Draft priority??

[michaelgee]

I know lots of people keep saying we need linemen and I totally agree BUT if we are ever going to have a prolific offense, we need to draft the best QB candidate we can get and then get busy with the linemen. EARLY, maybe not first if Ryan id gone, but we do need to not settle for a 6th rounder. Sure Brady came from a late pick but that is the odd chance to get the better guy. If picking late is best decision then Colt Brennan will end up being the best QB?? That logic is just flawed, I'd like to get either Ellis, Dorsey or one of the Longs but I'd really like to see the Falcons, just for once, get the best QB candidate and then put everything we got into supporting him with linemen.

Miami is shucking and jiving about Ryan, I don't think they want Ryan but they want us to think they do so we could trade them 2 for 1 and they would still be picking 3rd.

I heard a lot of discussion about QB, I do think that for any single position it is probably where you need your best single player. I think Matt Ryan will be much like Peyton and could start by mid season. With the studs we have in RB positions, I think that Ryan will complete teh major pieces , then go directly to establishing the big guys up front and the dline.

[cheaton]

I definitely don't think we need to be spending money on first round quarterbacks. An OK QB will be just fine in a run-centric power offense. We shouldn't be drafting a QB any higher than 3rd round IMO. If we can get an OL we may even find Joey or Redman can do the job. I don't know anythign about Shockley except he was an ok college QB, but I have to imagine there's a reason he's been on our bench even when Vick was hurt. I'd say draft big uglies first, worry about everything else later.

[michaelgee]

cheaton (3/7/2008)

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I definitely don't think we need to be spending money on first round quarterbacks. An OK QB will be just fine in a run-centric power offense. We shouldn't be drafting a QB any higher than 3rd round IMO. If we can get an OL we may even find Joey or Redman can do the job. I don't know anythign about Shockley except he was an ok college QB, but I have to imagine there's a reason he's been on our bench even when Vick was hurt. I'd say draft big uglies first, worry about everything else later.

don't get me wrong, I played on the line in my time, but an OK QB will throw INT's when we need to be scoring TD's. We need an intelligent QB this time.

Other than Ryan I like Flacco and Henne, from what I have seen. My Petrino hatred has Brohm in a bad light, I don't know if I could bear us signing Brohm.

There are a ton of linemen we could use and I like them all for the most part, offense and defense.

This draft is THE draft that we needed TD for.

[phattywankenobi]

I am just not wowed by any QB in this draft plain and simple. I believe there are a lot of 2nd round QB's. I also believe this draft is deep in O line guys. I do, however, believe there is a sharp drop off after the first two DT's.

I think we should go DT, QB, OL, OL, MLB, Best Player Available from that point out and please find a kicker somewhere.

[1945]

I think you hit the nail on the head about a QB with intellegence. If we can or do get Joey re-signed I think both he and Redman would be perfect to train a new young quarterback. What other quarterbacks are there that can appreciate where they are and be willing to put their egos aside other than those two. Very few.

[spiker]

I would rather work the lines in the draft.But if TD thinks Ryan is a can't miss prospect then you will not hear me whining!!!

[1945]

We may be reading too much into Joey's release as far as QB needs go. I am sure, from what I have seen so far, that Dimitroff is'nt playing solitare. He is a high stakes poker player and this is his big chance to win a very big hand. When all is said and done I think everyone will be happy. Except for those who never are.

[michaelgee]

spiker (3/7/2008)

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I would rather work the lines in the draft.But if TD thinks Ryan is a can't miss prospect then you will not hear me whining!!!

spiker,

I have thought the same thing about TD, I am glad we have him to make the call since we have so much to gain or lose in this draft. So far, Thomas has done a superb job as GM, he don't tip his hand and he makes decisions that will work.

We got Tuner but if you compare some of the other signings, we got Michael Turner for a song. Faneca is good but I don't see that much for a lineman at his age. Some of the signings have been too high.

Javon Walker gets 55 million, well, what should Plax Burriss get then?

Some of the signings amaze me, Webster and Lewis Sanders to the Pats, come on, everybody ran past Lewis Sanders, even the officials were faster than Lewis.

[MidWest Falcon]

With all the speculation going around there is a possibility that Brohm could slip to the 2nd round. This, IMHO, would be the best scenario for the Falcons. We could get a stud DT/OT and then get a franchise QB in the 2nd round. Honestly I think we should go with Dorsey, Ellis, or Jake Long and then get a QB with our first pick in the second.........with all of that being said if we do draft Ryan I will not go crazy like a lot of the fans on here will

[spiker]

michaelgee (3/7/2008)

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spiker (3/7/2008)

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I would rather work the lines in the draft.But if TD thinks Ryan is a can't miss prospect then you will not hear me whining!!!

spiker,

I have thought the same thing about TD, I am glad we have him to make the call since we have so much to gain or lose in this draft. So far, Thomas has done a superb job as GM, he don't tip his hand and he makes decisions that will work.

We got Tuner but if you compare some of the other signings, we got Michael Turner for a song. Faneca is good but I don't see that much for a lineman at his age. Some of the signings have been too high.

Javon Walker gets 55 million, well, what should Plax Burriss get then?

Some of the signings amaze me, Webster and Lewis Sanders to the Pats, come on, everybody ran past Lewis Sanders, even the officials were faster than Lewis.

TD is sticking to the NE plan just as he said.The Pats signing Sanders and Webster makes me think,those two were not that bad.Either our scheme was flawed or the coaching was bad.Belechik ain't no dummy!!

[bronn83]

MidWest Falcon (3/7/2008)

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With all the speculation going around there is a possibility that Brohm could slip to the 2nd round. This, IMHO, would be the best scenario for the Falcons. We could get a stud DT/OT and then get a franchise QB in the 2nd round. Honestly I think we should go with Dorsey, Ellis, or Jake Long and then get a QB with our first pick in the second.........with all of that being said if we do draft Ryan I will not go crazy like a lot of the fans on here will

I agree. And I'm pretty sure that if we don't take a QB in the first round, either Brohm or Henne will fall to us in the second round, and I have both of them ahead of Ryan anyway. The only other two teams I could picture taking a QB in the first round are Baltimore and Chicago at this point, unless Bill Parcells has a complete change of heart. I'd be happy if we could get one of those guys in the second round.

[michaelgee]

Either our scheme was flawed or the coaching was bad.Belechik ain't no dummy!!

The Petrino scheme sucked

The coaching was flawed.

Belechick ain't no dummy.

wow, you were right on all three!

[Knight of God]

With this being a mostly RUN offense with a serious power attack, we'd do just as well with Henne or Booty. This is just me. I prefer Henne at this point. All that I hear about the guy is that he's a leader. Leadership isn't taught, nor is it a skill. Its a certain "Je ne sais quoi" that many are missing in this draft. Henne is the only one that really stands out.

[frozenfew]

I feel like we are in a catch 22 position right now and need just one more pick in the top 40 to avoid not getting one of the guys we want and the positions we need. If you go DT with the first pick then there isn't that much talent left in the top of the second. I feel its critical to get one of the top OT's and Long would be the guy with the #3 pick.. Its probably a safe bet if that happens that DT or QB is the nest choice at the top of the second, and I think its important to get the guy we want at QB, not second choice. IMO thats Henne, but if Pat Sims was our guy at DT, we are going to miss out on one of them. I think ideally the draft priority should be DT,OT,QB. but If I was to guess at what TD is thinking I would think it would be OT,QB,DT.

Which would you rather have..

Dorsey/Ellis, Cherilus? other OTthat possibly drop, and Flacco/woodson

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J.Long, Henne/Brohm, Whoever is left at DT.

I am just looking for some way we could get Long,Henne, and Sims. and there is no really realistic scenario with the picks we have. I wish there was but I am not willing to get the scraps of leftovers at QB late in the second round. I think getting the QB we want whether its with the first second, or third pick of our draft is the most important key to our success in this draft and in the near future.

[Kayoh]

Name one Pro-Bowl offensive lineman who was drafted after the 3rd round.

Now name a QB. The second one is much easier to do, isn't it?

[bronn83]

dp

[bronn83]

I'm trying to figure out which guy we want if we take a tackle in the second round. I'm going to declare that Jake Long and Ryan Clady are the consensus 1-2 tackles and both will go in the first round. After that it's more muddled and there's no telling who will take whom, so anyone else could potentially fall out of the first round.

Chris Williams is consistently graded as first rounder. He may fall because he isn't always aggressive enough and needs to add some more muscle to his frame. However, he's got very long arms and is solid in pass protection. His weakness is run blocking. I'd love to have him if he falls.

Jeff Otah might fall into the second round, and he's got plenty of good reviews, but the consensus on him seems to be that he's very talented, but a bit of project who needs some work and development. His technique is not refined and he can be inconsistent. He's very strong and some view him as a potential pro bowler. I wouldn't mind taking him.

Gosder Cherilus played mostly at RT, though he played LT his senior year. He has some trouble with speedy edge rushers. He gets a great push in run blocking. He is very strong, has long arms, and nimble feet, but a lot of people view him as more of a RT. I don't know if I want him.

Sam Baker was a three time all American and played hurt a lot. He doesn't have dominant strength, doesn't always get a great push, and isn't especially fluid. But he's a guy who seldom gets beaten cleanly and already has great technique. His ceiling may not be as high as some others, but he's a solid player and should play at a high level for a long time. I think this is the direction I'd go unless Chris Williams is available.

All in all, I think we still should take Jake Long in the first round, if he's available. We'd probably miss out on Sims because then we'd probably want to get our guy at QB in the second, since Baltimore and Chicago both choose before it gets back to our next pick. But we could go with Trevor Laws at 48 and still get a good player. Right now, though, it doesn't look like Jake Long will fall to us at 3. In that case, it would be Dorsey or Ellis, depending mostly on how the team evaluates Dorsey's health. After that it just dpends on who's available at 37. If Chris Williams was on the board, unlikely of course, I'd love to have him. Assuming he's not, I'd have to take Baker and then Henne.

[Lee Long©]

Personally, We should go Defense first. Get Dorsey or Ellis, then try for Henne or Flacco in the second along with a T. Which T, I have no idea though.

[blkbigdog35]

You have to build a foundation and it starts in the trenchs just look at the playoff teams offensive and defensive lines!!

[bronn83]

I'm curious, who's going to start for us at MLB next season?

Everything I've heard indicates Brooking is moving back to the weak side. I don't think we're going to end up getting a starting MLB in this draft unless we trade D-Hall for a first round pick, and I'd rather not see that happen. It seems really unlikely that Jered Mayo falls to the third round-beyond that, I don't really like the ILBs in this draft. Unless we make a play at Jeremiah Trotter, there's not really that much out there in free agency either.

[michaelgee]

Lee Long (3/8/2008)

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Personally, We should go Defense first. Get Dorsey or Ellis, then try for Henne or Flacco in the second along with a T. Which T, I have no idea though.

Lee,

I'm from Statesboro, I respect your sig!

[Hamp]

Jake Long should be the pick @ #3.

[Lee Long©]

michaelgee (3/8/2008)

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Lee Long (3/8/2008)

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Personally, We should go Defense first. Get Dorsey or Ellis, then try for Henne or Flacco in the second along with a T. Which T, I have no idea though.

Lee,

I'm from Statesboro, I respect your sig!

Thanks Michael, it's been a rough month!

[Knight of God]

michaelgee (3/7/2008)

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cheaton (3/7/2008)

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I definitely don't think we need to be spending money on first round quarterbacks. An OK QB will be just fine in a run-centric power offense. We shouldn't be drafting a QB any higher than 3rd round IMO. If we can get an OL we may even find Joey or Redman can do the job. I don't know anythign about Shockley except he was an ok college QB, but I have to imagine there's a reason he's been on our bench even when Vick was hurt. I'd say draft big uglies first, worry about everything else later.

don't get me wrong, I played on the line in my time, but an OK QB will throw INT's when we need to be scoring TD's. We need an intelligent QB this time.

Other than Ryan I like Flacco and Henne, from what I have seen. My Petrino hatred has Brohm in a bad light, I don't know if I could bear us signing Brohm.

There are a ton of linemen we could use and I like them all for the most part, offense and defense.

This draft is THE draft that we needed TD for.

Most of the QB's in this draft have at least INTELLIGENCE going for them. Thats a moot point.

[Herr Doktor]

cheaton (3/7/2008)

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I definitely don't think we need to be spending money on first round quarterbacks. An OK QB will be just fine in a run-centric power offense. We shouldn't be drafting a QB any higher than 3rd round IMO. If we can get an OL we may even find Joey or Redman can do the job. I don't know anythign about Shockley except he was an ok college QB, but I have to imagine there's a reason he's been on our bench even when Vick was hurt. I'd say draft big uglies first, worry about everything else later.

I think YKW burned the Franchise on spending top dollar on a first round QB. I really think that we can get Henne in the late second round. I think he is more our style (new) of QB. Used to playing against top notch competition, is big and can take a hit, has a good arm, not afraid in the pocket, and has led his team for 4 years. If we don't get him, I think we have to look at Woodson and then, and I may be suffering from a stroke on this, we get Colt Brennan. I know Colt got smashed by the Dawgs, and he looked bad while having said smashing delivered to him, but I just think this kid has a little Drew Brees in him. You know, the starting QB we would currently have had we taken LaDainian.