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anytime someone brings up a athletic guy,why is it so much hatred that he's black?it's not like we don't like white athletic players,it's just there are very few.people are people and haters are haters but ask any of them about what god said none of them will denie that he loves everyone,but,what but.blacks don't,white's don't what live in the same state,same country.i don't condone racism and it's clear on this board there are some racist people here.and that's sad,you know our race is very atletic and i'm proud to say it.

i'm a football guy and and stuff i and a lot of others see at need,we want that.VICK was the first black q.b. to make the roster and a.t.l is predominately black and just like white's we feel we should have the same opportunity.guys like miller,tolliver beat out the one black q.b. a.t.l. had back then,so naturally vick is a icon to us.seeing that bartkowski was to a lot of you,even i loved him so what's the big deal with a black q.b. or coach.guys we don't live in 1912 anymore so get use to the fact that this world is evolving and the minority(blacks,hispanics and others)have the ability some of you don't.not to say some do and those players we like.if there's a good q.b. with the ability to get away faster than an just pocket q.b.,you should want that guy to.

the game has changed into speed production and you should think about it before you thr ow mudd on that player.i,myself don't like ryan and for good reason.before this year how many people were looking at him to be a top q.b.any q.b. picked that high shouldn't be because f one great year.all the others has a body of work for more than just this year.i don't expect much change from one post but we do need to evaluate our team needs better than just black and white.............

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Twinblade (2/24/2008)
Does it matter? white players are fading out anyways and soon all the fans will have to get over a white QB or a black QB..But I will say this, I do not want another Vick...Run first throw crappy second.

that my friend is the level i'm at right now and you seem to be there too........

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Twinblade (2/24/2008)
Does it matter? white players are fading out anyways and soon all the fans will have to get over a white QB or a black QB..But I will say this, I do not want another Vick...Run first throw crappy second.

No such thing as a run first QB.

Even Vick passed the ball 70% of the time.

And he had some respectable numbers considering the circumstances he was dealing with. No other QB who can in top 10 in the league in passing TDs in 06 had nearly as poor a cast.

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Twinblade (2/24/2008)
Does it matter? white players are fading out anyways and soon all the fans will have to get over a white QB or a black QB..But I will say this, I do not want another Vick...Run first throw crappy second.

No such thing as a run first QB.

Even Vick passed the ball 70% of the time.

And he had some respectable numbers considering the circumstances he was dealing with. No other QB who can in top 10 in the league in passing TDs in 06 had nearly as poor a cast.

that's true,but no matter what if we pick a black q.b. like johnson,whom in my opinion proves to be a better pick than ryan.this board is gonna go crazy with racist blogs.

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bigpoon (2/24/2008)
anytime someone brings up a athletic guy,why is it so much hatred that he's black?it's not like we don't like white athletic players,it's just there are very few.people are people and haters are haters but ask any of them about what god said none of them will denie that he loves everyone,but,what but.blacks don't,white's don't what live in the same state,same country.i don't condone racism and it's clear on this board there are some racist people here.and that's sad,you know our race is very atletic and i'm proud to say it.

i'm a football guy and and stuff i and a lot of others see at need,we want that.VICK was the first black q.b. to make the roster and a.t.l is predominately black and just like white's we feel we should have the same opportunity.guys like miller,tolliver beat out the one black q.b. a.t.l. had back then,so naturally vick is a icon to us.seeing that bartkowski was to a lot of you,even i loved him so what's the big deal with a black q.b. or coach.guys we don't live in 1912 anymore so get use to the fact that this world is evolving and the minority(blacks,hispanics and others)have the ability some of you don't.not to say some do and those players we like.if there's a good q.b. with the ability to get away faster than an just pocket q.b.,you should want that guy to.

the game has changed into speed production and you should think about it before you thr ow mudd on that player.i,myself don't like ryan and for good reason.before this year how many people were looking at him to be a top q.b.any q.b. picked that high shouldn't be because f one great year.all the others has a body of work for more than just this year.i don't expect much change from one post but we do need to evaluate our team needs better than just black and white.............

I swear I'm reading egyptian hieroglyphics or something.

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bigpoon (2/24/2008)that's true,but no matter what if we pick a black q.b. like johnson,whom in my opinion proves to be a better pick than ryan.this board is gonna go crazy with racist blogs.
There would be very little of that. Would there be a few racist idiots who didn't like Johnson because he's black? Unfortunately yes....

Just like there are racist idiots who don't like Brooking because he's white or didn't like Schaub for the same reason.

No group has cornered the market on having racists in their midst.

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bigpoon (2/24/2008)that's true,but no matter what if we pick a black q.b. like johnson,whom in my opinion proves to be a better pick than ryan.this board is gonna go crazy with racist blogs.
There would be very little of that. Would there be a few racist idiots who didn't like Johnson because he's black? Unfortunately yes....

Just like there are racist idiots who don't like Brooking because he's white or didn't like Schaub for the same reason.

No group has cornered the market on having racists in their midst.[/quote

that's good but people still feel like blacks don't belong behind center.

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bigduke633 (2/24/2008)
How about a run best qb?Its not about color but the damage that mike did.I just think he screwed me as a falcons fan.If you think of him as a black qb he screwed you twice if that means anything to you as a falcons fan.

well,that's your opinion,but he's the only winning q.b. atlanta's ever had?how many people even looked at coming to atlanta before vick came much less wanted to be drafted here?

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Whoopie Goldberg once said (years ago pre Obama) that when asked why she wasn't supporting Jessie Jackson for president that white people had been voting for whites for years and look how that had worked out...

The point being that we shouldn't vote for someone just because our skin colors matched.

Vick polarized Atlanta because no one white could criticize him without being labeled a racist and no one black could support him without being accused of reverse racism.

It's a simple sad truth that will remain until we as "Americans" begin to judge each other based on the content of our "character" and not the color of our skin...

And be allowed to do so without fear of being labeled racist for doing so when we disagree.

Back to football...

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atlantaprodj (2/24/2008)
Whoopie Goldberg once said (years ago pre Obama) that when asked why she wasn't supporting Jessie Jackson for president that white people had been voting for whites for years and look how that had worked out...

The point being that we shouldn't vote for someone just because our skin colors matched.

Vick polarized Atlanta because no one white could criticize him without being labeled a racist and no one black could support him without being accused of reverse racism.

It's a simple sad truth that will remain until we as "Americans" begin to judge each other based on the content of our "character" and not the color of our skin...

And be allowed to do so without fear of being labeled racist for doing so when we disagree.

Back to football...

i agree.but a lot don't see that is what we all are AMERICANS.andif we want a team we all got to work together rather black or white,THE BEST MAN SHOULD WINNNNNN...

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bigduke633 (2/24/2008)
How about a run best qb?Its not about color but the damage that mike did.I just think he screwed me as a falcons fan.If you think of him as a black qb he screwed you twice if that means anything to you as a falcons fan.

well,that's your opinion,but he's the only winning q.b. atlanta's ever had?how many people even looked at coming to atlanta before vick came much less wanted to be drafted here?

Cornelius bennet,eugene robinson,tony martin,eric dickerson,ray buchanon,morten anderson,tim mcyer,Blah blah......vick didnt invent falcons football.vick might have the best winning percentage as a falcon if that means anything to you.Under blank he had more around him than other qbs.
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bigpoon (2/24/2008)
bigduke633 (2/24/2008)
How about a run best qb?Its not about color but the damage that mike did.I just think he screwed me as a falcons fan.If you think of him as a black qb he screwed you twice if that means anything to you as a falcons fan.

well,that's your opinion,but he's the only winning q.b. atlanta's ever had?how many people even looked at coming to atlanta before vick came much less wanted to be drafted here?

Cornelius bennet,eugene robinson,tony martin,eric dickerson,ray buchanon,morten anderson,tim mcyer,Blah blah......vick didnt invent falcons football.vick might have the best winning percentage as a falcon if that means anything to you.Under blank he had more around him than other qbs.

all out of their prime then, too.name someone in their prime and not mediocre?

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bigpoon (2/24/2008)
bigduke633 (2/24/2008)
Plenty of those guys were plenty good here.You will just snivel about something else.

and this coming from a guy that said get rid of buchannon he's always getting beat?

When did I say that?He had a couple of good years and a couple of bad ones.Why not make fun of my mom?Your just makeing garbage up.
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bigduke633 (2/24/2008)
Plenty of those guys were plenty good here.You will just snivel about something else.

and this coming from a guy that said get rid of buchannon he's always getting beat?

When did I say that?He had a couple of good years and a couple of bad ones.Why not make fun of my mom?Your just makeing garbage up.

well to me your still on the other side of the fence.tell me something,if j.j. is more productive than ryan,why do you lobby so much for him then?i like flacco to,but j.j. in a ex. football players eyes is the better chose.

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bigpoon (2/24/2008)
Eric Obraiden (2/24/2008)
Why does someone get banned for calling out mods or another poster, but this stuff is always allowed on?

does this offend you?if so,then you must be one of them?i've said nothing you guys haven't said in your so many words?

you guys, huh? I love when pedantic individuals believe their own sophomoric BS. Do you honestly think in this day and age that there is a conspiracy against the black QB? Particularly a black QB that can play?

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