texasbirdfan Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecut8 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 what? please explainall i know is that for a rb to have 10 year career, he can run no more than 400 times a year. more than that, and you got your next curtis martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him?Compared to a starting rb Turner hasn't had nearly the same number of hits or the wear and tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him?Compared to a starting rb Turner hasn't had nearly the same number of hits or the wear and tear.LOLthat's what I am taliking about a few hits more.It is the everyday life and the modern training that takes it's tollThe wear and tear / less hits theory is a myth born out of the boxing/ prize fighting world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him?Compared to a starting rb Turner hasn't had nearly the same number of hits or the wear and tear.LOLthat's what I am taliking about a few hits more.It is the everyday life and the modern training that takes it's tollThe wear and tear / less hits theory is a myth born out of the boxing/ prize fighting world.I disagree with you. Modern training has done more to extend the functional life of NFL players than anything else with the possible exception of the advances made in surgical techniques. Plus, most NFL teams don't go full out in practice after training camp. So Turner has lots of tread remaining on the tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him?Compared to a starting rb Turner hasn't had nearly the same number of hits or the wear and tear.LOLthat's what I am taliking about a few hits more.It is the everyday life and the modern training that takes it's tollThe wear and tear / less hits theory is a myth born out of the boxing/ prize fighting world.I disagree with you. Modern training has done more to extend the functional life of NFL players than anything else with the possible exception of the advances made in surgical techniques. Plus, most NFL teams don't go full out in practice after training camp. So Turner has lots of tread remaining on the tire.BS why does he have more tread? a few less hits in a game? come on. have you played contact sports? It is the training that is the wear and tear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)xnex (2/29/2008)texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)That wear and tear theory is suspect. Michael Turner has been hit maybe 300 less times than other rbs his tenure and age. Big Deal. How many times in practice and training camp someone gets hit far exceeds that. Michael Turner is TOO expensive as any free agent as a draftee. When their are a multitude of quality rbs in the draft. Why do you guys covet him?Compared to a starting rb Turner hasn't had nearly the same number of hits or the wear and tear.LOLthat's what I am taliking about a few hits more.It is the everyday life and the modern training that takes it's tollThe wear and tear / less hits theory is a myth born out of the boxing/ prize fighting world.I disagree with you. Modern training has done more to extend the functional life of NFL players than anything else with the possible exception of the advances made in surgical techniques. Plus, most NFL teams don't go full out in practice after training camp. So Turner has lots of tread remaining on the tire.BS why does he have more tread? a few less hits in a game? come on. have you played contact sports? It is the training that is the wear and tearYes I played contact sports and I don't know how you can doubtt he advances made in the training field. Much, MUCH more stretching and other exercises to increase flexibility. A better understanding of how muscle groups work together. And since you are obviously more knowledgeable than I am, please tell me how taking less hits over a perios of time does not mean that you've taken less damage. According to your theory (if I understand it correctly) LT and Turner would have the same amount of wear and tear if they came into the league at the same time and LT got 80% of the carries to Turners 20%. It makes no sense to assert that taking more hits somehow doesn't affect a players health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I could make a case then that since LT is playing more, he is less likely to get hurt because he is staying tuned.The plain and simple fact is that the body's break down due to age. It is a fact that older players get injured. It is an NFL fact that free agent RB's cost the cap space signiicantly more than a rookie. Having taken more football hits only increase your chance for injury. Taking less hits/ plays decreases your chance for a random injury. An older player taking more hits (fact: average NFL rb's last 4-1/2 years) has a greater chance for injury than a rookie based on the age factor. (see Developmental Physiology) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 T bird fan, Compare Turner to the RB's in this draft class and you will see three guys that may be as good....maybe. You have McF, Mendenhall and Stewart. All three will go in the first round. If you count the number of first rounders we have, you will see that we only have one. That makes first round picks too valuable to gamble. Turner is a known quantity. He is a fast, big man and knows pass protection. He makes good decisions and does not fumble often. He has been hit, but no excessively. So, in terms of veterans, he does not have a lot of wear and tear. Signing Turner would be a smart move. A better move than using our only first rounder on McFadden or Stewart or Mendenhall. Why? Because we will be able to use that first rounder on an OL or DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 texasbirdfan (2/29/2008)I could make a case then that since LT is playing more, he is less likely to get hurt because he is staying tuned.The plain and simple fact is that the body's break down due to age. It is a fact that older players get injured. It is an NFL fact that free agent RB's cost the cap space signiicantly more than a rookie. Having taken more football hits only increase your chance for injury. Taking less hits/ plays decreases your chance for a random injury. An older player taking more hits (fact: average NFL rb's last 4-1/2 years) has a greater chance for injury than a rookie based on the age factor. (see Developmental Physiology)Michael Turner has averaged 57 carries per season for the length of his career (4 years). Most "experts" agree that rb's really begin to break down around the age of 30. Turner is 25 years old, has only 20 more carries in his career than last years rookie of the year Adrian Peterson had in one season and is only 3-4 years older than Peterson. Yep you're right, Turner is shot. He'll be lucky to get the vet minimum. :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Carries for their first 4 years. Turner has not even had one years worth of carries. He has plenty left.Larry Johnson- 892L. Tomlinson- 1963C. Portis- 1258Ahman Green- 628E. James- 1184Michael Turner- 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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