For those of you that want to invest $35 mil in a RB(McFadden)...

[g-dawg]

With so many "impact" players getting franchised, I'm starting to just think "what the ****" and let's go after Michael Turner - "Turner the Burner" is fast but not as Fast as Run DMC - however, Turner is much thicker than McFadden and will be a better power runner in Mike Mularkey's system.

I would guess it would take a $40million dollar contract and 5years to get a deal done. You could backload some salary in that last year to make it a virtual 4 year deal. Turner is 26 now so this would take him up to age 30 where RB's start losing their stride.

This would free up the first round pick and others to avoid the RB position. Also, Michael Turner is a "known commodity" in the NFL and his game translates for sure and is not "projected" as to how he will play in NFL. Also Michael Turner is a power runner with speed so he is perfect for Mike Mularkey's system.

I was not originally for signing Michael Turner but free agency has gotten so "skinny" with all the franchise tags that there is very little left over and Turner is high quality....

what say you? if the money gets stupid for Turner, then we just "bow out"...

[FalconFan21]

I wouldn't be opposed to signing Turner. He and Norwood would be one of the best RB tandems in the NFL. But I would prefer getting Jonathan Stewart if we trade Hall and get a 1st round pick.

[Rev.Jesse Jackson.]

Well in other news get ready for the rain tomorrow.

[iDash]

I think we ought to get a kicker for 35 million,

the price is set for the third pick,

i Believe!

Plus,

We would be saving money,

really,

if you think about,

he should go number 1!

[g-dawg]

Rev.Jesse Jackson. (2/25/2008)

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Well in other news get ready for the rain tomorrow.

I was going to say something but don't want to get banned by the mods......so, never mind

[Rev.Jesse Jackson.]

g-dawg (2/25/2008)

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Rev.Jesse Jackson. (2/25/2008)

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Well in other news get ready for the rain tomorrow.

I was going to say something but don't want to get banned by the mods......so, never mind

O we don't have mods anymore

[halsey]

$35 mill is just the guarenteed money. The full contract will be around $60 mill. Teams don't draft a player that high and not expect him to be there for the full term of the contract, at least. No thanks on $60 mill to McFadden.

[g-dawg]

Halsey,

you did not read the post - i'm saying sign Michael Turner-not McFadden. And, your wrong - on most NFL contracts, they are "back-loaded" that is why most players either get cut in last year of their contracts or re-structure.

[sporkdevil]

Not a bad idea. I wasn't overly impressed with him this year, but he is a very good RB. McFadden has much more upside, but Turner really would be a good pickup. I had actually forgotten about him becoming a FA. I would like to pick him up, and we could get an OT/DT with our 3rd pick. I like that idea, and I would give that money to Turner.

[Return-of-the-Falcon]

Its not a bad idea, and it makes alot of sense...

Id love to sign Julius Jones instead though, and also bring in Flozell adams...

Then we could have a draft like this...

1.Glenn Dorsey/Sedric Ellis... in that order..

2a. Brian Brohm/Chad Henne/Joe Flacco...again in that order

2b.Carl Nicks...Who could play RG or RT...

3.Phillip Wheeler/Johnathon Goff

4.Kevin Smith ....not sure if he'll be here though.

but our line would look like this

Adams/Blaylock/Mclure/Nicks/Clabo

[blizzard_falcon]

I'd be more than happy to spend that kind of money on Michael Turner at this point, because the free agent class is a lot weaker now that a lot of our prime targets have been franchised or re-signed.

That way we can pick J. Long/Dorsey/Ellis with the #3 pick and then get our QB of choice in the 2nd round.

[Falconfan4197]

It would make a lot more sense to me to pick up Turner for the cheaper price. Especially if he is a guy that can pound the ball. We need more of a power back to stick it in when we get in the red zone. We had one of the worst if not the worst red zone offense last season. DMC looks like a great runner when he has a little bit of room, but he often went down right after getting hit. We need someone that will keep their legs moving for the couple extra yards. It would also make sense to pick up DMC for the sole purpose of trading him for a proven player and a few more picks.

[g-dawg]

virginiafalcon (2/26/2008)

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I'd be more than happy to spend that kind of money on Michael Turner at this point, because the free agent class is a lot weaker now that a lot of our prime targets have been franchised or re-signed.

That way we can pick J. Long/Dorsey/Ellis with the #3 pick and then get our QB of choice in the 2nd round.

YES VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry, couldn't resist! :P

this is a "winning move" if the dollars are right.....

[g-dawg]

Falconfan4197 (2/26/2008)

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It would make a lot more sense to me to pick up Turner for the cheaper price. Especially if he is a guy that can pound the ball. We need more of a power back to stick it in when we get in the red zone. We had one of the worst if not the worst red zone offense last season. DMC looks like a great runner when he has a little bit of room, but he often went down right after getting hit. We need someone that will keep their legs moving for the couple extra yards. It would also make sense to pick up DMC for the sole purpose of trading him for a proven player and a few more picks.

totally agree 100%

[halsey]

g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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Halsey,

you did not read the post - i'm saying sign Michael Turner-not McFadden. And, your wrong - on most NFL contracts, they are "back-loaded" that is why most players either get cut in last year of their contracts or re-structure.

Yes, I know what you said and you're wrong. Teams do not draft players in the first round and then back load them with the intention of the player not playing through the full contract. That's vet players. Why would a team draft a player and then not expect him to be there a long time....

[Falconfan4197]

Another reason i would not like to see us pick up DMC is because i would like to see what Norwood could do as a every down back.

[g-dawg]

halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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Halsey,

you did not read the post - i'm saying sign Michael Turner-not McFadden. And, your wrong - on most NFL contracts, they are "back-loaded" that is why most players either get cut in last year of their contracts or re-structure.

Yes, I know what you said and you're wrong. Teams do not draft players in the first round and then back load them with the intention of the player not playing through the full contract. That's vet players. Why would a team draft a player and then not expect him to be there a long time....

Halsey,

I was talking about a contract for Michael Turner in my post......not McFadden.......said we would give Turner a 5 year deal that would really be a 4 year deal - 5 years and $40million...

[halsey]

g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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Halsey,

Halsey,

I was talking about a contract for Michael Turner in my post......not McFadden.......said we would give Turner a 5 year deal that would really be a 4 year deal - 5 years and $40million...

Your thread title clearly mentions "(McFadden)"

Maybe you should read your own title.

[Mr. Offseason]

or we could just not waste 35 million on a rb when this class is the deepest it has been in all the years i have been following the draft (not that many, but it is still a super deep RB class). lets get good value and pass on mcfadden and turner. i dont want anything to do with either of them, not in free agency or with a top 3-5 pick.

[blizzard_falcon]

halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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Halsey,

Halsey,

I was talking about a contract for Michael Turner in my post......not McFadden.......said we would give Turner a 5 year deal that would really be a 4 year deal - 5 years and $40million...

Your thread title clearly mentions "(McFadden)"

Maybe you should read your own title.

The thread states, "For those of you that want to invest $35 mil in a RB(McFadden)...

," and the first post goes on to explain how we could probably get Michael Turner for much less. He's obviously talking about how we should get Turner in FA over McFadden in the draft because Turner is near-equal value, PLUS there is no equivalent to Dorsey/Ellis available in FA...

[iDash]

Yea , 35 to 60 million, i agree, lets give it to the highly competitive Jake!

No, lets give Ryan 35 to 60 million, so we can save money on a non-starting QB!

Well, Gholston would be worth 35 to 60 million, he can play 3 positions and he beat the unbeatable Jake!

Oh the Ut,

thats right UTs,

they are worth 35 to 60 million, sure

one has injuries concerns after cheapshot from Auburn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqiLlOybz9s

And Ellis, he is to small, too, and he is short!

Chris Long wont be there, but I would get him top monies.

He killed the cone drills,

He was the quickest!

Well, to me, it should be a cheap RB, that should be getting number 1 monies!

[outlaw87]

If we go into the draft with Turner and Norwood on our books, we no longer hold the highly sought after McFadden pick. Teams wont try to trade for our pick because they know he will be around at 4, and instead the Raiders are in the best seat.

I wouldn't mind Turner, but only AFTER the draft or after we have traded our pick.

[halsey]

virginiafalcon (2/26/2008)

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halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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halsey (2/26/2008)

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g-dawg (2/26/2008)

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The thread states, "for those who want to invest $35 million in McFadden,"

:laugh: when you advance past 2nd grade grammar you'll learn that putting quotes around what someone said means quoting exactly what they said and not changing it. I know what he said and I made the simple point that McFadden would actually cost a lot more than 35 mill. It's not that hard. If you're not smart enough toi understand, that's your problem. Quit being the guy who needs things explained over and over.

[Michael Skelton]

Rev.Jesse Jackson. (2/25/2008)

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Well in other news get ready for the rain tomorrow.

I am sorry that it always seems to be rain on the horizon for you. How much it must suck, to be you. I tried to defend you last night man. You should try to alter some of your views.

[blizzard_falcon]

"when you advance past 2nd grade grammar you'll learn that putting quotes around what someone said means quoting exactly what they said and not changing it. I know what he said and I made the simple point that McFadden would actually cost a lot more than 35 mill. It's not that hard. If you're not smart enough toi understand, that's your problem. Quit being the guy who needs things explained over and over."

What's with your need to insult everyone tonight?

And, for your information, I'm a college professor and teach writing and grammar every day of my life. You don't want to start this argument.

I don't need anything explained to me except the fact that whatever argument you're trying to develop is pointless. We all know that McFadden will cost more than Turner; that's the entire point of this thread to begin with.