2003 and rated the best quarterback in the nation by The G&W Recruiting Report. He earned All-American honors from that recruiting service, receiving the same accolades from Parade. He played in the 2004 U.S. Army All-American Game and competed in the Big 33 All-Star Classic. He was named Gatorade Player of the Year award for the state of Pennsylvania and was the recipient of the Wilson Most Valuable Offensive Player Award as a senior.

In addition, Henne added first-team All-State honors from the Associated Press and was a three-time first-team All-Berks County selection, adding All-Berks/Lancaster Lebanon Offensive Back of the Year honors as a junior and senior. He earned second-team All-State honors as a junior and first-team All-Berks County and all-league honorable mention as a freshman.

Henne set the Pennsylvania District III all-time passing and touchdown records (7,071 yards and 74 touchdowns), as he completed 147-of-249 passes for 1,743 yards and 19 scores his senior season, when he also rushed for 450 yards and five scores. He threw for more than 4,000 yards in his sophomore and junior seasons alone, completing 64.4% of his passes for 2,088 yards, 23 touchdowns and three interceptions (two came on deflections) while rushing for over 600 yards and six touchdowns as a junior.

As a sophomore, Henne passed for 1,405 yards and 16 touchdowns and completed 53.4% of his throws for 1,835 yards and 16 touchdowns as a freshman. He also competed in track and was timed in 100-meters at 11.2. He threw the javelin a career-best 195.5 feet. He was a two-year starter on the basketball team, averaging eight points and eight rebounds per game as a senior.

Henne enrolled at Michigan in 2004 and quickly took over quarterback duties, starting all 12 games. He received the U-M Athletic Academic Achievement Award and was an All-Big Ten Conference honorable mention by the league's coaches and media. He added Freshman All-American accolades from Scripps/Football Writers Association, Rivals.com and The Sporting News Freshman All-America first team.

He finished the year as the top true freshman quarterback statistically in Michigan and Big Ten history, connecting on 240-of-399 passes (60.2%) for 2,743 yards and 25 touchdowns, ranking third on the school's single-season list for attempts, completions and yards. He also tied the school record for most touchdown passes in a season (25 shared by Elvis Grbac in 1991) and ran for two more scores.

In 2005, Henne again started all 12 games. He completed 223-of-382 passes (58.4%) for 2,526 yards with 23 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He ranks fourth in Michigan history in touchdown passes in a season, fourth in completions, fifth in attempts and seventh in passing yards. He tossed at least one touchdown pass in 11 of the 12 games and threw for at least 200 yards in seven contests.

As a junior, Henne earned Rivals.com All-American third-team honors. He was a Manning Award finalist, Maxwell Award semifinalist, Davey O'Brien Award semifinalist and Walter Camp Award candidate. The All-Big Ten Conference second-team choice started all thirteen games. He hit on 203-of-328 passes (61.9%) for 2,508 yards and 22 touchdowns with eight interceptions, ranking fifth in U-M's season record list for touchdown passes, eighth in attempts and completions and tenth in passing yards.

Henne's hopes for Heisman Trophy consideration in 2007 were quickly dashed in the team's loss to Appalachian State in the '07 opener. The preseason All-Big Ten Conference pick later suffered a lower leg and right knee injury that would sideline him for the second half of the team's Week Two game vs. Oregon and forced him to sit out the Notre Dame and Penn State games. When he returned, his mobility was negated due to lingering issues with his knee, in addition to suffering a shoulder separation vs. Illinois and an ankle sprain vs. Michigan State. He finished with 1,938 yards on 162-of-278 attempts (58.3%) with 17 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He lost 120 yards on 24 carries, finishing his final campaign with 1,818 yards in total offense.

Henne started all 47 games in which he played at Michigan. He completed 828-of-1,387 passes (59.7%) for 9,715 yards, 87 touchdowns and 37 interceptions. Of his pass completions, 118 were for at least 20 yards, but he also had 159 of his pass attempts deflected by the opposition (196 passes defended total). He rushed 180 times for losses of 315 yards (minus-1.8-yard average) and three scores. He posted five solo tackles and participated in 1,567 offensive plays, amassing 9,400 yards in total offense. The Michigan passer turned the ball over eight times on 20 fumbles and was sacked 89 times for losses totaling 588 yards.

Brian Brohm (QB)

Height: 6'3"

Weight: 227

College: Louisville

Conference: Big East

Hometown: Louisville, KY

High School: Trinity

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The Brohm family has a long, storied history at Louisville, dating to the 1968 and '69 seasons, when Oscar Brohm lettered for the Cardinals. Years later, his son, Greg (1989-92) put on a Louisville uniform and start for three seasons at wide receiver, catching 45 passes for 722 yards and three scores for former head coach Howard Schnellenberger. Greg Brohm returned to the university in 2006, taking over as the team's Director of Football Operations.

His brother Jeff (1990, 92-93), who would go on to start at quarterback for the Cardinals in his three seasons as a letterman, ranks among U of L's all-time leaders for passing yards (seventh, 5,451), touchdown passes (fifth, 38), completions (eighth, 402), total offense (sixth, 6,430) and completion percentage (sixth, .562). Voted the Cards' MVP in 1992 and '93, Jeff Brohm will always be remembered for a gritty performance in leading U of L to an 18-7 victory over Michigan State in the 1993 Liberty Bowl, when he played with pins in his hand. He enjoyed a seven-year career in the NFL, starting in 1994 with the San Diego Chargers. He also played for the San Francisco 49ers from 1995-1997 and was the backup quarterback to Steve Young in 1997. From 1998-2000, he played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Denver Broncos, and Cleveland Browns. In 2001, he played in the XFL for the Orlando Rage and was named first-team All-XFL as he owned the league's highest QB rating at 99.9.

Jeff Brohm served as an assistant coach the last four seasons at UL. In addition to coaching quarterbacks, he was elevated to assistant head coach and passing game coordinator in 2007.

In his four years with the Cardinals, he tutored two-time first-team All-Conference USA and Co-Offensive Player of the Year Stefan LeFors and the Big East Conference Offensive Player of the Year, Brian Brohm, the youngest brother of the fourth-year coach.

Brian Brohm started 33 games at Louisville. He closed out his career as the Big East Conference's all-time leader in passing yardage, becoming the first player in league history to throw for over 10,000 yards (10,775) He finished second on the UL career list with 780 pass completions and 1,185 pass attempts, as his completion percentage (.658) is the fifth-best mark among NCAA quarterbacks active last season. He compiled a 24-9 record as a starter for the Cardinals.

Brian Brohm was a standout quarterback at Trinity High School, where he was named USA Today Offensive Player of the Year as a senior. He threw for 10,579 yards and 119 touchdowns (both rank second in state prep history) during his 44-game career and was the recipient of the National Quarterback Club's award for the National High School Quarterback of the Year in 2003.

Brohm was voted one of the 2003 National Top 150 Adidas Playmakers and named the Gatorade Player of the Year, in addition to earning Kentucky Mr. Football accolades. He was also selected to the Parade Magazine High School All-American teams and ranked as the best quarterback and second-ranked overall prospect in the country by ESPN's Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report.

Brohm led the Shamrocks to three state titles, was awarded the Roy Kidd Award and was a three-time state finalist for Most Valuable Player honors. He guided the team to a 15-0 record in the state playoffs and started for the East squad in the U.S. Army All-American Bowl.

He set a state record for career completion percentage. As a senior, Brohm threw for 3,720 yards and 33 touchdowns, completing 298-of-463 passes. He passed for 3,777 yards and 47 touchdowns on 226-of-335 passes with just one interception as a junior. In the 2002 state championship game, he completed 19-of-25 passes for 552 yards and seven touchdowns.

As a sophomore, Brohm completed 174-of-273 passes for 3,082 yards and 39 scores with only five interceptions. He was also a starter on the Trinity High basketball team that went to the State Tournament for the first time ever and was named player of the game in their first-round win. He was also the hoop squad's MVP, helping the team advance to the semifinals of the state tournament. Much like big brother Jeff, he excelled in baseball and was drafted by Colorado Rockies in the 2002 amateur baseball draft.

Heavily recruited, Brian Brohm decided to continue the family tradition of wearing a Louisville uniform, enrolling at the school in 2004. He was named the Conference USA Freshman of the Year and earned the Commissioner's Medal for having over a 3.75 grade point average. He was selected the team's Offensive Newcomer of the Year and was a member of the Conference USA All-Freshmen Team.

Playing behind Stefan LeFors, Brohm completed 66-of-99 passes (67.3%) for 819 yards, six touchdowns and two interceptions in 11 games. He owned a 153.51 passing efficiency rating and added 81 yards with a pair of scores on 27 carries (3.0-yard average), as one of only eight true freshmen quarterbacks in the country to see significant time that season.

Despite missing the team's final two games (vs. Connecticut and Virginia Tech) with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee, Brohm earned second-team All-Big East Conference accolades in 2005. Under Brohm's guidance, the passing offense ranked ninth in the nation (482.08 yards per game) and he stood second in passing efficiency (166.73).

The quarterback threw for 2,883 yards, 19 touchdowns and just five interceptions on 207-of-301 attempts (68.8%, the second-best season total in school history), adding three more scores on 41 rushing attempts.

Injuries again kept Brohm from playing a full schedule in 2006, as he was sidelined vs. Kansas State and Middle Tennessee State after suffering a torn ligament in his right thumb, an injury that required surgery. He still managed to rank ninth nationally in passing efficiency (159.08) and total offense (281.27 yards per game), as he connected on 199-of-313 throws (63.6%) for 3,049 yards, 16 touchdowns and five interceptions. He also amassed 45 yards on 47 carries.

Brohm underwent left shoulder surgery (labrum) after the 2006 campaign, but had firmly entrenched his status as one of college football's elite players.

He was recovered from surgery early in the 2007 season, but while the offense clicked on all eight cylinders, their defense would prove to be their downfall, as the Cardinals failed to earn a bowl berth. Brohm ranked fourth in the nation with an average of 335.33 yards passing per game and finished sixth nationally with an average of 331.5 yards per game in total offense. He connected on 308-of-473 attempts (65.1%) for 4,024 yards, 30 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He scored three times on 57 carries and gained 3,978 yards in total offense.

In 44 games at Louisville, Brohm started 33 contests. He holds conference and school career mark with 10,775 yards passing, completing 780-of-1,185 tosses (65.82%) with 71 touchdowns and 24 interceptions. He ran for eight scores and 44 yards on 172 carries (0.3-yard average) and caught two passes for a total of one yard. On 1,357 offensive snaps, he generated 10,819 yards in total offense while accounting for 79 total touchdowns.

Josh Johnson (QB)

Height: 6'3"

Weight: 198

College: San Diego

Conference: Pioneer

Hometown: Oakland,, CA

High School: Oakland Tech

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One of the game's best-kept secrets, at least where the national media is concerned, Johnson has greatly impressed professional scouts that have actually seen him perform. Many will agree that he is one of the most exciting athletes to watch with the ball in his hands, bringing back memories of Michael Vick and Vince Young during their collegiate days.

Johnson brings tremendous energy to the field and is the type defenses must account for on every play. Whether it is unleashing a deep pass, putting zip on his short throws or playing like a whirling dervish running with the ball, the talented quarterback has proven he can strike from anywhere on the field.

Johnson earned first-team All-City, Oakland Chamber of Commerce Prep of the Month and Most Improved Player honors as a senior at Oakland Technical High School. He was also named Most Inspirational his junior year when he could not play due to injury. He threw for 1,900 yards and 22 touchdowns with just two interceptions his senior season, leading his team to the Oakland Athletic League Championship.

The versatile athlete also lettered in basketball and track. He was an honorable mention All-City choice in hoops and finished in the high jump (6'5") at the Oakland Athletic League Championships.

Looking for an opportunity to be part of a rising football program, Johnson turned down scholarship offers from St. Mary's and Idaho State to enroll at San Diego in 2004. That year, he appeared in seven games, playing behind Todd Mortensen. He hit on 12-of-22 passes (54.5%) for 135 yards, no touchdowns and one interception. He added 39 yards and a pair of scores on 13 carries (3.0 avg), caught a 3-yard pass and returned a pair of punts for a 1-yard loss.

With Mortensen having graduated, Johnson took over starting duties in 2005, going on to win the first of two Pioneer Football League Offensive Player of the Year honors. He was a first-team All-American choice by The Sports Network and named Division 1-AA Offensive Back of the Year by the Football Gazette.

Johnson ranked 11th in the nation in pass completions (260-of-371 attempts), setting school season-records for pass completion percentage (70.1), yards passing (3,256) and touchdown passes (36). He finished second nationally with a 171.51 passing efficiency rating and ranked fifth with an average of 302.92 yards per game in total offense. His 3,635 yards in total offense is the second-highest season total in school history.

In 2006, Johnson received consensus All-American and unanimous All-Pioneer Football League first-team recognition. The Division 1-AA Offensive Player of the Year by The NFL Draft Report was also selected the PFL's Offensive Player of the Year. He led the nation with a 169.02 passing efficiency rating, an average of 333.67 yards per game in total offense, 3,320 yards passing and 24.33 points per game that he was responsible for.

Johnson connected on 246-of-371 passes (66.3%) with 34 touchdowns and only five interceptions. He picked up 720 yards with 11 scores on 107 carries (6.7 avg) and caught two passes for 27 yards and a touchdown. He participated in 478 plays, as his 4,040 yards in total offense rank 15th on the NCAA FCS/1-AA season-record list.

Johnson earned the team's MVP award following the 2007 season. He finished third in the Walter Payton Award voting while throwing a school-record 43 touchdown passes. He led the nation in total offense, passing efficiency and points responsible for.

Johnson finished his career as the NCAA's all-time leader in passing efficiency at 176.7.

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grendel (3/31/2008)
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I want Flacco bad
I won't say bad, because I think he's the biggest risk of the draft, but I can see Flacco being a very good fit here.

Course, you left off the best QB in this draft from your list.

No, Brohm's on the list.

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Chad Henne is the guy if we can't get Brohm, guy is gonna be a very good pro IMO.

Flacco is a high ceiling/high risk guy. Falcons can't afford to take a risk on someone like that, plus, he played his entire career in the 'gun. Beware of college QB's who spend their entire career in the 'gun. It usually doesn't equal future success as a pro.

And get off the Johnson hype. He's a project at best.

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[i disagree about Johnson. He's been coached up right in a pro-style offense by a former NFL QB. He's got good mechanics and a sound understanding of the fundamentals of a pro offense.

If we don't get Brohm, I'd wait till the 3rd round and take either Flacco (if he's there, unlikely), Johnson, or Woodson, in that order.

Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best, and he played in a WCO. And that's all he has the arm for.

And if we take Woodson I'm boycotting the Falcons until either he's cut or TD is fired. He's gonna be a bust and WILL NOT be an NFL QB.Neither will Johnson IMO.

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's.  Also Johnson at least played in a pro style offense, Flacco played in the shotgun formation.  He even had trouble with his footwork dropping back at the combine, Flacco maybe a bigger project than Johnson.

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects is showing now. 

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now. 

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now. 

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

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Matthew Pritts (3/31/2008)

Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now. 

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

The only reason Flacco wouldn't be a project is based on his arm strength alone.

But he needs a lot of seasoning, especially from working under center and getting used to the much better competition. That's a huge jump on the latter.

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Matthew Pritts (3/31/2008)

Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know. His competition was just as weak as Johnson. They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's.

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also. I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now.

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

The only reason Flacco wouldn't be a project is based on his arm strength alone.

But he needs a lot of seasoning, especially from working under center and getting used to the much better competition. That's a huge jump on the latter.

Play nice

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know. His competition was just as weak as Johnson. They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's.

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also. I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now.

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

The only reason Flacco wouldn't be a project is based on his arm strength alone.

But he needs a lot of seasoning, especially from working under center and getting used to the much better competition. That's a huge jump on the latter.

Play nice

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now. 

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

The only reason Flacco wouldn't be a project is based on his arm strength alone.

But he needs a lot of seasoning, especially from working under center and getting used to the much better competition. That's a huge jump on the latter.

So by your logic as long as you have a big arm you aren't a project?:blink: I still don't understand how you can pretty much even admit to the fact that Flacco needs a lot of work (and he does) yet dismiss Johnson. Johnson's arm is no weaker than Drew Brees who plays in a vertical offense too. So I'm not understanding your crusade against him. It really isn't a stretch to say that Johnson is going to be ready to play sooner than Flacco will be.

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Disagree about Johnson. His competition he played was marginal at best,

Wow and then you say:

Brohm, Henne, Flacco, in that order for me.

The same can be said about Flacco you know.  His competition was just as weak as Johnson.  They (like all Qb's not named Big Ben) are projects but both of them have all the physical tools to be great QB's. 

Falcons are in no position to draft a project at the most important position on the field.

They need someone who is pro-ready like Brohm, like Henne, and yes, LIke Ryan.

And c'mon, Johnson played in 1-AA. DOn't even bring up the competition argument.

Dude, you are the one who said you like Flacco and he played in 1-AA also.  I think your lack of knowledge of the prospects are showing now. 

The lack of competiton is a concern for Flacco too as well.

I said he was 3rd on my list, actually, he's 4th, right behind Ryan.

Don't put words in my mouth.

How did I put words in your mouth? You used the lack of competition argument against Johnson yet put Flacco on your list. You stated that Johnson was a project, yet put an even bigger project in Flacco on your list. Your doing a lot of waffling right now Matt.

The only reason Flacco wouldn't be a project is based on his arm strength alone.

But he needs a lot of seasoning, especially from working under center and getting used to the much better competition. That's a huge jump on the latter.

So by your logic as long as you have a big arm you aren't a project?:blink: I still don't understand how you can pretty much even admit to the fact that Flacco needs a lot of work (and he does) yet dismiss Johnson. Johnson's arm is no weaker than Drew Brees who plays in a vertical offense too. So I'm not understanding your crusade against him. It really isn't a stretch to say that Johnson is going to be ready to play sooner than Flacco will be.

If you look at it that way, then yes, Flacco is as much a project as Johnson is. But Flacco has more upside then Johnson.

Johnson is a project and the Falcons are not in a position to draft him and hope he's ready in 3 or 4 years. They need someone who is pro ready and can sit for a year and be ready to go. And that's where Brohm, Henne, and yes, even Ryan come in.

Johnson will be better suited going to a team w/an established franchise QB and learning for 3 or 4 years. A team that has a foundation. Which the Falcons don't.

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