falcon_eyes Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Skelton Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 birdweiserrr (3/5/2008)Everyone knows we need a franchise QB. Everyone knows we will draft a QB this year. We will be drafting for a franchise QB, not a QB to be a full time backup or a 3 year project. If TD believes there is a franchise QB in this draft (maybe even more than one), he should take him in the 1st round. There will be no GM out there that needs a QB that expects a franchise QB to be available in the 2nd. TD will not be thinking, "well I believe so and so is a franchise QB and he should be there in the 2nd". Franchise QB's go in the 1st.Of course there are times when a QB is taken after the 1st as a project or a full time back-up and turns out to be a star. However, when this happens it's because GM's didn't think he was a franchise type of guy. He beat the odds.We need a franchise QB and I believe TD will take one in the 1st round.Hey Birdweiserrr, Do you really believe that any of these guys available this year are Franchise quarterbacks? I don't I just don't see it. I hope we don't pick a qb in the first round. What if he's a chump, a bust? Then we are right back to where we are now, debating our future early in the draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. pudding Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 that's the problem...there are no franchise quarterbacks in this draft...why waste the pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drneckbone Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Don Solo (3/5/2008)londonfalcon (3/5/2008)Build the line and they will make the QB look better.I could not agree more with this statement. There are quite a few QBs that can look like "franchise QBs" if they are not running for their lives. To me, I just don't see Ryan being head and shoulders better than anyone the Falcons could get at the top of the 2nd round this year. If there was that much of a difference between Ryan and a Henne or Flacco, then I would say draft Ryan without question. However, I just don't see him being that much better. So, my opinion is to draft either OL or DL in the first, and then address QB in the second.I agree, I just do not see Ryan that much better either. He threw too many picks in college and that number would essentially double at the Pro level. After cutting Joey, I'm scared he may be the pick although it would go against "the being strong up the middle" statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evil emperor Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 birdweiserrr (3/5/2008)TD will not be thinking, "well I believe so and so is a franchise QB and he should be there in the 2nd".Link ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott hartley Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 birdweiserrr (3/5/2008)Everyone knows we need a franchise QB. Everyone knows we will draft a QB this year. We will be drafting for a franchise QB, not a QB to be a full time backup or a 3 year project. If TD believes there is a franchise QB in this draft (maybe even more than one), he should take him in the 1st round. There will be no GM out there that needs a QB that expects a franchise QB to be available in the 2nd. TD will not be thinking, "well I believe so and so is a franchise QB and he should be there in the 2nd". Franchise QB's go in the 1st.Of course there are times when a QB is taken after the 1st as a project or a full time back-up and turns out to be a star. However, when this happens it's because GM's didn't think he was a franchise type of guy. He beat the odds.We need a franchise QB and I believe TD will take one in the 1st round.You forgot to mention that there are no franchise QB's to be had in the 1st round this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert L Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 scott hartley (3/6/2008)birdweiserrr (3/5/2008)We need a franchise QB and I believe TD will take one in the 1st round.You forgot to mention that there are no franchise QB's to be had in the 1st round this yearEvery team needs a franchise QB-that is correct. But you also need a team around him. I am basing my opinion by what I have seen them do in New England and built the team from the inside out. Generally when someone is hired from a winning organization he knows what blueprint they used to get there. The Patriots(granted they had Bledsoe/Brady already) went O-line, D-line early and often. And with the coaching staff here, and the style of offense they want to play they will do the same. The deal will be JAM THE BALL DOWN YOUR THROAT. And TD and Coach Smith have been saying the whole time-YOU WIN THE GAME IN THE TRENCHES. And they are right. Who won the Superbowl? The Giants did...how? They demolished the Patriots line. Punished Brady at every attempt. This is arguably the greatest QB to play the game. And he lost to a superior line. Not a superior QB, but to the line that won it in the trenches. Football has a habit of following trends...and well right now, strength up front is that trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert L Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Oh my B-and in terms of there being no franchise QB's in the draft-we really won't KNOW for certain til a few years down the line...you can talk workout stats, COLLEGE game stats, intangibles etc...but until said player is in the NFL for a couple years-you really don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I have been following this post and wonder if someone would define the term" Franchise Quarterback". Is there a specific definition?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Briam Brohm is the ONLY QB in this entire draft that looks like having even a shot at becoming that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signout Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 DLS (3/6/2008)I have been following this post and wonder if someone would define the term" Franchise Quarterback". Is there a specific definition?? Thanks:laugh:I wonder if anyone has the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 This one definition I found"Franchise Player"Definition: A club can designate one franchise or transition player in any given year. " The salary level offer by a player's old club determines what type of franchise player he is. " An "exclusive" franchise player -- not free to sign with another club -- is offered a minimum of the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of April 16, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. " If the player is offered a minimum of the average of the top five salaries of last season at his position, or 120 percent of the player s previous year s salary, he becomes a non-exclusive franchise player and can negotiate with other clubs. His old club can match a new club's offer, or receive two first-round draft choices if it decides not to match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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