BigBlackBB Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 players that are still out htere in FA I think we need to look at include: OT Nat Dorsey (6'7" 335) (GT grad) OT George Foster (6'5" 338) (UGA grad) OT Kwame Harris (6'7" 322) OT Sean Locklear (6'4" 308) OT Stockar McDougle (6'6" 340) OT Joseph Toledo (6'5" 325) OL Floyd Womack (6'4" 328) OG Milford Brown (6'5" 330) OG Rex Hadnot (6'2" 325) OC Ross Tucker (6'4" 310) not all of these are for the starting spot. but imagine if we got Womack (cut Forney), Rex Hadnot for C (cut McClure) and George Foster (RT starter competition) and drafted Jake Long (6'7" 313) LT - Jake Long - 6'7" 313 LG - Justin Blalock - 6'4" 329 C - Rex Hadnot - 6'2" 325 RG - Floyd Womack - 6'4' 328 RT - George Foster - 6'5" 338 NT Grady Jackson (6'3" 362) NT Ethan Kelley (6'2" 338) NT Jimmy Kennedy (6'4" 325) DT Kindal Moorehead (6'2" 285) DT Marques Douglas (6'2" 292) DE Javon Kearse (6'4" 265) LB Boss Bailey (6'3" 235) LB Keyaron Fox (6'3" 235) LB Nick Greisen (6'1" 245) LB Victor Hobson (6'0" 252) LB Dan Morgan (6'2" 245) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini_Falcon59 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I would love to see Womack, and Hadnot signed. Also would love to see us bring Grady Jackson back, was the stupidest move all year cutting him when we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlackBB Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Illini_Falcon59 (3/5/2008)I would love to see Womack, and Hadnot signed. Also would love to see us bring Grady Jackson back, was the stupidest move all year cutting him when we did.I agree, god bless you sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucman™® Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Nice info.And I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I thought Sean Locklear got resigned or franchised???Im pretty sure he was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert L Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)players that are still out htere in FA I think we need to look at include: OT Nat Dorsey (6'7" 335) (GT grad) OG Rex Hadnot (6'2" 325) Rex Hadnot for C (cut McClure)Dorsey is still young enough he might start to "get it" and be a good massive backup at RT. Oh, and come cheap as well. I think Hadnot WOULD be a nice fit at Center as well.The other's on your list I think would either be too old, or too pricey-maybe a combo of each. I also think Shane Olivea would be nice at RT to start perhaps-or try him at RG he is about 315, and still only 26 years old. "Olivea, 26, has been regarded by some league personnel evaluators as one of the NFL's most consistent right tackles, a position that has lacked quality leaguewide the past few seasons. Despite his low-round draft status, Olivea earned a starting job as a rookie in 2004 and started all 16 games that season."--Len Pasquarelli ESPNWould much rather spend on Olivea than Maurice Williams IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 May i add Shane Olivea RT in that list Chargers young and very talented RT. or did he get signed somewhere today? Also OM it's good to see you here This time around i don't have to worry about being banned by ya :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)players that are still out htere in FA I think we need to look at include: OT Nat Dorsey (6'7" 335) (GT grad) OG Rex Hadnot (6'2" 325) Rex Hadnot for C (cut McClure)Dorsey is still young enough he might start to "get it" and be a good massive backup at RT. Oh, and come cheap as well. I think Hadnot WOULD be a nice fit at Center as well.The other's on your list I think would either be too old, or too pricey-maybe a combo of each. I also think Shane Olivea would be nice at RT to start perhaps-or try him at RG he is about 315, and still only 26 years old. "Olivea, 26, has been regarded by some league personnel evaluators as one of the NFL's most consistent right tackles, a position that has lacked quality leaguewide the past few seasons. Despite his low-round draft status, Olivea earned a starting job as a rookie in 2004 and started all 16 games that season."--Len Pasquarelli ESPNWould much rather spend on Olivea than Maurice Williams IMOActually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafalconsfan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 The H.N.I.C. 2! (3/5/2008)I thought Sean Locklear got resigned or franchised???Im pretty sure he was...He was resigned. do you really think Grady would return? If I were him I tell the falcons to suck it, for all the bullshitte they did to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Appears to be several choices that the staff can make in rebuilding the lines which is good. Let's hope that they can address a piece of this in FA and finish up with a good draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornsmd Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Kwame Harris just signed with the Raiders. I also would like to get Olivea and Williams. RT and RG. Datish for center, Blalock at LG and draft either Baker or Collins in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert L Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)Actually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with.This point in time it looks really nice on paper...but how much are we talking about spending here? Boley NEEDS to be resigned along with a couple other RFA's. There also needs to be enough $$ in the rookie pool as well. That's Why I say I would take Shane-O over Mo Williams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 get Maurice williams and hadnot(sp), and lock up the middle. Tackles can be draft picks, because in our new system run is most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)Actually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with.This point in time it looks really nice on paper...but how much are we talking about spending here? Boley NEEDS to be resigned along with a couple other RFA's. There also needs to be enough $$ in the rookie pool as well. That's Why I say I would take Shane-O over Mo Williams...man cut brooking, get Shane and maurice, or Maurice and hadnot, then draft the rest of the needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert L Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 GEORGIAfan (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)man cut brooking, get Shane and maurice, or Maurice and hadnot, then draft the rest of the needs.Would if I could along with Finn, Forney and McLure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Robert L (3/5/2008)GEORGIAfan (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)man cut brooking, get Shane and maurice, or Maurice and hadnot, then draft the rest of the needs.Would if I could along with Finn, Forney and McLure...agree, and that should actually clean up enough wasted space. to give us just enough to resign Boley and Hall( if we try to keep him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecut8 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 kwame harris? KWAME HARRIS??here's a good video of him playing: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=12457884]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=12457884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)Actually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with.This point in time it looks really nice on paper...but how much are we talking about spending here? Boley NEEDS to be resigned along with a couple other RFA's. There also needs to be enough $$ in the rookie pool as well. That's Why I say I would take Shane-O over Mo Williams...Each of them are about 4 to 5 mil a year average. Which is reasonable. As of right now before any more new releases we are about 8-10 mil. So we could get those 2 at 4-5 mil a year. Then we could release Harrington, Brooking, Forney, Wiener, Horn Just by releasing those 5 which would be easily possible since we either got their replacement FA or drafted. We would get back 9-10 mil. Milloy would only save us about 800k so he's worth keeping. 9-10 mil + the annointed cap allowment would easily be enough the drafted players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)Actually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with.This point in time it looks really nice on paper...but how much are we talking about spending here? Boley NEEDS to be resigned along with a couple other RFA's. There also needs to be enough $$ in the rookie pool as well. That's Why I say I would take Shane-O over Mo Williams...Each of them are about 4 to 5 mil a year average. Which is reasonable. As of right now before any more new releases we are about 8-10 mil. So we could get those 2 at 4-5 mil a year. Then we could release Harrington, Brooking, Forney, Wiener, Horn Just by releasing those 5 which would be easily possible since we either got their replacement FA or drafted. We would get back 9-10 mil. Milloy would only save us about 800k so he's worth keeping. 9-10 mil + the annointed cap allowment would easily be enough the drafted players.agree, we actually have a few players we could release and get cap back to resign Boley. i personally think we need Maurice and hadnot( play center), because we are a run 1st team, and we could get a good LT( baker) in the 2nd, and a RT in the later rounds or stick with foster.( who wasnt bad at LT even).Man getting Maurice and hadnot would be sick, and if we lock up D.hall( unless we trade him) and Boley. i would think this is the best FA signing we had in a long time, and the draft would only add to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 GEORGIAfan (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)FalconFan13 (3/5/2008)Robert L (3/5/2008)Olympia Martin (3/5/2008)Actually why not both? Think about it like this and draft Jake LongLT - Jake LongLG - Justin BlaylockC - Todd McClure/Doug DatishRG - Maurice Williams <--- Pro Bowl talent at RGRT - Shane Olivea <--- Little better than Mo at RT and gives us someone Turner is familiar with.This point in time it looks really nice on paper...but how much are we talking about spending here? Boley NEEDS to be resigned along with a couple other RFA's. There also needs to be enough $$ in the rookie pool as well. That's Why I say I would take Shane-O over Mo Williams...Each of them are about 4 to 5 mil a year average. Which is reasonable. As of right now before any more new releases we are about 8-10 mil. So we could get those 2 at 4-5 mil a year. Then we could release Harrington, Brooking, Forney, Wiener, Horn Just by releasing those 5 which would be easily possible since we either got their replacement FA or drafted. We would get back 9-10 mil. Milloy would only save us about 800k so he's worth keeping. 9-10 mil + the annointed cap allowment would easily be enough the drafted players.agree, we actually have a few players we could release and get cap back to resign Boley. i personally think we need Maurice and hadnot( play center), because we are a run 1st team, and we could get a good LT( baker) in the 2nd, and a RT in the later rounds or stick with foster.( who wasnt bad at LT even).Man getting Maurice and hadnot would be sick, and if we lock up D.hall( unless we trade him) and Boley. i would think this is the best FA signing we had in a long time, and the draft would only add to it.Im actually a fan of McClure personally so i can't throw him out to dry i also like Datish . I also like Valesco for C so Hadnot would not be a must and could save us Cap space. Also as much as i like Hall i don't want him back if he costs more than 6 mil a year. Would rather use it to sign Boley and o-lineman. Jimmy Williams + Houston would be ok with me as starting corners and let them build experience together for much cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hadnot did not do much in Miami. That is why the young OL is not back with Parcells.Ideally, we would sign Mo Williams for the RG spot (and backup at RT). Draft Velasco to compete with Datish at OC and backup at OG.With the recent reinjury to Trey Lewis, DT is extremely thin. We should draft Atyba Rubin in the second round after drafting Dorsey/Ellis in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I'm not too keen on drafting two DTs in the first three picks. We still need offensive linemen and a QB and a MLB and...Maybe something like this:1. DT Ellis2A. QB Brohm/Henne/Flacco2B. OT Baker/Collins/Nicks3. DT Bryant/Okam4. MLB Goff/Hall?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Yes there are a lot of FA out thereThere are some Falcons to be re-signed mainly BOLEYThere are possibly 8 or 9 draft choices to signI has seen over and over on these boards the figure of $15M (a little less) as the $$$ available to do all of this.Well the Falcons have signed 4 FA and I believe it cost a little over $8M to do soso now there is roughly $7M --that's just about enough to cover a #3 draft pick. Where is the $$$ coming from for all these FAs everyone wants to get?Where is the $$$ coming from for Boley and other Falcons to re-sign?Where is the $$$ coming from for the other 7 or 8 draft picks?Talk is cheap but contracts are not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-rod Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I think that Grady Jackson is now a necessity. Unfortunately his agent has leverage, thanks to the Lewis re-injury, so we'd probably have to pay out a decent amount. But he'd be an ideal short-term fix for a year, until Lewis is 100% recovered in 2009. Apart from Grady, there's really very little out there on the FA market at DT. Robertson, from the Jets, could be acquired for a 4th rounder, but he's looking for a huge contract, which I'd rather not offer for someone who's no more than average.On the O-line, I'd be happy with either Maurice Williams, Rex Hadnot, or Ryan Diem. Also, the cap hit would be marginal, since it would enable us to cut Forney, saving us $3 mill or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 delaigle (3/5/2008)Yes there are a lot of FA out thereThere are some Falcons to be re-signed mainly BOLEYThere are possibly 8 or 9 draft choices to signI has seen over and over on these boards the figure of $15M (a little less) as the $$$ available to do all of this.Well the Falcons have signed 4 FA and I believe it cost a little over $8M to do soso now there is roughly $7M --that's just about enough to cover a #3 draft pick. Where is the $$$ coming from for all these FAs everyone wants to get?Where is the $$$ coming from for Boley and other Falcons to re-sign?Where is the $$$ coming from for the other 7 or 8 draft picks?Talk is cheap but contracts are notEveryone says this every year, but somehow every year everyone gets signed. YOu do know that there is a 'supplemental' rookie pool, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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