Vanquish Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Before you hit reply and call me a newb, I have been on this board a looooong time. Unfortunately, my account was not migrated and I can not use my old screename of "Silverback". Anyway, Hall is a good player. However, he is NOT a "Future HOFer" or "the best defensive player we have" as I have seen stated. If you had to pick out best defensive player, you would be hard pressed to pick anyone other than Michael Boley or a healthy Abe. Hall is a GOOD corner that thinks much more of his skills than most others do that are not wearing rose colored glasses. He gets burnt ALOT because he loses his cool or takes too many chances. He has a value right now, on the market... he does not want to stay, and I for one, don't want to keep him if he doesn't want to stay... that is an ugly situation. We have a ton of issues to address on this team... having Hall and his attitude does not help. Dimitroff will trade him, because he has to. We can get Foxworth from DEN in FA, he will be just as effective as Hall. Let him go, he is not Champ, McCallister, Mathis or even Samuel. He is a top 10 corner that is VERY unhappy being here, get a solid 1st and a player for him and move on. If he stays... fine, I like watching him play. However, often I cringe on the deep ball because I've seen him get burnt too many times. On the other hand, if he gets shipped out... it is for a reason. He may be a great community asset for Atlanta, but is it possible his attitude is a negative in the lockeroom? Make your call Thomas... Blank brought you in to bring an aire of expectation to this franchise. We are expecting something that we can be proud of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolikewhoa Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Vanquish (2/27/2008) However, often I cringe on the deep ball because I've seen him get burnt too many times.If we get rid of him, get used to seeing that a lot more.We don't have the pass rush or the secondary to be giving up a Pro Bowl CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoon Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 need to read a statement from someone who's name stand for DEFEATED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formul8or Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 When Hall is burnt it's usually our lack of a pass rush. In '04 Hall was just a rookie and played very well and we led the league in sacks. In 05-06 Hall was pretty good and we had a fair pass rush. Last year we had NO pass rush and Hall still didn't get burnt much.He's only 24, getting better, and next year we should have a much improved pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacksburgHokie Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 In all seriousness, there's no longer any true shutdown corners in the NFL - all of the rule changes to help the offense make it impossible.Even Bailey gets burned regularly - people just choose to ignore it. I remember back on MNF this season where he got toasted by a TE running a wheel route. Should a shutdown corner let that happen? Absolutely not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsstomp Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ok before you posted this, u should of thought about what u said...dhall is 24 years old right, dhall has been to 2 probowls right..he still has at least 10 or more years of play left in him..unless you followed champ bailey and other elite corners in this league, i bet any kind of money they didnt start out as a "shutdown corner"..the players you named have been in the league for a while, while dhall is still young and has very top notch talent. at the age of 24, how in **** can u say he will not be a hall of famer? are u looking into the future and actually know what stats he will put up. come back in 10 years and then say if he will be a hall of famer or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I'm sorry, 1 TD given up in 16 games and he went up against some of the best, how is that not a shutdown corner? You're nuts if you don't think he's top 5 in the league. Teams ALWAYS pick on our 2nd corner because they fear Hall. Just imagine life with Jason Webster and Lewis Sanders starting at each spot and you'll start to get the picture of life without Hall... But hey, we'll save cap space right!? As long as we have that cap space, I don't mind giving up 3 50+ yard TDs a game. When we said he was available for trade SEVEN teams were seriously interested in him, including the Super Bowl Champs and the first seed in the NFC last year... I guess that's because D. Hall just sucks right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Vanquish (2/27/2008)Before you hit reply and call me a newb, I have been on this board a looooong time. Unfortunately, my account was not migrated and I can not use my old screename of "Silverback". Anyway, Hall is a good player. However, he is NOT a "Future HOFer" or "the best defensive player we have" as I have seen stated. If you had to pick out best defensive player, you would be hard pressed to pick anyone other than Michael Boley or a healthy Abe. Hall is a GOOD corner that thinks much more of his skills than most others do that are not wearing rose colored glasses. He gets burnt ALOT because he loses his cool or takes too many chances. He has a value right now, on the market... he does not want to stay, and I for one, don't want to keep him if he doesn't want to stay... that is an ugly situation. We have a ton of issues to address on this team... having Hall and his attitude does not help. Dimitroff will trade him, because he has to. We can get Foxworth from DEN in FA, he will be just as effective as Hall. Let him go, he is not Champ, McCallister, Mathis or even Samuel. He is a top 10 corner that is VERY unhappy being here, get a solid 1st and a player for him and move on. If he stays... fine, I like watching him play. However, often I cringe on the deep ball because I've seen him get burnt too many times. On the other hand, if he gets shipped out... it is for a reason. He may be a great community asset for Atlanta, but is it possible his attitude is a negative in the lockeroom? Make your call Thomas... Blank brought you in to bring an aire of expectation to this franchise. We are expecting something that we can be proud of...If Champ or Samual played for this team last season,your post today would be about them.Same post different name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Obviously, he didn't put me thought in to this before posting. I could understand if no one was interested but it must say something about his play if 7 teams wanted him on their team. You don't trade away YOUNG Pro Bowl players for draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINIK4L Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 REV.2000 (2/27/2008)NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... his name is vanquish. that would mean 'to defeat' or 'to conquer' if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconva7 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 sandman (2/27/2008)Vanquish (2/27/2008)Before you hit reply and call me a newb, I have been on this board a looooong time. Unfortunately, my account was not migrated and I can not use my old screename of "Silverback". Anyway, Hall is a good player. However, he is NOT a "Future HOFer" or "the best defensive player we have" as I have seen stated. If you had to pick out best defensive player, you would be hard pressed to pick anyone other than Michael Boley or a healthy Abe. Hall is a GOOD corner that thinks much more of his skills than most others do that are not wearing rose colored glasses. He gets burnt ALOT because he loses his cool or takes too many chances. He has a value right now, on the market... he does not want to stay, and I for one, don't want to keep him if he doesn't want to stay... that is an ugly situation. We have a ton of issues to address on this team... having Hall and his attitude does not help. Dimitroff will trade him, because he has to. We can get Foxworth from DEN in FA, he will be just as effective as Hall. Let him go, he is not Champ, McCallister, Mathis or even Samuel. He is a top 10 corner that is VERY unhappy being here, get a solid 1st and a player for him and move on. If he stays... fine, I like watching him play. However, often I cringe on the deep ball because I've seen him get burnt too many times. On the other hand, if he gets shipped out... it is for a reason. He may be a great community asset for Atlanta, but is it possible his attitude is a negative in the lockeroom? Make your call Thomas... Blank brought you in to bring an aire of expectation to this franchise. We are expecting something that we can be proud of...If Champ or Samual played for this team last season,your post today would be about them.Same post different name.WELL said! Asante plays on a team that was 2nd in the league in sacks last year. If I'm not mistaken the Falcons ranked somewhere in the 20's? That makes a world of a difference for a cornerback. This is a big reason why I don't want Samuel on our team either, because I think a lot of what makes him look good is the pass rush in NE.D. Hall needs to be resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upandcumingband Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 u fool he is a futrue hall of famer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecut8 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 PacMan Jones is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemDirtyBirds4 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 the thing i know is that when he is on the field teams do not like to throw at him. The best example i have for this is the Rams game this year, which i was at. After Hall had given up a couple of catches the Rams started to move Holt and Bruce around and picking on Houston the rest of the game. When the ballwas going to Holt he lined up on Houston and same went for Bruce. I am not trying to bash Houston in any way, i think he will be great in a few seasons, i am just pointing out that the Rams wanted nothing to do with Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I disagree......................he's not even a GOOD player. He's so **** overated it's laughable.Good riddance to this loud mouthed punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 falkonX7 (2/27/2008)REV.2000 (2/27/2008)NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... his name is vanquish. that would mean 'to defeat' or 'to conquer' if I'm not mistaken.IF YOU ARE VANQUISHED ....... YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .... Don't take my word for it, get a dictionary.............. NO MATTER WHAT THE NAME ...... I SAID VANQUISHED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemDirtyBirds4 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Bring It (2/27/2008)I disagree......................he's not even a GOOD player. He's so **** overated it's laughable.Good riddance to this loud mouthed punk.NICE LOGIC!!! Any facts to back that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 "NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... " I believe this was your original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Bring It (2/27/2008)I disagree......................he's not even a GOOD player. He's so **** overated it's laughable.Good riddance to this loud mouthed punk.YOU GOT A FEW ISSUES THERE KID ...... NO MATTER ..... THE GUYS STILL HERE ...:w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 DLS (2/27/2008)"NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... " I believe this was your original post.IT WAS .... I'M THE ONE CALLING HIM VANQUISHED ..... DO YOU GET IT NOW? OH BROTHER. THE MADDEN GAME IS SLOWING YOU GUYS DOWN .....:w00t::w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_redd21 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yeah you really should have thought before you posted...I will definitely hate to see hall go if he leaves... He's a great player and it's sad that some people don't realize that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Bring It (2/27/2008)I disagree......................he's not even a GOOD player. He's so **** overated it's laughable.Good riddance to this loud mouthed punk.No one gives a s### about your personnalfeeling.This is the NFL GROWUP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 DLS (2/27/2008)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"NOT A VERY SMART FIRST POST. YOU CAN'T STOP ANYONE FROM CALLING HIM A SHUT DOWN CORNER. JUST AS NO ONE CAN STOP YOU FROM CALLING YOURSELF "VANQUISHED." WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED .................... "I believe this was your original post.IT WAS .... I'M THE ONE CALLING HIM VANQUISHED ..... DO YOU GET IT NOW? OH BROTHER. THE MADDEN GAME IS SLOWING YOU GUYS DOWN ..... Edited: Today @ 11:40 AM by REV.2000 My reply was being written before the editing of your post and based on your original reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItDownHomeCuz Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hall is a top ten corner in the league, but shut down? I am a huge DeAngelo fan but he is far from shut down, he is too aggressive and is often caught biting on double moves and against top competition he seems very inconsistent, shut down Steve Smith (I will still maintain that did happen) shut down T.O. once but got smoked the second time, and not performing great against Chad Johnson. IMO the money would be better suited elsewhere (especially considering our move to the cover two) but I wish DeAngelo well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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