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After spending countless hours scouring the internet for draft news and tidbits over the last few weeks, trying to get a handle on what the Falcons will do at #3 and what players will be there, I've been able to come up with a few things that I believe are certainly true, especially in light of Dorsey's workout.  With that being said, I understand that a lot of what I may read can be called "smokescreens" by one team or another.

If we understand the following to be true, who do we draft?

  • The Falcons will not take Matt Ryan
  • A healthy Glenn Dorsey will be ranked higher than Jake Long on everyone's draft board (including St. Louis)

What you want to do if Ryan Goes one and Dorsey two?  Or Chris Long one and Dorsey two?  Is Jake Long the automatic Falcon?  What should we do?

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On the surface, the notion of drawing the second pick in the NFL draft sounds like one of those can't-miss, bulletproof positions any team would love to be in. But looks can be deceiving.

As we draw within a month of the NFL's annual talent lottery, the unsettling draft history of the Rams makes you wonder if they'll turn an ideal situation into a blessing or a curse.

In a draft that is supposedly deep in talent and top-heavy in star quality, theoretically you would think the Rams couldn't go wrong. Yet who knew being No. 2 could be so complicated? Until now, there has been a great debate about not only who will still be there, but also what position player (offensive line, defensive line, running back) makes the most sense. Add to that confusion, the intrigue provided by the Miami Dolphins' new team president Bill Parcells, who traditionally loves being wildly unpredictable and purposely secretive, and you have the sort of volatile mixture of uncertainty that makes you wonder just how many ways things could go wrong for the Rams.

Fortunately, though, there's a new twist that could make the Rams' decision a lot less complicated than anyone could have expected. If LSU's brilliant defensive tackle, Glenn Dorsey, is as healthy as he looked in his Pro Day workout two days ago, Rams executives can stop wondering about what to do with the second pick. If Dorsey has a clean bill of heath and right now it appears that he does the 6-foot-1, 297-pound All-America may have elevated his status to the point where the Rams can't afford to pass him by.

For all the bluffing that Parcells is bound to do over the next three weeks, the reality is, Dorsey does not fit the bulky profile of a 3-4 run-stuffer that Parcells traditionally prefers to anchor his interior line. So unless the Dolphins can trade the pick to a team that desperately craves Dorsey, Miami likely will go after Virginia's defensive end Chris Long. And then the guessing game begins for Rams fans, who have spent the entire winter fretting over what the "new" decision makers at Rams Park will do.

First of all, let's eliminate the one thing they can't do.

It has been said before, but it's worth repeating: It would be beyond idiotic to draft

Darren McFadden unless they're certain he's the next coming of Jim Brown, Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith all rolled into one. It would be a tremendous waste of a high pick to invest in a running back because they already have a young and frighteningly talented one in Steven Jackson, who just might be the second- or third-best yardage producer in football in this new Al Saunders offense.

So that leaves the Rams with some difficult choices, and at this point in this franchise's history, these are choices they can't afford to blow. That

No. 2 pick better be an immediate starter and the sort of player who quickly becomes a dominant star in the league. If the Rams believe offensive tackle Jake Long is the second-best player in the draft, then they should by all means take him regardless of how many offensive tackles they already have. If they're convinced he's that valuable, he can play guard for a few years until Orlando Pace retires. But from all indications, there's no way Jake Long would be rated higher than a healthy Dorsey on many NFL draft boards.

And after Dorsey's impressive workout in Baton Rouge two days ago, if Dorsey isn't regarded as the Rams' best bet, it can only be because of bad medical evaluations on his healing knees or legs. After that Dorsey workout in front of a building full of NFL coaches, scouts and personnel executives, most of them left breathless, convinced Dorsey had returned to his place as the best athlete in the draft. More than one set of eyes who was at the Dorsey workout said privately that he looked like the kind of player who could become another young Warren Sapp.

The new-look Rams front office under Billy Devaney's rule needs to come out of the box strong, but if you think drafting this high in the first round makes Devaney's job easier, guess again. There are no guarantees in the draft, particularly at that second pick. Over the past six drafts, the No. 2 position has provided a mix of hits (Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown) and colossal misses (Robert Gallery, Charles Rogers).

Blessing or curse? One month to go until we find out.

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swiftkick (3/28/2008)
On the surface, the notion of drawing the second pick in the NFL draft sounds like one of those can't-miss, bulletproof positions any team would love to be in. But looks can be deceiving.

As we draw within a month of the NFL's annual talent lottery, the unsettling draft history of the Rams makes you wonder if they'll turn an ideal situation into a blessing or a curse.

In a draft that is supposedly deep in talent and top-heavy in star quality, theoretically you would think the Rams couldn't go wrong. Yet who knew being No. 2 could be so complicated? Until now, there has been a great debate about not only who will still be there, but also what position player (offensive line, defensive line, running back) makes the most sense. Add to that confusion, the intrigue provided by the Miami Dolphins' new team president Bill Parcells, who traditionally loves being wildly unpredictable and purposely secretive, and you have the sort of volatile mixture of uncertainty that makes you wonder just how many ways things could go wrong for the Rams.

Fortunately, though, there's a new twist that could make the Rams' decision a lot less complicated than anyone could have expected. If LSU's brilliant defensive tackle, Glenn Dorsey, is as healthy as he looked in his Pro Day workout two days ago, Rams executives can stop wondering about what to do with the second pick. If Dorsey has a clean bill of heath and right now it appears that he does the 6-foot-1, 297-pound All-America may have elevated his status to the point where the Rams can't afford to pass him by.

For all the bluffing that Parcells is bound to do over the next three weeks, the reality is, Dorsey does not fit the bulky profile of a 3-4 run-stuffer that Parcells traditionally prefers to anchor his interior line. So unless the Dolphins can trade the pick to a team that desperately craves Dorsey, Miami likely will go after Virginia's defensive end Chris Long. And then the guessing game begins for Rams fans, who have spent the entire winter fretting over what the "new" decision makers at Rams Park will do.

First of all, let's eliminate the one thing they can't do.

It has been said before, but it's worth repeating: It would be beyond idiotic to draft

Darren McFadden unless they're certain he's the next coming of Jim Brown, Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith all rolled into one. It would be a tremendous waste of a high pick to invest in a running back because they already have a young and frighteningly talented one in Steven Jackson, who just might be the second- or third-best yardage producer in football in this new Al Saunders offense.

So that leaves the Rams with some difficult choices, and at this point in this franchise's history, these are choices they can't afford to blow. That

No. 2 pick better be an immediate starter and the sort of player who quickly becomes a dominant star in the league. If the Rams believe offensive tackle Jake Long is the second-best player in the draft, then they should by all means take him regardless of how many offensive tackles they already have. If they're convinced he's that valuable, he can play guard for a few years until Orlando Pace retires. But from all indications, there's no way Jake Long would be rated higher than a healthy Dorsey on many NFL draft boards.

And after Dorsey's impressive workout in Baton Rouge two days ago, if Dorsey isn't regarded as the Rams' best bet, it can only be because of bad medical evaluations on his healing knees or legs. After that Dorsey workout in front of a building full of NFL coaches, scouts and personnel executives, most of them left breathless, convinced Dorsey had returned to his place as the best athlete in the draft. More than one set of eyes who was at the Dorsey workout said privately that he looked like the kind of player who could become another young Warren Sapp.

The new-look Rams front office under Billy Devaney's rule needs to come out of the box strong, but if you think drafting this high in the first round makes Devaney's job easier, guess again. There are no guarantees in the draft, particularly at that second pick. Over the past six drafts, the No. 2 position has provided a mix of hits (Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown) and colossal misses (Robert Gallery, Charles Rogers).

Blessing or curse? One month to go until we find out.

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I read that St. Louis Dispatch article two and it reinforces the notion that a healthy Dorsey goes #2

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Scott24Falcs (3/28/2008)
As much as it pains me to say it, I think Chris Long goes #1 overall. If the Rams follow that up by taking Dorsey, I'd look long and hard for a trade-down. I'm not quite sold on Jake Long.

If Ryan goes #1, and Dorsey goes #2, I'm taking Chris Long and not looking back.

I agree with you swifty. (hells freezes over )

If we go DE I really hope its Gholston. Chris long is a good player but I feel gholston could be a major upgrade to our overall defense.

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swiftkick (3/28/2008)
On the surface, the notion of drawing the second pick in the NFL draft sounds like one of those can't-miss, bulletproof positions any team would love to be in. But looks can be deceiving.

As we draw within a month of the NFL's annual talent lottery, the unsettling draft history of the Rams makes you wonder if they'll turn an ideal situation into a blessing or a curse.

In a draft that is supposedly deep in talent and top-heavy in star quality, theoretically you would think the Rams couldn't go wrong. Yet who knew being No. 2 could be so complicated? Until now, there has been a great debate about not only who will still be there, but also what position player (offensive line, defensive line, running back) makes the most sense. Add to that confusion, the intrigue provided by the Miami Dolphins' new team president Bill Parcells, who traditionally loves being wildly unpredictable and purposely secretive, and you have the sort of volatile mixture of uncertainty that makes you wonder just how many ways things could go wrong for the Rams.

Fortunately, though, there's a new twist that could make the Rams' decision a lot less complicated than anyone could have expected. If LSU's brilliant defensive tackle, Glenn Dorsey, is as healthy as he looked in his Pro Day workout two days ago, Rams executives can stop wondering about what to do with the second pick. If Dorsey has a clean bill of heath and right now it appears that he does the 6-foot-1, 297-pound All-America may have elevated his status to the point where the Rams can't afford to pass him by.

For all the bluffing that Parcells is bound to do over the next three weeks, the reality is, Dorsey does not fit the bulky profile of a 3-4 run-stuffer that Parcells traditionally prefers to anchor his interior line. So unless the Dolphins can trade the pick to a team that desperately craves Dorsey, Miami likely will go after Virginia's defensive end Chris Long. And then the guessing game begins for Rams fans, who have spent the entire winter fretting over what the "new" decision makers at Rams Park will do.

First of all, let's eliminate the one thing they can't do.

It has been said before, but it's worth repeating: It would be beyond idiotic to draft

Darren McFadden unless they're certain he's the next coming of Jim Brown, Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith all rolled into one. It would be a tremendous waste of a high pick to invest in a running back because they already have a young and frighteningly talented one in Steven Jackson, who just might be the second- or third-best yardage producer in football in this new Al Saunders offense.

So that leaves the Rams with some difficult choices, and at this point in this franchise's history, these are choices they can't afford to blow. That

No. 2 pick better be an immediate starter and the sort of player who quickly becomes a dominant star in the league. If the Rams believe offensive tackle Jake Long is the second-best player in the draft, then they should by all means take him regardless of how many offensive tackles they already have. If they're convinced he's that valuable, he can play guard for a few years until Orlando Pace retires. But from all indications, there's no way Jake Long would be rated higher than a healthy Dorsey on many NFL draft boards.

And after Dorsey's impressive workout in Baton Rouge two days ago, if Dorsey isn't regarded as the Rams' best bet, it can only be because of bad medical evaluations on his healing knees or legs. After that Dorsey workout in front of a building full of NFL coaches, scouts and personnel executives, most of them left breathless, convinced Dorsey had returned to his place as the best athlete in the draft. More than one set of eyes who was at the Dorsey workout said privately that he looked like the kind of player who could become another young Warren Sapp.

The new-look Rams front office under Billy Devaney's rule needs to come out of the box strong, but if you think drafting this high in the first round makes Devaney's job easier, guess again. There are no guarantees in the draft, particularly at that second pick. Over the past six drafts, the No. 2 position has provided a mix of hits (Julius Peppers, Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown) and colossal misses (Robert Gallery, Charles Rogers).

Blessing or curse? One month to go until we find out.

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They took Carriker and moved him to DT, drafting Dorsey allows them to move him back to his natral position.

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As much as it pains me to say it, I think Chris Long goes #1 overall. If the Rams follow that up by taking Dorsey, I'd look long and hard for a trade-down. I'm not quite sold on Jake Long.

If Ryan goes #1, and Dorsey goes #2, I'm taking Chris Long and not looking back.

I agree with you swifty. (hells freezes over )

If we go DE I really hope its Gholston. Chris long is a good player but I feel gholston could be a major upgrade to our overall defense.

exactly atleast Gholston can play standing up...Long can not ..He is going to be just like Kerney a high speed motor that leaves it all out on the field..If that was the case we should have kept Kerney last season and drafted Patrick Willis..

There is not many guys that can get me upset at 3 ...

Chris Long is the 1

Brian Brohm the other

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Scott24Falcs (3/28/2008)
As much as it pains me to say it, I think Chris Long goes #1 overall. If the Rams follow that up by taking Dorsey, I'd look long and hard for a trade-down. I'm not quite sold on Jake Long.

If Ryan goes #1, and Dorsey goes #2, I'm taking Chris Long and not looking back.

I agree with you swifty. (hells freezes over )

If we go DE I really hope its Gholston. Chris long is a good player but I feel gholston could be a major upgrade to our overall defense.

exactly atleast Gholston can play standing up...Long can not ..He is going to be just like Kerney a high speed motor that leaves it all out on the field..If that was the case we should have kept Kerney last season and drafted Patrick Willis..

There is not many guys that can get me upset at 3 ...

Chris Long is the 1

Brian Brohm the other

what??!@#?@?#?@#

you don't think Chris Long is capable of playing without being in a stance?  I'd MUCH rather see him playing OLB for us than Gholston.

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David Ethan (3/28/2008)
for the record, let's hope it goes Ryan-Dorsey so Chris Long will be a Falcon

if we draft Chris Long I will break my tv..we were better off keeping Kerney then

lol, you're crazy man, that's the best player in the draft

No chance best athlete in this draft is Gholston then McFadden

Best overall player is probably Dorsey ..

Long is consistent and Im calling it NOW HE WILL BE A BUST ..Im going out on a limb I just dont like what I see.He has all the inatgibles but I think Tackles in the NFL are going to eat him up..

I could be wrong though just my 2 cents

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swiftkick (3/28/2008)
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Scott24Falcs (3/28/2008)
As much as it pains me to say it, I think Chris Long goes #1 overall. If the Rams follow that up by taking Dorsey, I'd look long and hard for a trade-down. I'm not quite sold on Jake Long.

If Ryan goes #1, and Dorsey goes #2, I'm taking Chris Long and not looking back.

I agree with you swifty. (hells freezes over )

If we go DE I really hope its Gholston. Chris long is a good player but I feel gholston could be a major upgrade to our overall defense.

exactly atleast Gholston can play standing up...Long can not ..He is going to be just like Kerney a high speed motor that leaves it all out on the field..If that was the case we should have kept Kerney last season and drafted Patrick Willis..

There is not many guys that can get me upset at 3 ...

Chris Long is the 1

Brian Brohm the other

what??!@#?@?#?@#

you don't think Chris Long is capable of playing without being in a stance? I'd MUCH rather see him playing OLB for us than Gholston.

Gholston has more speed than chris long and would be able to play OLB better than chris long. Long might be able to play the same positions as gholston but I feel gholston would be able to play them better. Long might just be a little better at LDE than gholston but gholston would be the better RDE/OLB mix player.

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It's possible but not probable that St. Louis will take Dorsey.  I think Gholston is a more viable scenario because it fits a bigger need.  I also think they will take Chris Long if Miami doesn't. 

They are even bringing in McFadden for a private workout.  They seem to be worried about Jackson's durability.  Could be a bluff though. 

It's going to be a interesting 4 weeks.  This is the most unsettled draft I have ever seen.

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David Ethan (3/28/2008)
for the record, let's hope it goes Ryan-Dorsey so Chris Long will be a Falcon

if we draft Chris Long I will break my tv..we were better off keeping Kerney then

Why?  Is John Abraham getting any younger or more durable?

Probably not...

If Chris Long turns out to be the next Patrick Kerney wouldn't that be a good thing?

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Celt (3/28/2008)
It's possible but not probable that St. Louis will take Dorsey.  I think Gholston is a more viable scenario because it fits a bigger need.  I also think they will take Chris Long if Miami doesn't. 

They are even bringing in McFadden for a private workout.  They seem to be worried about Jackson's durability.  Could be a bluff though. 

It's going to be a interesting 4 weeks.  This is the most unsettled draft I have ever seen.

 

I would think they take Chris Long too because he's better than Dorsey, but what if it goes Long-Dorsey, would you take Jake?

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David Ethan (3/28/2008)
for the record, let's hope it goes Ryan-Dorsey so Chris Long will be a Falcon

if we draft Chris Long I will break my tv..we were better off keeping Kerney then

Why? Is John Abraham getting any younger or more durable?

Probably not...

gholston would be a better replacement to abe than chris long.. thats why.

Just think of the future with gholston on one side and anderson on the other.. Wow, especially if anderson continues to progress and plays up to his skill level.

Pick up up trevor laws in the 2nd. With a healthy trey lewis. That would be a dominate d-line in the future.

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Sun Tzu 7 (3/28/2008)
swiftkick (3/28/2008)
David Ethan (3/28/2008)
for the record, let's hope it goes Ryan-Dorsey so Chris Long will be a Falcon

if we draft Chris Long I will break my tv..we were better off keeping Kerney then

Why?  Is John Abraham getting any younger or more durable?

Probably not...

If Chris Long turns out to be the next Patrick Kerney wouldn't that be a good thing?

 

that would be a great thing, and he'll probably be better than Kerney

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