totalbirdbrain Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I don't know if this was posted anywhere, but it does appear we get a 7th roundpick from the Pittsburgh Steelers per LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Any word on the Kerney pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 I would think the Kerney pick would have to be a 3rd with his production and pro-bowl. But it will be a 4th at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capATL Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 The Rossum pick comes to us through a trade. The Kerney pick will be a compensatory pick because we lost him through free agency. I believe that comp picks are announced at the winter meetings that are held [i believe] after the combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalbirdbrain Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Vicious, the Compensatory picks are announced usually around theend of March. Patrick Kerney's performance and Pro Bowl appearance should probably get usa top compensatory pick in next years draft if we indeed get a pick. I amconcerned, though, as to which players will get counted.We signed five unrestricted free agents last year Marcus Wilkins (Cincinnati), Ovie Mughelli (Baltimore), Lewis Sanders (Houston),Leander Jordan (San Diego), and Billy Cundiff (New Orleans). We lost three unrestricted free agents last yearPatrick Kerney (Seattle), Justin Griffith (Oakland), and Ashley Lelie (San Francisco).Although not all of our players were kept, I am not sure who is actually coveredunder the league formula, it wouldn't shock me if we got denied any compensatorypicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 totalbirdbrain (1/5/2008)Vicious, the Compensatory picks are announced usually around theend of March. Patrick Kerney's performance and Pro Bowl appearance should probably get usa top compensatory pick in next years draft if we indeed get a pick. I amconcerned, though, as to which players will get counted.We signed five unrestricted free agents last year Marcus Wilkins (Cincinnati), Ovie Mughelli (Baltimore), Lewis Sanders (Houston),Leander Jordan (San Diego), and Billy Cundiff (New Orleans). We lost three unrestricted free agents last yearPatrick Kerney (Seattle), Justin Griffith (Oakland), and Ashley Lelie (San Francisco).Although not all of our players were kept, I am not sure who is actually coveredunder the league formula, it wouldn't shock me if we got denied any compensatorypicks.i think the size of the contract matters just as much as the number of players. mughelli is likely cancelled out by griffith and lelie, but the other 4 guys are scrubs and dont make nearly as much as kerney, so i expect to get a 3rd for him. was sanders cut? i really feel like he was. same with cundiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birds_till_death Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 i think your right. i'm about 90% sure i read when we picked up lewis sanders that he was released. so if i understand things right, that shouldn't count as a free-agent signing in relation to comp picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalbirdbrain Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 Being released by the Texans isn't listed in Sander's bio.I believe he was lost to free agency after being placed and finishing outthat season on Houston's IR for a hand injury.Below is a link that indicates that Sanders was lost to Free Agency from theTexans' official website.Link #1Although the exact criteria isn't divulged, receipt of compensatory picks isprimarily based upon "net loss" of compensatory free agents:Link #2 NFL Press ReleasePerformance and Salary are taken into account, as last year, the Bengals were awardeda pick even though "it did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents."In this case the "free agents Cincinnati lost were ranked higher than the ones it signed". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 For the record, I'm not certain this is accurate. That pick was predicated upon performance, and Rossum had a return TD as well as a good season on the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalbirdbrain Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 jidady, I am not saying that just because it is on the Atlanta Falconsteam website that it has to be accurate either, but while Rossum had adecent season on special teams (over 1000 yards of total return yardage),but he only had 5 total tackles, so he didn't particularly tear it up as a defensiveback.Weren't you real knowledgeable last season under a different screen nameon the compensatory picks? If so, what are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 My point there was that just because it's on the Falcons web site doesn't make it 100% accurate. They originally sourced us with the #3 due to AJC for the same reason we believed it. The people running the site get their information from the same places we do.With regards to my prior nick, it was vickgasmic if you noticed me then. I'm an animal lover, so there was no chance I was going to leave it at that given what we now know about our disgraced QB. I have followed compensatory picks for many years now, and I realize they are complex to anticipate. With regards to Kerney, I would be shocked if he were anything less than a third rounder. In fact, it occasionally (but rarely) happens that a team gets compensation beyond that. What has to happen is that not enough free agents qualify for compensation. When that happens, the extra picks go to teams who were next closest or who lost the best free agents. So, I think that Atlanta has a chance to not only get a 3rd rounder, the #92 most likely, but also a pick around #250 as well, just for Kerney. The formula heavily factors in sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Long© Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sorry Guys, Sanders was placed on IR near the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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