Art Vandalay Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 From ESPN insider don't know if this has been posted. I like waht I hear about Coleman. Hutchins def sounds like a CB.Von Hutchins2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.Grade: 46 | KeyAlert: NoneComment: Hutchins is a slightly undersized corner that was picked up by the Texans after the Colts released him early in the season. He was signed in November to help a depleted Texans secondary, but pretty much was limited to special teams play. He has the straight line speed to cover on teams and showed willingness to get down and cover the punt or kickoff. As a corner he lacks the size and arm length to challenge taller wide receivers for the ball. The biggest question is going to be if he has enough speed and athleticism to compensate for his lack of size. If he had another two or three inches his speed and athleticism would make him a legitimate candidate to challenge for a spot again next year. He can pedal in man coverage and his hips open quickly when he needs to turn and run with the receiver. His burst to close or catch up when the receiver gains a step on him are questionable and could present the biggest challenge for coming years.Erik Coleman2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.Grade: 73 | KeyAlert: NoneComment: Coleman has been a solid, durable player over his three seasons in the league. He has 48 starts and has been consistently productive marking over 100 hits each season. Erik has average size for the safety position but is tough, instinctive and athletic. He reads well and is quick to fill the alley in run support. He plays with a good motor and is active to the ball. He is a solid tackler and will insert in piles. Coleman uses his hands well to separate or slip blockers to work through trash. He leverages the ball well in coverage and is best off the hash. He keeps his pads over his feet and plays with good body position on short and intermediate routes. He anticipates well to get a jump on the ball and shows good range to close effectively. Coleman has good hips and quickness to play effective man coverage versus inside receivers. He has natural ball skills and has been an effective playmaker in the Jets new defensive scheme. He has been a pleasant surprise as a solid core special teams player and starting safety after being drafted in the fifth round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pured-hallfan Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 In other words we got two good solid team players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmyarring Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 The Coleman report appears to be old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pickle Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 The Hutchins report looks old too...they talk about him as depth and a special teamer...he started 15 games last year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Von Hutchinshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_HutchinsSolid depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDash Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Von Hutchins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmithidoc Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Here is a newer review of Erik Coleman from ESPN Insider free agency tickerColeman took a step back in 2007, making fewer plays and playing less than he had in previous seasons. He was banged up a bit last season, which may partially explain the dropoff. He has average size and good athleticism. He shows great instincts to react to the ball. He plays with a good motor and makes many plays based on effort and toughness. He has natural ball skills and competes well when the ball is in the air. He has good short-area quickness, balance and agility in coverage. He has decent closing speed in run support, is a solid hitter and doesn't miss many tackles. He is athletic enough in man-to-man coverage against interior targets. He transitions well enough, anticipating stems and planting and closing fairly quickly in zone coverage. Coleman, coming off his fourth NFL season, is a solid player who will draw at least moderate interest in free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmithidoc Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Here's the review on Von HutchinsHutchins is a squat, compact cornerback who isn't afraid to be physical. He has a short frame and arms, but he is very tough and is more than capable of delivering a blow. He is a Cover 2-type corner who needs to be aggressive at the line and get his hands on a receiver to be effective. He has decent speed but can be beaten deep when left in single coverage. He played some safety in Houston but is more comfortable on the perimeter. Injuries forced Hutchins into the Texans' lineup last season, but ideally he would make a very good third cornerback, playing over the slot in nickel and dime packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 hutchins sounds like pretty good depth as a #3 guy. guess thats our veteran CB signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 esmithidoc (3/1/2008)Here's the review on Von HutchinsHutchins is a squat, compact cornerback who isn't afraid to be physical. He has a short frame and arms, but he is very tough and is more than capable of delivering a blow. He is a Cover 2-type corner who needs to be aggressive at the line and get his hands on a receiver to be effective. He has decent speed but can be beaten deep when left in single coverage. He played some safety in Houston but is more comfortable on the perimeter. Injuries forced Hutchins into the Texans' lineup last season, but ideally he would make a very good third cornerback, playing over the slot in nickel and dime packages.FIts with our new style of defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugger8 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 herr doktor (3/1/2008)esmithidoc (3/1/2008)Here's the review on Von HutchinsHutchins is a squat, compact cornerback who isn't afraid to be physical. He has a short frame and arms, but he is very tough and is more than capable of delivering a blow. He is a Cover 2-type corner who needs to be aggressive at the line and get his hands on a receiver to be effective. He has decent speed but can be beaten deep when left in single coverage. He played some safety in Houston but is more comfortable on the perimeter. Injuries forced Hutchins into the Texans' lineup last season, but ideally he would make a very good third cornerback, playing over the slot in nickel and dime packages.FIts with our new style of defense.That's exactly what I was thinking... to a T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck44442008@yahoo.com Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 pured-hallfan (3/1/2008)In other words we got two good solid team players.In other words we got two scrubs while every other team is signing high caliber vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 (3/1/2008)pured-hallfan (3/1/2008)In other words we got two good solid team players.In other words we got two scrubs while every other team is signing high caliber vets.Only if that how you wanna see it.Both are good, solid players. Good for depth and for the new defensive system that Smith wants to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Long© Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Statick (3/1/2008) (3/1/2008)pured-hallfan (3/1/2008)In other words we got two good solid team players.In other words we got two scrubs while every other team is signing high caliber vets.Only if that how you wanna see it.Both are good, solid players. Good for depth and for the new defensive system that Smith wants to run.I am with Statick on this one. We need depth as well as starters. And it sounds like they are trying to get some high end guys too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Assuming we eventually trade DeAngelo Hall, here's how our secondary looks as of right now:CB: Houston, Hutchins, Irons, Grimes, HarrisS: Milloy, Coleman, Williams, StoneWe can't be sure where the new staff will try to play Jimmy Williams - I think they should move him back to CB, the position he most expelled at in college.But in this situation, I think all we'd be looking for going into the draft is MAYBE on more CB and definitely another young S to groom.No CB at all if we keep D-Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenkinsandwhite09 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 (3/1/2008)pured-hallfan (3/1/2008)In other words we got two good solid team players.In other words we got two scrubs while every other team is signing high caliber vets.Well thats how the old Patriots got their FAs. they get the average players and turn them into solid starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since66 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 This signing and the powwow at the combine makes me think that we'll at least attempt to sign Hall to a deal if the price is right. Won't make me upset as long as we don't overpay. He's not worth top 5 CB money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Case 25 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 i like them both......they should be used well in the new Smith D.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prince213 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Looks like their building the Defense!! Defense wons Championships!!:w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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