swiftkick Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 With the start tomorrow of the free-agency signing period, it is Reese's job to upgrade the talent level on the roster and fill any holes he sees without disrupting the team harmony that was so crucial to the improbable playoff run.Inevitable player additions and defections will change the feel of the locker room, and it will be difficult to keep all those worker ants moving toward a common goal."In free agency, I just hope we bring in guys that want to win," linebacker Antonio Pierce Antonio Pierce said. "We don't need no negative attitudes. We don't need guys who can come and cause problems. We've got good team chemistry and a good thing going on here. As long as they come in here and adopt the Giants New York Giants attitude, we're great."That leads to one name that has surfaced prior to free agency that has piqued the interest of the Giants. Falcon corner back DeAngelo Hall is not a free agent, but he is on the trading block. He says the chances he'll return to Atlanta are "slim and none."An unquestioned talent and two-time Pro Bowler, Hall is only 24 years old, but his brief NFL career has been marked by more than the occasional outburst. An infamous sideline diatribe directed at unpopular coach Bobby Petrino led to a fine and partial suspension for Hall.It's not likely the Falcons would let Hall go for the Giants' first-round (31st overall) draft pick, but the issue of talent vs. attitude is a large part of the free-agent process."I don't know him at all," Pierce said of Hall. "I've played with him in the Pro Bowl, and that's about it. But as long as we bring in a guy that has the same mentality as the 53 guys we have on this team and fits well in the chemistry ... we don't need no more distractions, we don't need no more guys coming in with their own agendas."When Michael Strahan Michael Strahan heard rumblings about Hall, he hit the Internet and could not believe Hall was only 24."DeAngelo Hall would be a great fit for this team," Strahan said. "To be that talented at that age and have so much ahead of you, I think he's worth the risk of whatever you feel like the risk may be to get him, and what you have to give up."Reese had no problem in the seventh round of last year's draft taking a shot with Ahmad Bradshaw, an intriguing running-back prospect who was arrested twice in college. Reese did his research and made the call. That's the way he'll handle free-agent or trade scenarios as they develop."Sure, we try to research and predict the right fit," Reese said. "It's hard for one player to disrupt an entire team but one can quickly become two and two can quickly become three. We try to guard against that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I like how he says "to have that talent at that age" and says he's willing to give up anything to get him. Makes you wonder why our front office is so desperate to rid themselves of our best player? No matter what the Giants give up, it won't be enough for someone as good as D. Hall who is as young as D. Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pickle Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 A late 1st and 3rd....I'm good with that...no...I'm thrilled with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 mr pickle (2/28/2008)A late 1st and 3rd....I'm good with that...no...I'm thrilled with that.For a former 8th overall pick and a top 5 CB? I hope our GM doesn't have the same mentality as you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7979 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I wonder if Pierce was referring to Tiki in his last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 i bet tiki feels like ##### for leaving. no ring for you buddy!:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 falconva7 (2/28/2008)mr pickle (2/28/2008)A late 1st and 3rd....I'm good with that...no...I'm thrilled with that.For a former 8th overall pick and a top 5 CB? I hope our GM doesn't have the same mentality as you...You wont be able to get the kind of vaule for a former top 10 pick that you want....in this draft....a 1st and 3rd(even the giants picks) can get you some good Vaule...its alot of day one starters in the first 3 round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7979 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 "i bet tiki feels like ##### for leaving. no ring for you buddy! "That was a pretty big in your face. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 7979 (2/28/2008)"i bet tiki feels like ##### for leaving. no ring for you buddy! "That was a pretty big in your face. LOLlol yea it kinda was. i didnt like what he was saying about eli about not being a vocal leader because some players dont have to be vocal to be leaders. i never really liked tiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveboogie2 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 This is hilarious and yet another example of this horrible franchise chasing it's tail, but why is Atlanta the only NFL team that seemingly DOESN'T want Hall??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveboogie2 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 grendel (2/28/2008)aveboogie2 (2/28/2008)This is hilarious and yet another example of this horrible franchise chasing it's tail, but why is Atlanta the only NFL team that seemingly DOESN'T want Hall???We DO want him, but we have more pressing needs than a $10 million CB.Correct me if I'm wrong but Hall is still under contract, he hasn't demanded an extension nor has he threatened to holdout. You have an entire year to address other needs before paying Hall. Why give him away? If you believe you've brought structure to a franchise that has sorely lacked it for so long, why not allow your best players an opportunity to flourish under this mew regime before shipping them off?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty_bird_rison Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The front office should have already sat down with D-Hall and talked to him about where the team is headed and his potential role with the team. If they did do this then obviously they weren't on the same page on some important issues....if they haven't done this yet then they should all line up and let the fans pimp smack them. I think surely they talked with him before electing to shop him, they probably told him something like they reevaluate his long status with the team after this season when his contract runs out........everything goes well and you behave then we might resign you kind of thing. I don't blame Deangelo for demanding a new contract, and if I recall he originally wanted that deal to be done in Atlanta. If he ever reads this message board then he surely knows he's no longer wanted or appreciated in ATL........but I doubt he needed to hear that from the fans. The front office along with Blank must feel he is risk to be a cancer in the locker room and a constant reminder of the troubles the team has faced the last couple seasons. I haven't seen anything nor am I aware of anything Hall has done to warrant pushing him out. If you sign him and make him believe he is needed here......we could rebuild with him and that way in three years we have an elite shutdown corner in the prime of his carreer, possibly the best the league by then. Or, we can trade him and in three years no matter where we are as a franchise......we won't be guareented a top 5 shutdown corner with his athletic ability and attributes.......unless we luck up and end up with a Cromartie type (odds similar to winning the sate lottery) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 atljbo (2/28/2008)falconva7 (2/28/2008)mr pickle (2/28/2008)A late 1st and 3rd....I'm good with that...no...I'm thrilled with that.For a former 8th overall pick and a top 5 CB? I hope our GM doesn't have the same mentality as you...You wont be able to get the kind of vaule for a former top 10 pick that you want....in this draft....a 1st and 3rd(even the giants picks) can get you some good Vaule...its alot of day one starters in the first 3 roundCorrection: you MIGHT be able to get good value. We could just as easily draft the second coming of Michael Jenkins with those 1st and 3rd round picks, aka a guy that everyone says will be long time contributor but is a bust.My point is the draft is unpredictable and under no circumstances should you trade a SURE-THING who is the cream of the crop at their position for unproven rookies. The only way you trade a sure-thing is if you get one in return. Don't believe me? A couple years ago the Vikings traded Randy Moss (who was very productive while there) for something like Napoleon Harris and the 7th overall pick in the draft. They can't mess up the 7th overall pick right? The 7th overall pick was Troy Williamson. No one that the Vikings got from that trade is going to be on the Vikings after Wiliamson gets traded to the Jags and meanwhile, Moss just broke the record for most receiving TDs in a year. You take care of your best young players, you don't ship them out for draft picks because of the risk in draft picks. I'd rather pay $10 mill. for a player who I KNOW is good than $5 mill. for a late first rounder who might be a bust and will only eat up cap and roster space for the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveboogie2 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 grendel (2/28/2008)aveboogie2 (2/28/2008)grendel (2/28/2008)aveboogie2 (2/28/2008)This is hilarious and yet another example of this horrible franchise chasing it's tail, but why is Atlanta the only NFL team that seemingly DOESN'T want Hall???We DO want him, but we have more pressing needs than a $10 million CB.Correct me if I'm wrong but Hall is still under contract, he hasn't demanded an extension nor has he threatened to holdout. You have an entire year to address other needs before paying Hall. Why give him away? If you believe you've brought structure to a franchise that has sorely lacked it for so long, why not allow your best players an opportunity to flourish under this mew regime before shipping them off??3 things:1) He did demand an extension2) He said if he didn't get one he wasn't going to play3) If he does play out his contract, then he walks away for nothing after our rebuilding year where we're not competitive anywayThanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that.Could the franchise tag not be applied after Hall finishes his contract? At this point, there's not another Falcon that in their wildest dream that could be considered for the franchise tag, well unless TD screws up resigning Boley. The option of trading Hall is available next year just as it is this year, the difference is, you've had the opportunity to fill other holes on the team without adding another hole at CB one of your best players for draft picks.If the Giants can find the money to pay him, the Falcons can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecut8 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 bossFALCON (2/28/2008)i bet tiki feels like ##### for leaving. no ring for you buddy!:PYep, shows him right. Karma comes back to bite you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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