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grendel (1/13/2008)
How about Spags and the Giant D?
Exactly.....Spags is the hands down winner among all of the assistants in the playoffs so far.
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I really dont think you can judge who can build a program up from 1 or 2 playoff games. Not that I would totally rule out Spags, but ****... Can we only remember 1 hour into the past on this board? Every beats the drum of the last thing they remember here.

I'm pretty weary of hiring a GM who basically got this job scouting for the 3-4 defense, and then turning around, and hiring a 4-3 defensive coordinator as the head coach.

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mbrizzle (1/13/2008)
I really dont think you can judge who can build a program up from 1 or 2 playoff games. Not that I would totally rule out Spags, but ****... Can we only remember 1 hour into the past on this board? Every beats the drum of the last thing they remember here.

I'm pretty weary of hiring a GM who basically got this job scouting for the 3-4 defense, and then turning around, and hiring a 4-3 defensive coordinator as the head coach.

Do some research. A little about Spags:

Steve Spagnuolo was hired as the Giants new defensive coordinator on Jan. 22, 2007. He replaced Tim Lewis, who held the position the previous three seasons.

Spagnuolo comes to the Giants after eight seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, the last three as the club's linebackers coach. While he was in that role, middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter was selected to two Pro Bowl berths. In 2005, Trotter was voted to the game after leading the Eagles with 169 tackles, including 13 for a loss. That season, Philadelphia led the NFL with 60 tackles for a loss, including 25 by the linebackers.

Spagnuolo was the only coach to work under highly-respected defensive coordinator Jim Johnson during his entire tenure in Philadelphia. During six of his eight seasons with the Eagles, Spagnuolo coached a player who earned Pro Bowl honors.

In his eight-year tenure in Philadelphia, Spagnuolo (pronounced SPAG-no-low) helped coach an Eagles defense that is traditionally one of the NFL s best. In a six-year period from 1999-2005, Philadelphia s defense ranked first in the NFL in opposing third down percentage (33 percent), second in points allowed (17.0 per game), second in sacks (265) and third in red zone defense (43.3 percent). During this period, the Eagles played in four consecutive NFC Championship Games and one Super Bowl. In 2001, the Eagles defense allowed fewer than 21 points in each of their 16 games, just the fourth time in league history that was accomplished.

Spagnuolo originally joined the Eagles coaching staff in 1999 as a defensive assistant/quality control coach working specifically with the team's safeties. Two years later, he was promoted to defensive backs coach, where he spent three seasons tutoring Pro Bowlers Brian Dawkins, Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent, Lito Sheppard and Michael Lewis. In those three seasons, the Eagles pass defense ranked in the NFL's top 10 in three key statistical categories: third-down defense, touchdown passes allowed and net yards per pass attempt.

Prior to joining the Eagles, Spagnuolo coached 15 seasons in college football and two years in NFL Europe.

He spent the 1998 season as the defensive coordinator of NFL Europe's Frankfurt Galaxy, who finished second in the league in total defense en route to a World Bowl appearance. Four of the six linebackers and nine of the 11 defensive starters he tutored went on to play in the NFL. Spagnuolo also served as the defensive line and special teams coach of the Barcelona Dragons in 1992.

A native of Grafton, Mass. Spagnuolo has served as a defensive coordinator on the college level with Connecticut and Maine. In addition, he served as assistant coach at Massachusetts, Lafayette, Rutgers and Bowling Green.

Prior to his stint at Maine, Spagnuolo spent four months as a scout for the San Diego Chargers under then-general manager Bobby Beathard. His first NFL experience came in 1983 as an intern with the Washington Redskins under then-assistant general manager Charlie Casserly.

Spagnuolo played football at Springfield (Mass.) College for head coach Howard Vandersea. He was a two-year starter at wide receiver and received the school s AAUP Male Scholar Athlete award in 1982.

Spagnuolo was born in Whitinsville, Mass. He attended Grafton High School, where he is a member of the school s athletic Hall of Fame. Spagnuolo earned a bachelor's degree in physical education from Springfield College and a master's degree in sports management from the University of Massachusetts. He is married (Maria).

SPAGNUOLO AT A GLANCE

1982-83& & & & & Massachusetts& & & & & graduate Assistant

1983& & & & & & .Washington Redskins& & player personnel intern

1984-86& & & & & Lafayette& & & & & & & defensive line/special teams

1987-91& & & & & Connecticut& & & & & ..defensive coordinator/defensive backs

1992& & & & & & .Barcelona Dragons& & & defensive line/special teams

1993& & & & & & .San Diego Chargers& & ..scout

1993-94& & & & & Maine& & & & & & & defensive coordinator/def. backs/linebackers

1994-95& & & & & Rutgers& & & & & & & .defensive backs

1996-97& & & & & Bowling Green& & & & .defensive backs

1998& & & & & & .Frankfurt Galaxy& & & ..defensive coordinator/linebackers

1999-00& & & & & Philadelphia Eagles& & ..defensive assistant

2001-03& & & & & Philadelphia Eagles& & ..defensive backs

2004-06& & & & & Philadelphia Eagles& & ..linebackers

2007& & & & & & .New York Giants& & & .defensive coordinator

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grendel (1/13/2008)
How about Spags and the Giant D?
Exactly.....Spags is the hands down winner among all of the assistants in the playoffs so far.

Yup Spags was good, I forgot he was in the running. They were great. They all had great seasons But the giants were the only ones that didn't fold. ;)

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Do some research? lol What the **** does that have to do with what I said? I said nothing to discredit Spags at all. I wouldnt be wholely upset with his hire either. But, as I already stated, I'm not sure we would want to go with the 4-3 defense, when we just hired a GM that has made his money by scouting defensive players for the 3-4.

We've seen what happened when Rich McKay went away from drafting players to play in the Tampa 2.

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Dimitroff is supposed to pick the coach so we

may have a different batch of candidates or he

may know already who his guy is. I would assume

that due to his job being unrelated to the playoffs

he could get started to work for us. I don't know

that for sure, just assuming.

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one thing you have to remember....the coach puts the players in position, but its the players that actually execute...to say that garrett fell apart is not true..garrett did not drop those balls. Garrett, did not miss those assignments...actually Romo missed a lot of opportunities..not Garrett.

though I am pulling for us to get Spags

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mbrizzle (1/13/2008)
Do some research? lol What the **** does that have to do with what I said? I said nothing to discredit Spags at all. I wouldnt be wholely upset with his hire either. But, as I already stated, I'm not sure we would want to go with the 4-3 defense, when we just hired a GM that has made his money by scouting defensive players for the 3-4.

We've seen what happened when Rich McKay went away from drafting players to play in the Tampa 2.

That sounded like I was talking smack, I'm sorry. I just read the way I put it and it didn't sound the way I meant it:P

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grendel (1/13/2008)
mbrizzle (1/13/2008)
I really dont think you can judge who can build a program up from 1 or 2 playoff games. Not that I would totally rule out Spags, but ****... Can we only remember 1 hour into the past on this board? Every beats the drum of the last thing they remember here.

I'm pretty weary of hiring a GM who basically got this job scouting for the 3-4 defense, and then turning around, and hiring a 4-3 defensive coordinator as the head coach.

How about the Giants 53 sacks this year, or the great year that D has had? There's a reason he's being seen as a HC candidate after one year as a coordinator.

Yeah. That's definately an impressive stat. It can be a red herring though, being that Ed Donatell's defense led the NFL in sacks his first year here in Atlanta.... And that it's probably a product of the New York Giants drafting first day pass rushers frequently over the last 5 years (Umenyora, Tuck, Kiwanuka, Alford). They have so many pass rushers there that they had to move a 6'6" defensive end in Kiwanuka to OLB because they are so deep.

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andrews31cain21 (1/13/2008)
one thing you have to remember....the coach puts the players in position, but its the players that actually execute...to say that garrett fell apart is not true..garrett did not drop those balls. Garrett, did not miss those assignments...actually Romo missed a lot of opportunities..not Garrett.

though I am pulling for us to get Spags

Yaa the players didn't execute but Garrett was calling the plays, mainly passes. First half their running game was killer, they didn't do barely in the last 3 possessions, and no screen passes or dink and dunks, mainly homerun throws. I know thats on Romo too but the guy sending in the plays is responsible too. ;)

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