swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbresette Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelinesThats more experience than Singletary or Garrett. Based on your analogy they don't even know how to make the gatorade yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 no offense swiftkick but i'll take tony dungy and peyton manning's word over yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 really....this from a guy who wants singletery...a linebackers coach who started his coaching career in 2003!!!!....has only ever coached one position .....no head coaching experience.....good one! NO THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelinesswiftkick, while I disagree with you on Singletary, I agree that Jim Caldwell scares me, too. His head coaching resume' is horrible at Wake Forest and he has the most "cushy" job in all NFL being Manning's quarterback coach. Manning coach's himself - he does not need a coach!Please tell me someone what has Jim Caldwell ever done? If he ends up being the coach, I will support him, but really - what is impressive about Caldwell besides he's just a "class guy" who worked for Tony Dungy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 26-63 .. whoah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Robert William (1/7/2008)really....this from a guy who wants singletery...a linebackers coach who started his coaching career in 2003!!!!....has only ever coached one position .....no head coaching experience.....good one! NO THANKSSingletary deserves a s chance before giving Caldwell one...He had his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Bush Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 joremari (1/7/2008)no offense swiftkick but i'll take tony dungy and peyton manning's word over yours.I'll take their word as well. Caldwells HC experiece was at Wake Forrest, which is known for its academics, and basketball. Not to mention that was 8 years ago I believe. The man is involved wih a winning organization, thus having far more to offer than Singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 g-dawg (1/7/2008)swiftkick (1/7/2008)He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelinesswiftkick, while I disagree with you on Singletary, I agree that Jim Caldwell scares me, too. His head coaching resume' is horrible at Wake Forest and he has the most "cushy" job in all NFL being Manning's quarterback coach. Manning coach's himself - he does not need a coach!Please tell me someone what has Jim Caldwell ever done? If he ends up being the coach, I will support him, but really - what is impressive about Caldwell besides he's just a "class guy" who worked for Tony Dungy?one thing that can't be overlooked is the fact that Tony Dungy publicly is recommending him for a HC position. Dungy is a man of utmost character and would not put his reputation on the line just for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 g-dawg (1/7/2008)swiftkick (1/7/2008)He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelinesswiftkick, while I disagree with you on Singletary, I agree that Jim Caldwell scares me, too. His head coaching resume' is horrible at Wake Forest and he has the most "cushy" job in all NFL being Manning's quarterback coach. Manning coach's himself - he does not need a coach!Please tell me someone what has Jim Caldwell ever done? If he ends up being the coach, I will support him, but really - what is impressive about Caldwell besides he's just a "class guy" who worked for Tony Dungy?more and more I am leaning towards Garret who you like smackie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)Robert William (1/7/2008)really....this from a guy who wants singletery...a linebackers coach who started his coaching career in 2003!!!!....has only ever coached one position .....no head coaching experience.....good one! NO THANKSSingletary deserves a s chance before giving Caldwell one...He had hiswhere was caldwell a head coach? what time span was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlfalcon78 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 g-dawg (1/7/2008)who worked for Tony Dungy?Dungy wouldn't step up unless he knew the guy could handle the job. I think Dungy's past success and the success of his past coaches goes a long way for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 joremari (1/7/2008)swiftkick (1/7/2008)Robert William (1/7/2008)really....this from a guy who wants singletery...a linebackers coach who started his coaching career in 2003!!!!....has only ever coached one position .....no head coaching experience.....good one! NO THANKSSingletary deserves a s chance before giving Caldwell one...He had hiswhere was caldwell a head coach? what time span was it?It was at Wake Forest ...regardless he couldnt build a successful college program what makes you think he is going to be atleast bit successful here..Id rather take a chance on a hot cord that seems to being getting praised around the league then a coach that had a chance now does nothing in IndyWe all Know Manning runs the offense ...of course Manning is going to say nice words about him but lets be honest ..Manning wouldnt have lost a step with or without Caldwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 atlfalcon78 (1/7/2008)g-dawg (1/7/2008)who worked for Tony Dungy?Dungy wouldn't step up unless he knew the guy could handle the job. I think Dungy's past success and the success of his past coaches goes a long way for me.I am sure Dungy will not bad mouth any coach being he is a class act.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 great...lets take a chance on a coordinator...... we would rather take a chance on someone who has been in COACHING for a TOTAL of 3 YRS....swiftkick you might as well send in your resume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)joremari (1/7/2008)swiftkick (1/7/2008)Robert William (1/7/2008)really....this from a guy who wants singletery...a linebackers coach who started his coaching career in 2003!!!!....has only ever coached one position .....no head coaching experience.....good one! NO THANKSSingletary deserves a s chance before giving Caldwell one...He had hiswhere was caldwell a head coach? what time span was it?It was at Wake Forest ...regardless he couldnt build a successful college program what makes you think he is going to be atleast bit successful here..Id rather take a chance on a hot cord that seems to being getting praised around the league then a coach that had a chance now does nothing in IndyWe all Know Manning runs the offense ...of course Manning is going to say nice words about him but lets be honest ..Manning wouldnt have lost a step with or without Caldwellexactly, Wake Forest in the mid to late 90s. Now tell me about the level of competition in the ACC at that time span. Doesn't seem like Garret wants the job here, at least according to Peter King. He may be wrong at times, but King isn't the type of guy to just make something up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)atlfalcon78 (1/7/2008)g-dawg (1/7/2008)who worked for Tony Dungy?Dungy wouldn't step up unless he knew the guy could handle the job. I think Dungy's past success and the success of his past coaches goes a long way for me.I am sure Dungy will not bad mouth any coach being he is a class act..im sure dungy wouldn't have said a word then if he didn't think caldwell was ready. dungy has built himself up a reputation. he wouldn't put that on the line for just anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Robert William (1/7/2008)great...lets take a chance on a coordinator...... we would rather take a chance on someone who has been in COACHING for a TOTAL of 3 YRS....swiftkick you might as well send in your resumecoaching experince doesnt phase me...We are in a rebuilding process.Its going to take atleast 3 years write the ship ..Why not have a young coach face adversity now and let him build this franchise back up..Yes in todays NFL you can have a bad year like we did and make the playoffs next but what we needs is to build a winning franchise that makes consecutive playoff apperances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Yes..i think we can all agree on that...but what makes...someone young, and less experienced better for the job than someone who has more coaching experience....im not saying caldwell is the answer....just not buying that it is someone who has only been in coaching 3-5 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 im not sure how you can say coaching experience doesnt phase you...if thats the case why are you promoting anyone...there can be no deciding factor to hire anyone.....are we going to pick out of a hat...someone has to bring something more to the table.....then Ill take the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)Robert William (1/7/2008)great...lets take a chance on a coordinator...... we would rather take a chance on someone who has been in COACHING for a TOTAL of 3 YRS....swiftkick you might as well send in your resumecoaching experince doesnt phase me...We are in a rebuilding process.Its going to take atleast 3 years write the ship ..Why not have a young coach face adversity now and let him build this franchise back up..Yes in todays NFL you can have a bad year like we did and make the playoffs next but what we needs is to build a winning franchise that makes consecutive playoff apperancesjust b/c it takes three years usually to build a truelly strong team doesn't mean you can't win now. if you think we are in a mess, look what new orleans went through in 2005 and they bounced back one year later in the NFCCG. they hired a good, young, hot coordinator, brought in some talent, and are won. Sure, they are still rebuilding, but i bet they are much happier to have gone 11-5 the first year of their rebuilding process.and seriously, who in our division is really good? No one. Every team can be beat. The falcons can, with the right moves, definently compete next year.Rebuilding is not an excuse to mail in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 coaching experince doesnt phase me...We are in a rebuilding process.Its going to take atleast 3 years write the ship ..Why not have a young coach face adversity now and let him build this franchise back up..Yes in todays NFL you can have a bad year like we did and make the playoffs next but what we needs is to build a winning franchise that makes consecutive playoff apperancesok...i can live with that..lets say we do go with young face...after three years...if things are not working out like we want...what do we blame it on...oh he was young??? he didnt have enough experience....why are we so sure someone young is going to turn it around...and why three years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 swiftkick (1/7/2008)g-dawg (1/7/2008)swiftkick (1/7/2008)He is Indy holding a clipboard and getting Manning his gatorade on the sidelinesswiftkick, while I disagree with you on Singletary, I agree that Jim Caldwell scares me, too. His head coaching resume' is horrible at Wake Forest and he has the most "cushy" job in all NFL being Manning's quarterback coach. Manning coach's himself - he does not need a coach!Please tell me someone what has Jim Caldwell ever done? If he ends up being the coach, I will support him, but really - what is impressive about Caldwell besides he's just a "class guy" who worked for Tony Dungy?more and more I am leaning towards Garret who you like smackie ?swiftkick,honestly right now nobody jumps out at me other than Marty Schottenheimer who we apparently either is not interested or we are not pursuing.So, for now, I guess I am in the position of "throwing stones" at candidates without really having a guy that I "back" for the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiftkick Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 Robert William (1/7/2008)coaching experince doesnt phase me...We are in a rebuilding process.Its going to take atleast 3 years write the ship ..Why not have a young coach face adversity now and let him build this franchise back up..Yes in todays NFL you can have a bad year like we did and make the playoffs next but what we needs is to build a winning franchise that makes consecutive playoff apperancesok...i can live with that..lets say we do go with young face...after three years...if things are not working out like we want...what do we blame it on...oh he was young??? he didnt have enough experience....why are we so sure someone young is going to turn it around...and why three years?I am at the point we need a coach that will be around for 8 years +I just dont feel Caldwell will be..I cant predict the future and say who will be the better head coach but I am more willing to take a chance on a younger coach with what seems to be a good football mind then a older coach that has had his chanceOnly time will telll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansincebartkowski Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Swiftkick, having read your post tag line and content, I think your guaging Caldwell only on a "stat". A W/L record doesn't mean squat (Petrino). I've been a member of these boards since 2005, I've had plenty of opportunity to have read your posts in the past and you are quite fair and reasonably accurate in your assessments. You post with the best interest of this team in mind. I feel the following portion of Caldwell's Bio speaks volumes over the stat of his W/L record and should be considered since he obviously took over a poor program at Wake Forest and made them a contender during his tenure: "Caldwell spent 1993-2000 as head coach at Wake Forest. In 1999, Caldwell led the school to its first winning season and bowl game since 1992. Wake Forest defeated Arizona State, 23-3, in the Aloha Bowl. During Caldwell s tenure, Wake Forest ranked among the nation s Top 25 teams in passing offense on four different occasions, including 10th in the NCAA in 1995. That season, QB-Rusty LaRue established seven NCAA passing records." Now, I know he is looked upon as a QB guru, but the QB is only as good as his front line, no? We are in need of an offensive rebuild, no? What would it be like with Caldwell as HC? Caldwell also has been a defensive player and coach so he is well rounded. Caldwell, or anyone else for that matter will certainly build their own team of coaches and assistants. Caldwell comes with a fine resume, and very good references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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