DomeGnome Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Yep. bush killed the GOP.Never mind worrying about Mac or Mitt or Huck. If you're in the GOP you better start worrying about this.Here are the numbers just for the 19 states where both parties had elections yesterdayObama/Clinton voters: 14,460,149McCain/Romney/Huckabee voters: 8,367,694Or, 73% more Democratic voters than Republican voters.Ouch. That's gotta hurt and it had states running right down the center of the country.The Dems got out 6+ million more voters yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpepp4prez Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 That kind of thinking is what is killing this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomeGnome Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 jpepp4prez (2/6/2008)That kind of thinking is what is killing this country.The first step in getting help is admitting that you have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Made Soul Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 So basically everyone is stupidly following the Democrats like sheep instead of following the GOP like sheep? Wow, good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 DomeGnome (2/6/2008)jpepp4prez (2/6/2008)That kind of thinking is what is killing this country.The first step in getting help is admitting that you have a problem.Yeah, the problem is both parties stink at running the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I don't care about GOP vs DEM turnout nearly as much as I care about total turnout.It disgusts me that 4 out of 10 registered voters turn out, and that's considered EARTH-SHAKINGLY VOLUMINOUS. We ALL spend so much time bi#ching about the government but less than half of us actually bother to participate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlick Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 morphy (2/6/2008)So basically everyone is stupidly following the Democrats like sheep instead of following the GOP like sheep? Wow, good news! Yes. Casting a vote for one of the two political parties in the United States two party system is following like sheep. I should have done a write in vote for myself...that would prove alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomeGnome Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 So what will it mean in the general election if 70% more Dems. than Repubs. show up in the General election?What kind of effect will that have on Congress/Local elections?Is there any concern at all out there from the Republicans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_since_1966 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I am a Democrat but I will not vote for Obama if nominated, (he's a bigger airhead than Bush) I will vote for Mccain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 DomeGnome (2/6/2008)So what will it mean in the general election if 70% more Dems. than Repubs. show up in the General election?What kind of effect will that have on Congress/Local elections?Is there any concern at all out there from the Republicans?Dems probably break even or lose a few seats in the House (they won a lot of red districts in 2006), but gain 4-7 Senate seats. 2008 is shaping up to be a horrible year for GOPers in the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesouphead Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 fan_since_1966 (2/8/2008)I am a Democrat but I will not vote for Obama if nominated, (he's a bigger airhead than Bush) I will vote for Mccainthis is the first time I have seen anybody criticize Obama's intelligence. why do you say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Source Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 octoslash (2/6/2008) I don't care about GOP vs DEM turnout nearly as much as I care about total turnout.It disgusts me that 4 out of 10 registered voters turn out, and that's considered EARTH-SHAKINGLY VOLUMINOUS. We ALL spend so much time bi#ching about the government but less than half of us actually bother to participate. Although I agree with you, I don't think your comment is 100% accurate. Considering many states only let you vote at primaries if you are registered Democrat/Republican, I'm sure alot of people can't vote, cause they registered as independent, or undecided, or any of the other options. I would like to vote in Colorado's primaries, but I can't, for this exact reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Steve_Bartkowski (2/8/2008)thesouphead (2/8/2008)fan_since_1966 (2/8/2008)I am a Democrat but I will not vote for Obama if nominated, (he's a bigger airhead than Bush) I will vote for Mccainthis is the first time I have seen anybody criticize Obama's intelligence. why do you say this?I question Obama's intelligence for thinking that what this country needs is more taxes and more spending. I think Harvard should demand their degree back.So anyone who supports liberal policies is a dolt.Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suppo81 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Although i agree the democratic base is more energized, one of the main reasons for their higher turnout is because of a closer race and the media has been hyping their race up more. Indpependents are registering for the democratic side to support Obama. And a lot of conservatives aren't showing up in the primaries, but I think will in the election.I think McCain still holds a big advantage in a contest vs. Clinton, because those indies that are going to vote for Obama would vote for Mccain over Clinton. Already early polls are showing that. If it's Obama vs. McCain, Obama would be a heavy favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_since_1966 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 You know at our Superbowl party, of about 30 people here, 20 were Democrats the rest GOP, of the 20 most support Hillary but if she does not get the nomination all agreed they would vote for McCain, so needless to say there wasn't much heated political debate.Obama may be book smart, who knows, but he seems to lack common sense, thats why from now on he is the "Airhead" He is like a bag of cotton candy, all fluff and no substance.All I hear is about his "Leadership" What? you have got to be joking. I have studied his bio, no real leadership there.And of course, "Change". Hillarys platform offers more in real change in health care and education. He beats her in personality but not head to head on issues.Look maybe in 2016, get more experience Barack and then we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Winning an election is all about mobolizing potential voters. I don´t see how McCain will mobolize the GOP like Hillary/Obama will move the Dems. Voting for McCain will basicly just voting for no change at all, I doubt that this will motivate too many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 DomeGnome (2/6/2008)Yep. bush killed the GOP.Never mind worrying about Mac or Mitt or Huck. If you're in the GOP you better start worrying about this.Here are the numbers just for the 19 states where both parties had elections yesterdayObama/Clinton voters: 14,460,149McCain/Romney/Huckabee voters: 8,367,694Or, 73% more Democratic voters than Republican voters.Ouch. That's gotta hurt and it had states running right down the center of the country.The Dems got out 6+ million more voters yesterday.Yaa it basically says, YOUR GOING TO LOSE.:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Suppo81 (2/8/2008)Although i agree the democratic base is more energized, one of the main reasons for their higher turnout is because of a closer race and the media has been hyping their race up more. Indpependents are registering for the democratic side to support Obama. And a lot of conservatives aren't showing up in the primaries, but I think will in the election.I think McCain still holds a big advantage in a contest vs. Clinton, because those indies that are going to vote for Obama would vote for Mccain over Clinton. Already early polls are showing that. If it's Obama vs. McCain, Obama would be a heavy favorite.You have to consider the national mood, as well. McCain has the best shot at appealing to independents, but he still has an uphill battle. On all of the major issues, independents trust Dems more than Reps. Despite the success of the surge, independents also heavily oppose the war, which is the one issue that McCain is best known for. Generally, independents are leaning 2-1 in favor of Dems because of what they view as a poor performance by a GOP president. And the economy heading into the crapper only reinforces all of this.I'm not saying that McCain is a sure loser. I AM saying that all GOP candidates will enter teh race with a disadvantage, even if McCain's disadvantage is smaller than other GOP candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prolikewhoa Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I remember last year when McCain himself said that the Republican party had lost its way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Steve_Bartkowski (2/9/2008)nativefalcon (2/9/2008)DomeGnome (2/6/2008)Yep. bush killed the GOP.Never mind worrying about Mac or Mitt or Huck. If you're in the GOP you better start worrying about this.Here are the numbers just for the 19 states where both parties had elections yesterdayObama/Clinton voters: 14,460,149McCain/Romney/Huckabee voters: 8,367,694Or, 73% more Democratic voters than Republican voters.Ouch. That's gotta hurt and it had states running right down the center of the country.The Dems got out 6+ million more voters yesterday.Yaa it basically says, YOUR GOING TO LOSE.:PNotice that Obama won a lot of the southern/red states? Hillary doesn't have a very good reputation in those parts of the country. I think a lot of voters felt more strongly about voting AGAINST Hillary than they did voting FOR any Republican candidate. Hillary will garner lots of anti-Hillary votes no matter who she runs against. Many of those 6 million (Obama) voters will switch over to the Republican side if Hillary gets nominated. Bank on it.You want to bet on that? We'll see in November. I know alot of people that they are just voting democrat, they don't care who gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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