jdu00743 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Personally, I think we would be spoiled ROTTEN if Brohm fell all the way to us in the 2nd round...I feel like he is a top 10 pick...There is not a single thing Matt Ryan is better at than him.Brohm is better in just about every single aspect of being a QB:-Brohm has a better arm-Brohm is more mobile-Brohm makes less mistakes (same # of TD's with SEVEN less INT's)-Brohm is more accurate (65% comp vs. 59%)The only reason Ryan gets more publicity than him is because Boston College had a much better defense, and therefore they won more.Brohm should be a top 10 pick....I would love to get him in the 2nd...Even if we have to trade into the late 1st to get him I'm fine with that.He is going to be a much better pro than Ryan...There is not a single person here that can tell me why Ryan should even be a 1st round pick...Much less a top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 But but but Mike Mayock said so....:ermm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogfalcon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 jdu00743 (3/4/2008)Personally, I think we would be spoiled ROTTEN if Brohm fell all the way to us in the 2nd round...I feel like he is a top 10 pick...There is not a single thing Matt Ryan is better at than him.Brohm is better in just about every single aspect of being a QB:-Brohm has a better arm-Brohm is more mobile-Brohm makes less mistakes (same # of TD's with SEVEN less INT's)-Brohm is more accurate (65% comp vs. 59%)The only reason Ryan gets more publicity than him is because Boston College had a much better defense, and therefore they won more.Brohm should be a top 10 pick....I would love to get him in the 2nd...Even if we have to trade into the late 1st to get him I'm fine with that.He is going to be a much better pro than Ryan...There is not a single person here that can tell me why Ryan should even be a 1st round pick...Much less a top 5 pick.Quite elementary my dear Volunteer, what Mayock and Kiper say is the gospel according to Draft 3:16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzCliche Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Well. Brohm didnt play in a pro-style offense, and Ryan did. I dont really see how someone could say that Brohm has better arm either. I dont think there is any evidence to support that claim at all. I also think that Ryan is more of what you want in a body for a NFL QB too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twyntefour Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 its simple, ryan is viewed as a better qb simply because he is, brohm is terrible, probably the worst qb in this draft, extremely immoblie with very poor pocket presence. did well in a system that has proved to not work in the nfl (petrinos system last year). drafting him would be the demise of this franchise, he is probably worse than any qb currently in the NFL or this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidWest Falcon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 jdu00743 (3/4/2008)Personally, I think we would be spoiled ROTTEN if Brohm fell all the way to us in the 2nd round...I feel like he is a top 10 pick...There is not a single thing Matt Ryan is better at than him.Brohm is better in just about every single aspect of being a QB:-Brohm has a better arm-Brohm is more mobile-Brohm makes less mistakes (same # of TD's with SEVEN less INT's)-Brohm is more accurate (65% comp vs. 59%)The only reason Ryan gets more publicity than him is because Boston College had a much better defense, and therefore they won more.Brohm should be a top 10 pick....I would love to get him in the 2nd...Even if we have to trade into the late 1st to get him I'm fine with that.He is going to be a much better pro than Ryan...There is not a single person here that can tell me why Ryan should even be a 1st round pick...Much less a top 5 pick.Shhhhhh! Quit telling everybody :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I agree w/you, Jeff. But I also think Henne will be a better pro then Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Because he has a cooler nickname? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 grendel (3/4/2008)1989fan (3/4/2008)Because he has a cooler nickname?Matt "Interception" Ryan?lol. get it right man.....Its "Matty Ice"...MR Matty Ice to you hater. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRob215 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Brohm is the Brady Quinn of this year. He was the top QB and a top 5 player before the season, but because of this, it gives scouts more time to scrutinize him.Accuracy trumps arm strength IMO, and Brohm doesn't throw INTs like they're going outta style. Because of this Brohm is the better QB, and I would put Ryan in a tie with Flacco for 2nd best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 JRob215 (3/4/2008)Brohm is the Brady Quinn of this year. He was the top QB and a top 5 player before the season, but because of this, it gives scouts more time to scrutinize him.Accuracy trumps arm strength IMO, and Brohm doesn't throw INTs like they're going outta style. Because of this Brohm is the better QB, and I would put Ryan in a tie with Flacco for 2nd best.I think you put Henne in above Flacco and Ryan IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRob215 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Matthew Pritts (3/4/2008)JRob215 (3/4/2008)Brohm is the Brady Quinn of this year. He was the top QB and a top 5 player before the season, but because of this, it gives scouts more time to scrutinize him.Accuracy trumps arm strength IMO, and Brohm doesn't throw INTs like they're going outta style. Because of this Brohm is the better QB, and I would put Ryan in a tie with Flacco for 2nd best.I think you put Henne in above Flacco and Ryan IMO.I am not that high on Henne. I think he was too inconsistent in college, and he may be a solid QB in the NFL, but not a perennial pro bowler or anything. Just my opinion though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Is that like "Vanilla Ice"? I expect the same career trajectory.haha.could be. come out and take the world by storm, then fall flat on his face and become the laughing stock of his 'craft' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Brohm didn't look as good this year as he did last year.It also didn't help that Petirno didn't exactly prove the system Brohm plays in can work in the NFL.And this is the NFL. If you're trying to be a first round pick you better understand you're going under a microscope. This is ESPECIALLY true once you get into the all-star games and combine.What I find funny is Brohm and his agent thought he was a definite first round guy so he didn't do anything at the Senior Bowl. Then scouts really started breaking Brohm down and realized he wasn't first round material.To be honest some of it might have to do with how the NFL feels about Petirno. And I have no problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 statistically Brohm was worlds better this year than any previous year, including last year were some said he could have gone #1 overall.Brohms only problems are his durability and not being the 'fresh' name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skn Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I don't like either, but i would have to say that Ryan played in a tougher conference. I also don't think any NFL team is going to waste a top draft pick on any QB in this years draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidWest Falcon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 skn42067 (3/4/2008)I don't like either, but i would have to say that Ryan played in a tougher conference. I also don't think any NFL team is going to waste a top draft pick on any QB in this years draft.The Big East is no push-over conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 In my opinion Matt Ryan is a better leader than Brian Brohm. I think when you're taking a QB in the first and second you really have to take a hard look at intangibles, and I think Ryan has better intangibles than any QB in this draft.That said, I wouldn't want to spend a first or second round pick on any QB in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 JRob215 (3/4/2008)Matthew Pritts (3/4/2008)JRob215 (3/4/2008)Brohm is the Brady Quinn of this year. He was the top QB and a top 5 player before the season, but because of this, it gives scouts more time to scrutinize him.Accuracy trumps arm strength IMO, and Brohm doesn't throw INTs like they're going outta style. Because of this Brohm is the better QB, and I would put Ryan in a tie with Flacco for 2nd best.I think you put Henne in above Flacco and Ryan IMO.I am not that high on Henne. I think he was too inconsistent in college, and he may be a solid QB in the NFL, but not a perennial pro bowler or anything. Just my opinion though...Too inconsistent? Go look at his #'s then try to say that. B/c he wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 grendel (3/4/2008)Why isn't durability a concern for Ryan? He was hampered his entire Junior year with foot problems. Brohm's missed like 2 games his whole 4 years, and he went through his Senior year without any major injuries.Sorry, I have to ask....what is with you thinking I am this 'Ryan or bust' guy? I defended Brohm, and you throw Ryan in my face. I never mentioned Ryans name, or compared him to Brohm in my reply.....I know you hate the guy, but no reason to assume I am his embassador or something.I mentioned durability w Brohm because while he hasnt missed time, he has been hurt every season he played. Had some of his injuries not happened at the end of the season, he could have missed serious time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Last significant QB from Louisville was Johnny Unitas. That was over 50 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidWest Falcon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 To answer your question Grendel:West virginia :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidWest Falcon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 This topic is going to be debated untill one of the QB's proves themself in the NFL. IMHO Brohm will be the better QB but that does not mean Matt Ryan will not be good. I can honestly say that if we do get Ryan I will not throw a fit and blow up the MB's :P Matt R. has the tools to be a good one. Brohm does as well. It will be interesting to see who has the better career. Brohm's career numbers are better than Matt Ryans but people will debate that stats in college mean nothing. Only time will tell fellow Falcon fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRob215 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Matthew Pritts (3/4/2008)JRob215 (3/4/2008)Matthew Pritts (3/4/2008)JRob215 (3/4/2008)Brohm is the Brady Quinn of this year. He was the top QB and a top 5 player before the season, but because of this, it gives scouts more time to scrutinize him.Accuracy trumps arm strength IMO, and Brohm doesn't throw INTs like they're going outta style. Because of this Brohm is the better QB, and I would put Ryan in a tie with Flacco for 2nd best.I think you put Henne in above Flacco and Ryan IMO.I am not that high on Henne. I think he was too inconsistent in college, and he may be a solid QB in the NFL, but not a perennial pro bowler or anything. Just my opinion though...Too inconsistent? Go look at his #'s then try to say that. B/c he wasn't. All you have to look at is his senior year, where Michigan started 0-2. In those first two games (against Oregon and Appalachian St.) he completed around 50% of his passes and had 2 TDs and 2 INTs. It's not all about stats though, and if you look at Michigan's record during his 4 years, it was consistently mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Grendel,did you see my post?You dont need to reply, just wanted to make sure you saw it. I like conversating w you, and I dont want to see our replies get sour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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