etherdome Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 It will not happen until draft day. But, you can bet that Jones has his plans. He could not stop smiling after McFadden ran his 40 in 4.27 seconds. He envisions a second coming of the holy trinity (Aikman, Smith, Irvin). To make that happen, he needs Darren.....he wants it bad. Why would JJ come to ATL for the trade? He is a business man that is accustomed to judging risk and benefit. He will not trade with Parcells because the contract cost of a first overall pick is outrageous. He knows that Parcells can not fool around and draft a RB with so many other needs. He also knows that no one is crazy enough to move into the first selection for Darren.The Rams present a problem. They could trade down with the Raiders and still get a player that will fill a need. The problem is that the Raiders had the first pick last year and should be careful taking on another huge contract on a rookie. Al Davis is crazy enough to pull the trade, so the second pick is the tricky part of Jones' job.If McFadden is still on the board for the third pick, I am pretty certain that Jerry Jones will come calling. He knows that Al Davis wants McFadden, so this pick is the last time he will have to add his dream RB. I would expect him to offer both first rounders. Dimitroff will have this scenario worked out ahead of time. I wonder what he will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Give me both first's, Barber, and next years first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 again understand people it going to take more than both of dallas first rounders to get us to trade the #3 pick, its going to take closer to both there 1st's there second and barber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 that i can see.makes a lot of since,so what are their picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGA_DAWG46 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Where # is Dallas both first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 UGA_DAWG46 (2/24/2008)Where # is Dallas both first round?22 and 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neki Ecko Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 So in other words, Cowboys would have to give up both of their first rounds picks, second and Barber to get up there to get DMAC, that is way too much to get after one person but it would go the Falcons way because you get a bruiser RB, and 5 picks in 2 rounds to do anything you want(OL,OB,DL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Neki Ecko (2/24/2008)So in other words, Cowboys would have to give up both of their first rounds picks, second and Barber to get up there to get DMAC, that is way too much to get after one person but it would go the Falcons way because you get a bruiser RB, and 5 picks in 2 rounds to do anything you want(OL,OB,DL).thats what I am saying. And with DMC's 40 2day, Jerry Jones might do it.:w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 i can see dallas tradeing vthere 2 1st round picks...2009 1st round pick and Bobby Carpenteri think jerry jones will want to keep marion barber........i would still take that trade thothink about it this way...this draft is full of starters in the late 20sthen most likely we will have a top 15 pick next year and very possibly a top 10 pick....we will have to speand close to 30 million in guarenteed money in back to back season if we dont do this tradeone last thing....if we had dallas 2009 draft pick it is so much we could do with it...with our pick we could get MLB 6'3 250lbs Rey Maualuga....and with dallas pick if we wanted to finish up our O-Line we could draft....LT/RT 68 350lbs Phil Loadholt, or Guard 6'7 351lbs Herman JohnsonWe can get alot of value with those 3 picks.......we can get 3 10 year starts and thats what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 brvslugger10 (2/24/2008)Give me both first's, Barber, and next years first.Wont happen, it above the points list. His 2 firsts and Barber would do it though and a lower round pick. Look at the past at Dallas, they traded hershal walker to the vikings for a ton of picks, where they got Emmit smith and that trade set them up for super bowls. This trade could be Jerry Jones undoing and our way back to the playoffs fast. Dmac could be a bust, let jerry find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Wont happen, it above the points list. His 2 firsts and Barber would do it though and a lower round pick. Look at the past at Dallas, they traded hershal walker to the vikings for a ton of picks, where they got Emmit smith and that trade set them up for super bowls. This trade could be Jerry Jones undoing and our way back to the playoffs fast. Dmac could be a bust, let jerry find out. Fine with me. As long as we can pry away both of their firsts AND Barber. Maybe a another 3rd could be the other pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 brvslugger10 (2/24/2008)Give me both first's, Barber, and next years first. He's not giving up Barber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Legion (2/24/2008)brvslugger10 (2/24/2008)Give me both first's, Barber, and next years first. He's not giving up Barber.That was in the original Deal and I wouldn't take the deal with out barber. PERIOD. :PJerrys got to lose something, the falcons are in the drivers seat, For once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 He's not giving up Barber.Would D-Hall do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 brvslugger10 (2/24/2008)Wont happen, it above the points list. His 2 firsts and Barber would do it though and a lower round pick. Look at the past at Dallas, they traded hershal walker to the vikings for a ton of picks, where they got Emmit smith and that trade set them up for super bowls. This trade could be Jerry Jones undoing and our way back to the playoffs fast. Dmac could be a bust, let jerry find out. Fine with me. As long as we can pry away both of their firsts AND Barber. Maybe a another 3rd could be the other pick.yeah,he said he would give him up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ethan Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 bgarcia28 (2/24/2008)It will not happen until draft day. But, you can bet that Jones has his plans. He could not stop smiling after McFadden ran his 40 in 4.27 seconds. He envisions a second coming of the holy trinity (Aikman, Smith, Irvin). To make that happen, he needs Darren.....he wants it bad. Why would JJ come to ATL for the trade? He is a business man that is accustomed to judging risk and benefit. He will not trade with Parcells because the contract cost of a first overall pick is outrageous. He knows that Parcells can not fool around and draft a RB with so many other needs. He also knows that no one is crazy enough to move into the first selection for Darren.The Rams present a problem. They could trade down with the Raiders and still get a player that will fill a need. The problem is that the Raiders had the first pick last year and should be careful taking on another huge contract on a rookie. Al Davis is crazy enough to pull the trade, so the second pick is the tricky part of Jones' job.If McFadden is still on the board for the third pick, I am pretty certain that Jerry Jones will come calling. He knows that Al Davis wants McFadden, so this pick is the last time he will have to add his dream RB. I would expect him to offer both first rounders. Dimitroff will have this scenario worked out ahead of time. I wonder what he will do.Oakland will trip over themselves to get to the podium if they have a chance at Chris Long. If he doesn't go first (which he will), then if Oakland trades up, it won't be for McFadden. McFadden will be there when the Falcons select and they will take him unless they trade with Dallas. Oakland isn't a concern thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Oakland will trip over themselves to get to the podium if they have a chance at Chris Long. If he doesn't go first (which he will), then if Oakland trades up, it won't be for McFadden. McFadden will be there when the Falcons select and they will take him unless they trade with Dallas. Oakland isn't a concern thought I would def. trade our pick to Dallas for their two first rounders, Barber, and a 3rd or 4th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dill Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 if they are going to trade up for mcfadden they are gonna have to include Barber because they cant pay both Mcfadden and Barber at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 brvslugger10 (2/24/2008)Give me both first's, Barber, and next years first.They could keep next years 1st and i would still do that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGA_DAWG46 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 atljbo (2/24/2008)i can see dallas tradeing vthere 2 1st round picks...2009 1st round pick and Bobby Carpenteri think jerry jones will want to keep marion barber........i would still take that trade thothink about it this way...this draft is full of starters in the late 20sthen most likely we will have a top 15 pick next year and very possibly a top 10 pick....we will have to speand close to 30 million in guarenteed money in back to back season if we dont do this tradeone last thing....if we had dallas 2009 draft pick it is so much we could do with it...with our pick we could get MLB 6'3 250lbs Rey Maualuga....and with dallas pick if we wanted to finish up our O-Line we could draft....LT/RT 68 350lbs Phil Loadholt, or Guard 6'7 351lbs Herman JohnsonWe can get alot of value with those 3 picks.......we can get 3 10 year starts and thats what we needAre you kidding me BOBBY CARPENTER? I think Dallas fans would agree with me, he is a bust. Even the expert say the Cowboys really reach for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireDawg85 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I really like us trading w/ Dallas. U don't know about McFadden, but you know about Barber. Plus Barber is only 24 years old and you get 2 1st rounds. and also IF, and I mean IF, we trade hall to NY for that pick, thats 3 picks in the 1st, 2 picks in the second, and you get Barber. Sign me up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixer Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Could the Rams take Run DMC and use him as leverage? They will definitely have the Raiders and Cowboys in the palms of their hands. What if they work out a deal with the Raiders and trade Run DMC for Chris Long (DE from VA) and a 3rd round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 tuggle (2/24/2008)again understand people it going to take more than both of dallas first rounders to get us to trade the #3 pick, its going to take closer to both there 1st's there second and barber!agreed.. dallas' two first don't equal the #3 overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxatlanta Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Barber is only worth the value of 1st round pick (needed to make this trade work) if we are able to extend him. Trading for a one year rental is idiotic for a team that isn't gonna compete for a championship. So, we would have to have some discussion with his agent about a contract before making this trade.In hockey they are debating rule changes to prevent teams from trading star players in the last year of their deal and then re-signing them after the season ends. This is what Jones would do to us if we traded for Barber without having an extension in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 2 firsts and Marcus Spears (DT) and I would pull the trigger. I dont think Barber will be moved in a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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