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Warpaint Illustrated Columnist

Posted Mar 20, 2008

When the Oakland Raiders traded for Randy Moss three seasons ago, Chiefs fans everywhere panicked. The thought of Moss running wild through KC s lackluster secondary and mooning the Arrowhead crowd after touchdowns was a frightening prospect.

The Chiefs themselves may have been a bit freaked out by The Freak s AFC West invasion, and traded for cornerback Patrick Surtain a month after the Raiders acquired Moss.

That eased everyone s fears for a few months, but then Moss abused Surtain in their first meeting that year, grabbing five passes for 127 yards and a touchdown. Oh, the horror!

Surtain injured a knee prior to KC s second game against Oakland that season, meaning 33-year old corner Dewayne Washington drew a starting assignment. Scary? You bet.

But nothing ever came of it. Moss did beat Washington for a touchdown, but the seven-yard grab was his only catch of the day. As big of a mismatch as Moss vs Washington was, the pressure the Chiefs put on quarterback Kerry Collins that day negated any huge repercussions.

The lesson to be learned? High-priced NFL cornerbacks are overrated commodities, unless their name is Deion Sanders.

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Terrell Owens toasts DeAngelo Hall for another touchdown.

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The Chiefs vastly overpaid for Surtain and Ty Law, handing out over $20 million in signing bonuses and more in base salary over the last three years. In five combined seasons the pair produced only 13 interceptions.

Cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who recently agreed to sign a contract worth $70 million with Oakland, isn t nearly as old as Surtain or Law, but he ll be even more overpaid. The Raiders may regret trading for him (as they did with Moss) before his career in the AFC West is over.

Chiefs fans who were intimidated by Moss in silver and black should be equally afraid of Hall, but for different reasons. Now that he s a Raider, there s nothing to be scared of, however.

The thought of Hall in red and gold is terrifying. The Chiefs had an interest in the former Falcons cornerback as early as last season, before the trade deadline. The Falcons wanted a first-round pick, however, a price too steep for Kansas City.

There s no way Hall was worth it. In Atlanta, he proved two things he was as big of a problem child as the NFL has recently seen and his play at cornerback was more hype than substance.

We ll start with DeAngelo Hall, the man. Here s a short-list of his offenses as a me-first, team-second player:

1. In 2006, the Falcons hosted New Orleans in Week 12. Just before halftime, with the Saints ahead 14-6, quarterback Drew Brees launched a hail-mary attempt from midfield. Hall was in position to knock the pass down at the goal line, but instead, went for the interception. The ball went from Hall s hands to Terrence Copper s, who caught it for a 48-yard touchdown. Atlanta went on to lose the game (Hall was also beaten for a 76-yard touchdown early in the game).

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DeAngelo Hall supports his local neighborhood felon.

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2. The day Michael Vick received his prison sentence, the Falcons played on Monday Night Football. Apparently Hall thought it would be cute to support his dog-killing teammate on national television by holding up a Vick poster for ESPN s cameras.

3. In Week 3 of 2007, the Falcons hosted the Panthers. Hall turned in a stunning performance, holding Steve Smith to just one catch for 10 yards. Unfortunately, his poor attitude cost Atlanta the game, anyway, when he allowed Carolina to tie the score at 17 in the third quarter because of 67 yards in penalties on one drive.

First, Hall committed pass interference after Smith beat him deep. One play later, Hall shoved Smith, drawing a 15-yard personal foul penalty. On the ensuing play, Hall s trash talk resulted in another 15-yard penalty, negating a series-ending sack and extending a drive that culminated in a touchdown. Even worse, after the game, Hall did not apologize for a clear lack of judgment on his part. ("I felt like a lot of calls could have gone either way. They all went against me.")

If you think the above sounds bad, it gets worse. Despite his big plays (17 interceptions and 36 passes defensed in four seasons) and Sportscenter highlight reel, Hall s reputation as a shut-down cornerback is overblown.

According to Football Outsiders, Atlanta cornerbacks ranked 17th against number one receivers in 2005, 31st in 2006 and 10th in 2007. That doesn t speak well to Hall s supposed status as an elite cornerback. A quick review of Hall s history against elite receivers isn t impressive, either. Terrell Owens racked up 112 yards the first time he faced Hall in 2005, and toasted him twice for touchdowns in 2006.

That same season, Joey Galloway (161 yards), Marques Colston (97 yards), Hines Ward (171 yards, three touchdowns), Roy Williams (138 yards, one touchdown) and Santana Moss (123 yards, one touchdown) all victimized Atlanta s defense. Hall obviously wasn t locked on these receivers every time they caught a pass, but aren t elite cornerbacks supposed to make a difference?

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Why is Hines Ward smiling? He's heading for six courtesy of Hall.

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What was Hines Ward, a receiver not known for his speed, doing running right past Hall for a 70-yard touchdown? Plaxico Burress (97 yards, one touchdown) and Anquan Boldin (162 yards, two touchdowns) found success against Atlanta s secondary last season.

Can you imagine the Chiefs spending an insane amount of dough on the player described above? What would Hall s reaction be to a team struggling through the growing pains associated with a rebuilding project? How could he possibly mesh with Herm Edwards team-first mentality? Do you see many Cover 2 defenses around the league featuring overpriced cornerbacks?

According to one NFL insider, Hall wasn t too interested in coming to Kansas City anyway. Wouldn t it have been a shame if MeAngelo had taken the money Jared Allen rightfully has earned by proving himself on the field (15.5 sacks) and off it (sober for months)?

Perhaps Chiefs fans and those running the show at One Arrowhead Drive should thank the Raiders and Al Davis for removing the temptation to trade for Hall. It appears he ll fit perfectly in Oakland, anyway, where the new slogan is Just get paid, baby.

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I hate ******** press, and for once it wasn't the ajc.

They state 3 things to do with how bad Hall is. The second one, he isn't even on the field! So make that two. The first one was a split second decision which went wrong. The 3rd has been blown so out of proportion by the press, I'm sick to death of it.

They do actually say the numbers AS A TEAM are bad, but even with that it seems to be Halls fault he was following the play sent in and not telepathicaly knowing who the ball is being thrown at, and breaking the plan and sticking on that man.

I'm sorry Hall is gone. Now lets get what we can out of the Raiders for him!

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I agree we need to move on.  In fact, I'm ok with the trade too.  I wish the best to Hall and thank him for his play here as a Falcon.

The one beef I do have though is where it says that DeAngelo got burned all those times in 2006.  We were running a zone system A LOT that year.  It's kinda tough to put all of that on Hall. 

Conversely, I distinctly remember the play just before halftime against the Saints when Hall went for the pick instead of knocking it down.  That play ticked me off because even if he intercepted it, he was going down in the endzone and the half was over.  It was a bonehead play.  

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Wow, that guy must hate D-Hall. Please don't post this in TATF - the information is so skewed its not even funny. Just because a WR gains so much yards doesn't mean Hall gave up the yards. Playing defense takes a team - 1 player can't cover the entire field. That guy needs to be fired!! It's not that he bashes D-Hall, but he skews the information.

And I highly disagree with this point: "The lesson to be learned? High-priced NFL cornerbacks are overrated commodities, unless their name is Deion Sanders."

Good CBs are important especially when you look at who's playing in your division. The only reason the Chiefs can say they overpayed for CBs was because Moss didn't care about playing. And, the Raiders didn't have a QB throwing Moss the ball. Again, skewed information. Just ask the Eagles. Since they play TO and Burress twice a year, I'm sure they signed Samuel partly because of that reason - so the CB can lock down 2 top WRs 4 times a year.

I'm willing to bet the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins would love a top CB right now. I bet the Bills are hitting themselves after letting Clements walk.

CBs are also important during blitzes. Jim Johnson blitzes and therefore he needs CBs to hold down a WR until the blitz gets there. If you're facing WR is TO or Burress - it's extremely hard to cover them. That's why you need a good CB.

Good CBs are overrated ONLY if your scheme doesn't require a good CB. Some teams need good CBs. Other teams don't. You can't just say just because the Chiefs overpayed for a CB means that every team overpays for a CB.

Crappy crappy article. Guy needs to lose his job.

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thamill (3/20/2008)
I agree we need to move on.  In fact, I'm ok with the trade too.  I wish the best to Hall and thank him for his play here as a Falcon.

The one beef I do have though is where it says that DeAngelo got burned all those times in 2006.  We were running a zone system A LOT that year.  It's kinda tough to put all of that on Hall. 

Conversely, I distinctly remember the play just before halftime against the Saints when Hall went for the pick instead of knocking it down.  That play ticked me off because even if he intercepted it, he was going down in the endzone and the half was over.  It was a bonehead play.  

Nah..if he would have intercepted it he was taking it back to the house.  There was nothing but lineman and Drew Brees in his way.

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YoungHeezy (3/20/2008)
thamill (3/20/2008)
I agree we need to move on.  In fact, I'm ok with the trade too.  I wish the best to Hall and thank him for his play here as a Falcon.

The one beef I do have though is where it says that DeAngelo got burned all those times in 2006.  We were running a zone system A LOT that year.  It's kinda tough to put all of that on Hall. 

Conversely, I distinctly remember the play just before halftime against the Saints when Hall went for the pick instead of knocking it down.  That play ticked me off because even if he intercepted it, he was going down in the endzone and the half was over.  It was a bonehead play.  

Nah..if he would have intercepted it he was taking it back to the house.  There was nothing but lineman and Drew Brees in his way.

Yeah but he was in the air next to Terrance Copper.  I believe both hit the ground in the endzone on that play.  No way he was taking it to the house.  If it's your opinion that he would've than we agree to disagree.  To quote Chirs Berman and the Sunday NFL countdown panel..."What do you do on D on a Hail Mary?  KNOCK IT DOWN" 

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londonfalcon (3/20/2008)
I hate ******** press, and for once it wasn't the ajc.  They state 3 things to do with how bad Hall is. The second one, he isn't even on the field! So make that two. The first one was a split second decision which went wrong. The 3rd has been blown so out of proportion by the press, I'm sick to death of it.  They do actually say the numbers AS A TEAM are bad, but even with that it seems to be Halls fault he was following the play sent in and not telepathicaly knowing who the ball is being thrown at, and breaking the plan and sticking on that man. I'm sorry Hall is gone. Now lets get what we can out of the Raiders for him!
 
Right on, right on, and right on again.  Three for three.
 
And one more, for good measure.  The game against TO in 2005 was one of Hall's best games ever.  TO may have gotten 7 receptions for 112 yards, but McNabb threw 45 passes, a ridiculous 19 of which were intended for Owens.  7 of 19 is a pretty **** poor percentage.  In addition, two of those receptions did come when Owens was moved over to line up against Jason Webster.
 
In that game, Hall had five tackles, four of which were on Owens, and an interception intended for Owens. And on the last drive, after McNabb had spent all day long trying to throw the ball in to Owens, he finally gave up, and only targeted Owens once on a deep third down attempt, which fell incomplete.  I remember watching that game and not really paying attention to the stats.  I was later surprised to learn how many yards TO ended up with because he was dominated by Hall in that game.
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I know for a fact that all three of Ward's TD's were not on Hall. The one with no shoe, yes...which is kinda sad. But like Somecut said, it takes a team. Receivers move around and we rarely had him shadowing one person unless it was someone like Steve Smith, who historically has struggled against Hall.

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I enjoyed watching D-Hall play. Unfortunately his mouth was bigger than his talent. If he would have just shut up and played football he could have been one of my favorites. Sanders may have talked some trash, and liked to talk about himself, but when he made a mistake he always took the blame. When he got toasted, he always was humble enough to say so. D-hall is a legend in his own mind, therefore, he'll never be a legend in the NFL. Another talented player whose play can't backup their mouth or actions. I'm not a "hater". I was happy to have him here. But I'm not unhappy he's gone. And there's no way he's worth what the Raiders are paying him. Good luck D-hall, don't let the door hit you in the tookas on the way out the door.

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QV_26 (3/20/2008)
i agree with most of the above. and im still with hall about the carolina thing. that was a two sided thing the refs decided to call just one way.

Perhaps if Hall hadn't established the reputation and pattern of behavior he had, the 'questionable calls' would not have gone against him? Just a thought?

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gee_q (3/20/2008)
I love it how all the D Hall haters are coming out in full force. It's obvious there is some envy underling all of this. If he's gone, he's gone. Move on right...

Because when a team makes a trade the fanbase of the team wants that player to stink elsewhere and the player they get in return to be a world beater.

In reality, D.Hall is a top 10 CB in this league and with a solid Oakland defense around him and a supporting CB on the other side, their D will be back in it's 06 form.

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busboyisback (3/22/2008)
gee_q (3/20/2008)
I love it how all the D Hall haters are coming out in full force. It's obvious there is some envy underling all of this. If he's gone, he's gone. Move on right...

Because when a team makes a trade the fanbase of the team wants that player to stink elsewhere and the player they get in return to be a world beater.

In reality, D.Hall is a top 10 CB in this league and with a solid Oakland defense around him and a supporting CB on the other side, their D will be back in it's 06 form.

I find it hilarious how everyone we trade or release automatically becomes terrible in the majority of the fans eyes.

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