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I've thought about this trade over and over since I first heard about it and I still can't get it to make sense.

How in the world is Jerry Jones thinking of doing this trade? Is it a smokescreen? A stupid rumor? It's definitely a stupid decision if JJ is serious about doing it.

If it is true, let's hope DMC falls to the Falcons.

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jamnesiac34 (1/30/2008)
I've thought about this trade over and over since I first heard about it and I still can't get it to make sense.

How in the world is Jerry Jones thinking of doing this trade? Is it a smokescreen? A stupid rumor? It's definitely a stupid decision if JJ is serious about doing it.

If it is true, let's hope DMC falls to the Falcons.

It really doesn't make any sense from a Dallas perspective. Maybe he wants the hype factor that McFadden would bring, but outside of that, from an on-the-field perspective it doesn't make much sense. Especially given the fact that where Dallas is drafting, they are in perfect position to nap Felix Jones, the other RB from Arkansas who should have almost as good of a pro career as McFadden (maybe better in the beginning since he'll go to a better team).
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GEORGIAfan (1/30/2008)
Legion (1/30/2008)
I seriously believe that a trade will be made with Miami, unless Miami is gunning for Ryan in which case I could see the Rams taking that trade oh but quickly. What is MMBIII?

Marion the barbarian barber the 3rd. he is a 3rd, so thats why he said MBIII.

They will probably will trade with Miami. Miami has RB woes and this would work for them and also Parcells will look to trade down. For all of you that remember, he HATES the first pick.

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Legion (1/30/2008)
GEORGIAfan (1/30/2008)
Legion (1/30/2008)
I seriously believe that a trade will be made with Miami, unless Miami is gunning for Ryan in which case I could see the Rams taking that trade oh but quickly. What is MMBIII?

Marion the barbarian barber the 3rd. he is a 3rd, so thats why he said MBIII.

They will probably will trade with Miami. Miami has RB woes and this would work for them and also Parcells will look to trade down. For all of you that remember, he HATES the first pick.

i doubt it, because they have ricky williams and ronnie brown. if they do make that trade, then they will probably just trade MB again for a 1st or 2nd.

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GEORGIAfan (1/30/2008)
Legion (1/30/2008)
GEORGIAfan (1/30/2008)
Legion (1/30/2008)
I seriously believe that a trade will be made with Miami, unless Miami is gunning for Ryan in which case I could see the Rams taking that trade oh but quickly. What is MMBIII?

Marion the barbarian barber the 3rd. he is a 3rd, so thats why he said MBIII.

They will probably will trade with Miami. Miami has RB woes and this would work for them and also Parcells will look to trade down. For all of you that remember, he HATES the first pick.

i doubt it, because they have ricky williams and ronnie brown. if they do make that trade, then they will probably just trade MB again for a 1st or 2nd.

Ronnie Brown is not really an every down back and Ricky Williams is old and probably headed to the waiver wire. Parcells is in the rebuilding phase and likes physical runners. He may take the deal just for the picks, but he may do business with JJ.

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Legion (1/30/2008)

Ronnie Brown is not really an every down back

Ronnie Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage when he got hurt. He was pacing for 2,250 when he got injured. He's a stud and most assuredly an every day back since he can run, receive and (most importantly) block. In fact, out of the feature backs in this league, he's the closest to a true three-down player since he had to learn all of those skills at Auburn while sharing the spotlight with Caddy.

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jidady (1/30/2008)
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Ronnie Brown is not really an every down back

Ronnie Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage when he got hurt. He was pacing for 2,250 when he got injured. He's a stud and most assuredly an every day back since he can run, receive and (most importantly) block. In fact, out of the feature backs in this league, he's the closest to a true three-down player since he had to learn all of those skills at Auburn while sharing the spotlight with Caddy.

Lets not get too mixed up in this. He is NOT an every down back and proved it when he went down...anyone that knows football will tell you that this was the knock on him. His durability. Did he pass or fail the test sir? Just because you are having an okay season, even a great season doesn't mean that you'll be able to do this all of the time. If Norwood had been given the lead and carried the ball 25 times a game then he too would have been on a great pace before being lost for the season.

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Lets not get too mixed up in this. He is NOT an every down back and proved it when he went down...anyone that knows football will tell you that this was the knock on him. His durability.

With all due respect, you're dead wrong. You're confusing him with Caddy, who was injured a few times at Auburn. Brown missed only two games due to injury in his college career. In fact, I just went back and looked at a couple of scouting reports to make sure. Durability issues are not mentioned in either one. Before the fluke ACL tear, which can happen to any player at any point in their career, Brown had been as healthy as RBs ever are. In fact, that was the reason NFL teams viewed him as slightly better than Caddy. He didn't have the wear and tear on his body that his teammate did since he wasn't in the limelight as much.

It's neither here nor there for the purposes of this discussion about MB3/Miami, but I reiterate that Brown is the breathing definition of an every down NFL back. It had been ten years since we had seen a guy with his running ability who was so accomplished in pass blocking.

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Just to avoid any confusion on the subject, I will even post the NFLDS scouting report's pros and cons on Brown to insure that the point isn't in doubt:

"Arguably the top running back prospect in the country - and he isn't even the starter on his own team. Depending on your perspective, Brown has the luxury or misfortune of playing on the same team as Carnell "Cadillac" Williams. While Brown might lack Williams' pure agility, he has the combination of skills that should make him an even more effective pro player than collegiate one. Effective power runner. Plays low to the ground, offering only his shoulders and knees for defensive players to target. Punishes defenders. Unlike most power runners, however, Brown hasn't been run into the ground during college. Enters the league with relatively fresh legs... Has split carries throughout his career with not only Carnell Williams, but the since transferred Brandon Jacobs (now with Southern Illinois). Will likely end his career here with less than 550 "touches" - or roughly 45% of that what another potential 1st round running back, Texas' Cedric Benson has over his career.

Has the legitimate 4.4 speed to get to the outside and is a much better runner in the open field than most give him credit for. Can make defenders miss or run them over. Has averaged over 5.4 yards per carry over his career - a higher average than the big play specialist, Williams (5.3) despite likely finishing his career with more touches. Developing into a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. On pace to triple his previous career high of receptions this season with twenty five - averaging 10.6 yards every time he makes a catch. A back who hasn't received the national attention of Cadillac, Cedric Benson, and countless other backs and thus, many draft fans may find his status as a likely first round pick surprising."

He is praised for fresh legs, and there is no mention of durability issues. Meanwhile, here is Caddy's report:

"Considered by many to be the elite running back prospect in the country. Possesses great foot quickness and is able to leave defenders grasping at shadows. Stronger runner that you would think by looking at him. Will run over the occasional unbalanced defender. Good vision and burst, which makes him an effective runner between the tackles. Excellent speed to the outside and is arguably the most dangerous cut back runner in the country. Has scored 12 touchdowns of 20 yards or more& Tends to run a bit upright and takes some bigger hits than you'd like.

Goes through stretches where he develops a little "fumblitis" (lost three this season so far) because he takes these hits... Durability, however, is the main concern with Williams. To his credit, "Cadillac" has enjoyed an injury free senior campaign. That said, prior to this season there was legitimate reason to question Williams' durability (and some would say toughness, as well). Missed three games last year with assorted injuries and that was his healthiest season yet (broken clavicle in 2001 and broken fibula in 2002)& That said, you are talking about a truly special athlete. In fact, in my opinion, Williams is the elite athlete of the 2005 draft. True difference-makers are rare and there is no doubt that this kid is one."

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Legion (1/30/2008)
jidady (1/30/2008)
Legion (1/30/2008)

Ronnie Brown is not really an every down back

Ronnie Brown was leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage when he got hurt. He was pacing for 2,250 when he got injured. He's a stud and most assuredly an every day back since he can run, receive and (most importantly) block. In fact, out of the feature backs in this league, he's the closest to a true three-down player since he had to learn all of those skills at Auburn while sharing the spotlight with Caddy.

Lets not get too mixed up in this. He is NOT an every down back and proved it when he went down...anyone that knows football will tell you that this was the knock on him. His durability. Did he pass or fail the test sir? Just because you are having an okay season, even a great season doesn't mean that you'll be able to do this all of the time. If Norwood had been given the lead and carried the ball 25 times a game then he too would have been on a great pace before being lost for the season.

You Obviously don't know football, because he was injured once in his career at Auburn. I'm sorry, but tearing your ACL doesn't prove ##### when it comes to durability. That's a freak accident, and can happen to the strongest and healthiest of players.

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