atlfalcon2184 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I'm so sick of all of these "experts" saying that we have to take Matt Ryan. I think this has been posted before , but not lately. It needs to be done again so I decided to look up and post the stats for most of the QB's coming out this year. Everyone knows about Ryan's terrible TD/Int. ratio, but I wanted to compare his stats to everyone else. So here it goes:Matt Ryan:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 35 71 350 49.3 4.93 32 2 3 5 91.55 2005 121 195 1514 62.1 7.76 61 8 5 5 135.68 2006 263 427 2942 61.6 6.89 79 15 10 19 126.38 2007 388 654 4507 59.3 6.89 71 31 19 21 127.04 Brian Brohm:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 66 98 819 67.3 8.36 74 6 2 11 153.67 2005 207 301 2883 68.8 9.58 76 19 5 17 166.73 2006 199 313 3049 63.6 9.74 75 16 5 16 159.08 2007 308 473 4024 65.1 8.51 81 30 12 24 152.43 Chad Henne:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 240 399 2743 60.2 6.88 69 25 12 29 132.56 2005 223 382 2526 58.4 6.61 54 23 8 21 129.61 2006 203 328 2508 61.9 7.65 69 22 8 24 143.37 2007 162 278 1938 58.3 6.97 65 17 9 16 130.54 Eric Ainge:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 109 198 1452 55.1 7.33 60 17 9 5 135.89 2005 66 145 737 45.5 5.08 50 5 7 9 89.94 2006 233 348 2989 67.0 8.59 84 19 9 13 151.95 2007 325 519 3522 62.6 6.79 65 31 10 3 135.48 Andre Woodson:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 54 88 492 61.4 5.59 52 2 1 14 113.56 2005 146 253 1644 57.7 6.50 79 6 6 30 115.37 2006 264 419 3515 63.0 8.39 80 31 7 36 154.55 2007 327 518 3709 63.1 7.16 57 40 11 38 144.51 Colt Brennan:Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2005 350 515 4301 68.0 8.35 87 35 13 34 155.49 2006 406 559 5549 72.6 9.93 79 58 12 26 185.96 2007 359 510 4343 70.4 8.52 67 38 17 28 159.85 Joe Flacco: Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 1 4 11 25.0 2.75 11 0 0 2 48.10 2006 264 417 2783 63.3 6.67 59 18 10 23 128.82 2007 331 521 4263 63.5 8.18 84 23 5 25 144.91 Dennis Dixon: Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 6 15 73 40.0 4.87 22 0 0 1 80.88 2005 69 104 777 66.3 7.47 68 6 3 4 142.37 2006 197 322 2143 61.2 6.66 67 12 14 5 120.68 2007 172 254 2136 67.7 8.41 85 20 4 13 161.19 Josh Johnson: Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2004 12 22 135 54.5 6.14 45 0 1 1 97.00 2005 260 371 3256 70.1 8.78 59 36 8 11 171.51 2006 246 371 3320 66.3 8.95 72 34 5 15 169.03 2007 206 301 2988 68.4 9.93 80 43 1 11 198.30 John David Booty: Stat Overview Passing YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2005 27 42 327 64.3 7.79 31 3 2 1 143.74 2006 269 436 3347 61.7 7.68 62 29 9 14 144.01 2007 215 340 2361 63.2 6.94 63 23 10 12 138.01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Obraiden Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Are you saying that stellar college stats are the best way to determine that a college QB will translate to NFL stardom?If so, might as well post David Greenes, Andre Ware's, Dave Klingler's, Timmy Chang's stats...**** look at Tim Rattay--a stud in college terms--NFL backup.The argument of his INT to TD ratio is so hosed on many levels. #1 BCs running game was inferior. Ryan was forced to throw over 600 times. Kind of hard to fool the defense in play action when you do that, aint it. Are you going to blame bad playcalling on Ryan? He didn't call the pass plays--i guarantee that. If anything the fact that he has such good stats is indicative of a Kid that can carry a team on his shoulders. Especially when you consider BC ended up #10 overall in the country.Does Ryan need to make better decisions in the NFL? Not try to force the ball so much? Manage the game more than try to win it by himself all of the time? Sure he does, just like any ROOKIE QB will need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poster Large Johnson Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 only players on this list who played any real competition was JDB, Dixon, Ainge & AWonly thing that really matters to me is completion % & TD to Int ratioagain college #s are whatever to me w/ respect to the potential NFL impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Eric Obraiden (2/3/2008)The argument of his INT to TD ratio is so hosed on many levels. #1 BCs running game was inferior. Ryan was forced to throw over 600 times. Kind of hard to fool the defense in play action when you do that, aint it. Are you going to blame bad playcalling on Ryan? He didn't call the pass plays--i guarantee that. If anything the fact that he has such good stats is indicative of a Kid that can carry a team on his shoulders. Especially when you consider BC ended up #10 overall in the country.Does Ryan need to make better decisions in the NFL? Not try to force the ball so much? Manage the game more than try to win it by himself all of the time? Sure he does, just like any ROOKIE QB will need to.Of course you can't blame the QB on a poor running game, I blame the QB for throwing the ball in double and triple coverage including when he's NOT under durress. Taking someone top 5 in the draft just on the hope that he will drastically improve his decision making is ridiculous.You say the TD/INT ratio is overrated but there isn't a single highly regarded prospect that has ever failed to have a 2/1 TD/INT ratio.Even Rex Grossman and Eli Manning had one. The fact that RYan is a worse decision maker than those guys is just plain scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Eric Obraiden (2/3/2008)Are you saying that stellar college stats are the best way to determine that a college QB will translate to NFL stardom?I don't know what the original poster was saying, but what I say with complete confidence is that a QB who was 61st in college passer rating in Division I is unworthy of a first round pick.Feel free to make an argument as to why this is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlfalcon2184 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 jidady (2/3/2008)Eric Obraiden (2/3/2008)Are you saying that stellar college stats are the best way to determine that a college QB will translate to NFL stardom?I don't know what the original poster was saying, but what I say with complete confidence is that a QB who was 61st in college passer rating in Division I is unworthy of a first round pick.Feel free to make an argument as to why this is not the case.I was just listing the stats. I still can't see how Ryan is rated so high. I watched him quite a bit and I was never impressed. I don't think stats are everything at all, but they have to factor into the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlfalcon2184 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Eric Obraiden (2/3/2008)Are you saying that stellar college stats are the best way to determine that a college QB will translate to NFL stardom?If so, might as well post David Greenes, Andre Ware's, Dave Klingler's, Timmy Chang's stats...**** look at Tim Rattay--a stud in college terms--NFL backup.The argument of his INT to TD ratio is so hosed on many levels. #1 BCs running game was inferior. Ryan was forced to throw over 600 times. Kind of hard to fool the defense in play action when you do that, aint it. Are you going to blame bad playcalling on Ryan? He didn't call the pass plays--i guarantee that. If anything the fact that he has such good stats is indicative of a Kid that can carry a team on his shoulders. Especially when you consider BC ended up #10 overall in the country.Does Ryan need to make better decisions in the NFL? Not try to force the ball so much? Manage the game more than try to win it by himself all of the time? Sure he does, just like any ROOKIE QB will need to.I wasn't saying that all QB's who have great college stats will be good NFL QB's. You would have to be an idiot to think that. My question is how many QB's that have mediocre college stats turn out to be great pro's? He could turn out to be great, who knows, but he is way too risky for a top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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