DirtyBirdzBeastMode Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 honestly i no mcfadden is good ... and i won't lie i AM a vick fan ... and i would be more than happy to see him come back ... but i jus got this feeling that wont happen so i'm going to go with matt ryan ... mcfadden is good but Norwood is better!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 you forgotNEITHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I've been a D-Mac fan for a long time, and I'm still hurting at our missing out on AP in last year's draft. Having said that, if I'm put on the line here, I have to agree with Sean Salisbury that QB is the most important position in sports, and if you don't have one, then you aren't going anywhere. That's why I'd suck it up, and (ugh!) let McFadden go and draft Matt Ryan. He actually reminds me alot of Favre the way he gunslings on the field, and I like that mentality in a QB. It actually makes my stomach clinch thinking about this topic, because I know D-Mac is going to produce from day one, but RBs are sooo much easier to find than a top QB. Play it safe or go for it? I've always been one to roll the dice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfoozball Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 texasbirdfan (2/14/2008)you forgotNEITHERYup. Or Sedrick Ellis. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFalcon Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'd vote for neither as the first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 nobody will agree I am sure, but I would take Ryan over McFadden.I dont know why people cant read the thread....he didnt say what player do you want....he said would you prefer Ryan OR McFadden....period. :doze: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris30277 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Jake Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Pritts Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Neither. Ellis or Long, as in Jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Jesus y'all are dense. Which would you prefer of the 2? Obviously most of us want someone else but of the 2 i'd take mcfadden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogfalcon Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 1989fan (2/15/2008)I dont know why people cant read the thread....he didnt say what player do you want....he said would you prefer Ryan OR McFadden....period. :doze:I don't think they read this part either?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 If we took Matt Ryan over Darren McFadden that would be the biggest debacle I've ever seen.Passing on a potential All-Pro RB for a QB with the biggest bust tag I've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 both players carried their teams on their backs. both players have their share of bust potential. I would take Ryan because a QB is a harder position to fill, and one we have a bigger void at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 1989fan (2/15/2008)both players carried their teams on their backs. both players have their share of bust potential. I would take Ryan because a QB is a harder position to fill, and one we have a bigger void at.But Matt Ryan is LESS LIKELY to fill a void because he has bust written all over him with his average physical skills and decision making skills.But at this point, the biggest void we need to fill is in the trenches. QB and RB are sexy picks, but we need either the guy in your avatar or Sedrick Ellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 busboyisback (2/15/2008)But at this point, the biggest void we need to fill is in the trenches. QB and RB are sexy picks, but we need either the guy in your avatar or Sedrick Ellis.that we agree on 100%I am hoping for Dorsey (DT), Henne(QB) and Collins (OT) as our top 3 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flrybranch Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 1989fan (2/15/2008)I dont know why people cant read the thread....he didnt say what player do you want....he said would you prefer Ryan OR McFadden....period. :doze:Actually He said "If both Ryan and McFadden are still...."And I will agree with most other posters.... He forgot the option of "None of the Above" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 id probably take ryan and just hope he turned into something. mcfadden is just a replication of norwood that costs more money and has higher expectations as a result of it. so if we already have a lower-cost version of norwood on the roster, why wouldnt we take a shot in the dark to see if we can get a good qb. i dont think it would work out well at all considering matt ryan is extremely turnover prone when he throws the ball deep (over 10 of his 19 ints came throwing deep passes) and our offense is by name a "vertical passing offense". but id still go for him over mcfadden just because im tired of people saying mcfadden is a sure thing and that he would be a power back for us, because he would not be. he would be a souped-up norwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftwfalconsfan Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 busboyisback (2/15/2008)If we took Matt Ryan over Darren McFadden that would be the biggest debacle I've ever seen.Passing on a potential All-Pro RB for a QB with the biggest bust tag I've ever seenAmen. I thought it was a trick question at first. D-MAC of course! Ryan is about the most over rated prospect in this draft. Plus, he doesn't have the arm strength to run Mularky's vertical passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting129 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I cannot fathom why some posters would rather draft Ryan than McFadden. If you like Ryan that's fine, but he is not worthy of a top-5 pick. If we're gonna draft him we better trade down, or just take McFadden and be set at RB for the longterm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Sting129 (2/15/2008)I cannot fathom why some posters would rather draft Ryan than McFadden. If you like Ryan that's fine, but he is not worthy of a top-5 pick. If we're gonna draft him we better trade down, or just take McFadden and be set at RB for the longterm.Like the Saints are set @ RB long term after taking Bush #2? That is about the best recent comparison I can find for him, but Bush is an amazing reciever as well.DMC is no Peterson, and I dont know why people dont get that..... I wanted Peterson over every player but Joe Thomas last year. So its not that I am against the right RB early, but DMC is not AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting129 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 1989fan (2/15/2008)Sting129 (2/15/2008)I cannot fathom why some posters would rather draft Ryan than McFadden. If you like Ryan that's fine, but he is not worthy of a top-5 pick. If we're gonna draft him we better trade down, or just take McFadden and be set at RB for the longterm.Like the Saints are set @ RB long term after taking Bush #2? That is about the best recent comparison I can find for him, but Bush is an amazing reciever as well.DMC is no Peterson, and I dont know why people dont get that..... I wanted Peterson over every player but Joe Thomas last year. So its not that I am against the right RB early, but DMC is not AP.That's a horrible comparison, because Bush and McFadden are in no ways similar except speed. Bush isn't even the same type of running back that Darren is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 1989fan (2/15/2008)DMC is no Peterson, and I dont know why people dont get that..... I wanted Peterson over every player but Joe Thomas last year. So its not that I am against the right RB early, but DMC is not AP.Had DMC come out last year, he would have had a higher grade than Peterson. So, personnel folks think he is that type of player. He's got the power, the between-the-tackles toughness, and speed to burn. Plus, he doesn't have Peterson's injury history. I do not expect him to have the rookie season that Peterson did, but as I said the entire time we discussed AP last year, DMC is a slightly better prospect. What he's done with Casey **** as his QB and SEC defenses knowing he was the key has been mythic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 jidady (2/16/2008)1989fan (2/15/2008)DMC is no Peterson, and I dont know why people dont get that..... I wanted Peterson over every player but Joe Thomas last year. So its not that I am against the right RB early, but DMC is not AP.Had DMC come out last year, he would have had a higher grade than Peterson. So, personnel folks think he is that type of player. He's got the power, the between-the-tackles toughness, and speed to burn. Plus, he doesn't have Peterson's injury history. I do not expect him to have the rookie season that Peterson did, but as I said the entire time we discussed AP last year, DMC is a slightly better prospect. What he's done with Casey **** as his QB and SEC defenses knowing he was the key has been mythic.That's exactly right. AP's terrific rookie season was also aided by the fact that he was running behind 3 great offensive linemen. McFadden will be unfairly compared to AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfan82 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 i voted ryan and if we end up gettin unluckly and get 5th pikc this could be r choices and we need QB much much more then we need a RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I'm going to walk a fine line here and try to be honest that I watched Minnesota play 10 times this year. While I like their offensive line, Peterson made them look better than they were. He's such an explosive back that even the surest tacklers in the NFL struggle matching up with him. Like 89, I was a huge supporter of AP last year (he was either my #2 or #3 player in the draft...can't recall if it was him or Thomas I liked better), but I was surprised by how quickly he not only acclimated to the NFL but dominated. At least three of his biggest runs of the year were all him. A lesser back would have gotten four yards.The point of contention here is whether McFadden is that kind of back. Since he was a true freshman running over people (he was a power back then...no idea when that reputation changed), I've felt he was. Lately, at least on this board, he's become just another Norwood/Bush speedster. Guys like that shouldn't be drafted so high. So, if that is the perception a person has about McFadden, their reticence to draft him is understandable. I just can't see it. At all. This kid is the apocalypse walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 jidady (2/16/2008)I'm going to walk a fine line here and try to be honest that I watched Minnesota play 10 times this year. While I like their offensive line, Peterson made them look better than they were. He's such an explosive back that even the surest tacklers in the NFL struggle matching up with him. Like 89, I was a huge supporter of AP last year (he was either my #2 or #3 player in the draft...can't recall if it was him or Thomas I liked better), but I was surprised by how quickly he not only acclimated to the NFL but dominated. At least three of his biggest runs of the year were all him. A lesser back would have gotten four yards.The point of contention here is whether McFadden is that kind of back. Since he was a true freshman running over people (he was a power back then...no idea when that reputation changed), I've felt he was. Lately, at least on this board, he's become just another Norwood/Bush speedster. Guys like that shouldn't be drafted so high. So, if that is the perception a person has about McFadden, their reticence to draft him is understandable. I just can't see it. At all. This kid is the apocalypse walking.LOL. Dude. drop back and punt. The running back "made" one of the 3 best groups of linemen in the NFL look better? Steely Dan had a song for that probably before you were born called Pretzel Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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