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I'm not trying to start any mess, however I am wondering is Barack Obama a good example of what this country thinks of Bi-Racial people? Allow me to submit to you my fellow posters he is never called a white candidate, or for the matter I can't remember him being call a bi-racial candidate. All I ever hear people call him is a black candidate. Do people in this country feel that if you are mixed with black then you simply are black? Example Tiger Woods is always looked at as a black man, not a bi-racial man. Do other races not accept bi racial folks as much as the black community does? Discuss....

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I guess it all goes back to the one drop rule. It is kind of funny because when it comes to bi-racial folks you never hear that they are white. Its always whatever the minority is. Not saying white people don't embrace them, they just don't seem to refer to them in racial ways as being white.

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Vargil (2/22/2008)
I guess it all goes back to the one drop rule. It is kind of funny because when it comes to bi-racial folks you never hear that they are white. Its always whatever the minority is. Not saying white people don't embrace them, they just don't seem to refer to them in racial ways as being white.

That's what I'm saying,

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Steve_Bartkowski (2/22/2008)
If anyone is for or against Obama because of his skin color they are simply ignorant.

Barack Obama represents left wing liberalism and possibly socialism to me.

If any of these African American guys (or gal) were running for president I would gladly vote for them:

Alan Keyes

Condi Rice

Colin Powell

JC Watts

or whoever else is qualified...

What does that have to do with the way bi-racial people are viewed among people in this country?

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grrrillapmp (2/22/2008)
This is a saying that some old heads used to tell me. It's basically the on drop rule, anyway...

If slavery came back tomorrow, his a** would be in the fields right next to me.

That's not true, he would be in the house. Remember the house (n word censored) always was the light skin folks.

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Anansi (2/22/2008)
I'm not trying to start any mess, however I am wondering is Barack Obama a good example of what this country thinks of Bi-Racial people? Allow me to submit to you my fellow posters he is never called a white candidate, or for the matter I can't remember him being call a bi-racial candidate. All I ever hear people call him is a black candidate. Do people in this country feel that if you are mixed with black then you simply are black? Example Tiger Woods is always looked at as a black man, not a bi-racial man. Do other races not accept bi racial folks as much as the black community does? Discuss....

I just consider him black, simply because he looks black. Same with Tiger woods. no biggie either way for me.

Same goes for Halle Berry. She looks more black than white so I think of her that way. I know BiRacial people who are more white and I think of them as white.

As far as accepting, it doesn't enter my mind what race someone is. You're either a decent person or you're not. I think "accepting" cuts into a lot of communities. I know quite a few black people who acknowledge, for good, bad or indifferent the different skin tones among other black people.It was from black people I first heard the terms Redbone and high yellow. As a matter of fact I fiirst heard the term High yellow on Sanford and Son when Fred was not in favor of a white girl dating Lamont. He said "she needs to start at High yellow and work her way up":P

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What does that have to do with the way bi-racial people are viewed among people in this country?

How should we view bi-racial people in this country?

People are people...

Well that would be a great way to view all people however, when people talk about Obama they always say (He may be the first black president) and I just find that somewhat strange that people tend to ignore the fact that he is bi-racial. Then I thought about it and like said earlier that tends to happen with everybody bi-racial. So my question is why is that? And do whites not embrace bi-racial people as much as minorities do?

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This thread reminds me of Dave Chappelle's "Racial Draft" skit. :D

Anyway, its been my experience that the Black community will accept bi-racial kids more often than not than any other ethnicity. I have two bi-racial persons in my family and its never been an issue. We think they're beautiful and we're proud of them like any other member in our family.

As for other races, I think socioeconomic perception and status plays a huge part in how easy a race of people in America are willing to accept bi-raciality. Tiger Woods, as a small child and during his time at Stanford, was always pictured with his Black father, Earl. Therefore, he was always categorized as Black since he obviously has strong Black features. The media never showed him with his Asian mother that much, that is, until he started gaining fame as a huge golf star and was making his money, then they (the media) started to categorize him as bi-racial. THEN it became an issue.

Same goes for Halle Berry and Mariah Carey as well. Their bi-raciality becomes an issue when they accomplish something that gets them notoriety in media circles. They have to have noticed it as well, since both women has had nervous breakdowns due to the pressures of prejudice/inclusion/exclusion they've endured along the way.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

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Anansi (2/22/2008)
I'm not trying to start any mess, however I am wondering is Barack Obama a good example of what this country thinks of Bi-Racial people? Allow me to submit to you my fellow posters he is never called a white candidate, or for the matter I can't remember him being call a bi-racial candidate. All I ever hear people call him is a black candidate. Do people in this country feel that if you are mixed with black then you simply are black? Example Tiger Woods is always looked at as a black man, not a bi-racial man. Do other races not accept bi racial folks as much as the black community does? Discuss....

He's not black. I doubt if a 100% black man would have gotten this far. Bi-racial and light skin blacks have certain built-in advantages amongst Anglo American society.

I define black as 70-100% black. not 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4.

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Statick (2/22/2008)
This thread reminds me of Dave Chappelle's "Racial Draft" skit. :D

Anyway, its been my experience that the Black community will accept bi-racial kids more often than not than any other ethnicity. I have two bi-racial persons in my family and its never been an issue. We think they're beautiful and we're proud of them like any other member in our family.

As for other races, I think socioeconomic perception and status plays a huge part in how easy a race of people in America are willing to accept bi-raciality. Tiger Woods, as a small child and during his time at Stanford, was always pictured with his Black father, Earl. Therefore, he was always categorized as Black since he obviously has strong Black features. The media never showed him with his Asian mother that much, that is, until he started gaining fame as a huge golf star and was making his money, then they (the media) started to categorize him as bi-racial. THEN it became an issue.

Same goes for Halle Berry and Mariah Carey as well. Their bi-raciality becomes an issue when they accomplish something that gets them notoriety in media circles. They have to have noticed it as well, since both women has had nervous breakdowns due to the pressures of prejudice/inclusion/exclusion they've endured along the way.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

As for Bi Racial kids, they are some of the most beautiful people in the world. Hands down.

Like I said about Halle, she looks black so I thought of her as a black woman. I didn't know she was biracial for a long while. She has also said numerous times she considers herself black.

And the first time I saw Mariah, I thought she was Latina.

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pencilpusher (2/22/2008)

I just consider him black, simply because he looks black. Same with Tiger woods. no biggie either way for me.

Same goes for Halle Berry. She looks more black than white so I think of her that way. I know BiRacial people who are more white and I think of them as white.

As far as accepting, it doesn't enter my mind what race someone is. You're either a decent person or you're not. I think "accepting" cuts into a lot of communities. I know quite a few black people who acknowledge, for good, bad or indifferent the different skin tones among other black people.It was from black people I first heard the terms Redbone and high yellow. As a matter of fact I fiirst heard the term High yellow on Sanford and Son when Fred was not in favor of a white girl dating Lamont. He said "she needs to start at High yellow and work her way up":P

I think you have touched on something that does impact the black community a lot. Black folks seem to notice skin tones a lot. A lot of dark skin people have made comments that light skinned blacks are "uppity, and snobbish" while some light skin folks have been known to look down on dark skin people. Also for some reason a lot of light skinned people have express that they feel they have to "prove their blackness" to dark skinned people. My father who is very dark skinned wouldn't date dark skinned women (my mother is bi-racial).

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I'm not trying to start any mess, however I am wondering is Barack Obama a good example of what this country thinks of Bi-Racial people? Allow me to submit to you my fellow posters he is never called a white candidate, or for the matter I can't remember him being call a bi-racial candidate. All I ever hear people call him is a black candidate. Do people in this country feel that if you are mixed with black then you simply are black? Example Tiger Woods is always looked at as a black man, not a bi-racial man. Do other races not accept bi racial folks as much as the black community does? Discuss....

He's not black. I doubt if a 100% black man would have gotten this far. Bi-racial and light skin blacks have certain built-in advantages amongst Anglo American society.

I define black as 90-95% black. not 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4.

NOW you know he's not 100% Black because its now well-known that he isn't.

I'm sure your first impression was that he was a Black. I don't see how in the world a person can tell what percentage of an ethnicity (or what ethnicity or sure) a person is just by looking at them.

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