capATL Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I have seen several references to Joe Flacco being compared to Big Ben. He is big, strong, sheds tacklers, has a quick release, and stands in the pocket tall and confident.I have not seen similar comparisons for the other QBs in the draft. What about Brohm, Ryan, Woodson, Dixon, Brennan, Henne, Booty, Ainge, or any of the others? Who do they remind you of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood32 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - Marc BulgerRyan - Bust i dunno?Woodson - Byron Leftwich (no injuries)Dixon - David GarrardFlacco - Big Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - Peyton (mentally) at best; Bulger at worst--Injuries have to be considered.Ryan - Tom Brady at best; Derek Anderson at worst --Spreads the ball around and can still get it done w/ little talent; put a supporting cast around him and then you really get BradyWoodson - Byron Leftwich (no injuries); agree with this one. David Carr at worseDixon - Seneca Wallace or WRFlacco - The only resemblance to Big Ben is height. He's a pocket guy, has a big arm; but is not mobile like Big Ben. Palmer at best or just flat out hype; great arm thoughAinge: Possibly the greatest boom or bust guy in the draft; Schaub comes to mind w/ him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRob215 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brian Brohm - Kurt Warner ...Doesn't posses a great arm, but extremely accurate.Matt Ryan - Eli Manning ...Has skills, but struggles with accuracy and INTs.Andre Woodson - Jason Campbell ...Strong arm, decent accuracy, but could take time to develop.Colt Brennan - Phillip Rivers ...Similar side arm release and level of accuracy.Joe Flacco - Derek Anderson ...Too immobile to be compared to Big Ben.Dennis Dixon - Vince Young ...Mobile, but has a weak arm that was hidden by the spread option at Oregon (same with Young at Texas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - Carson PalmerRyan - Derrick AndersonHenne - Drew Brees with more arm strengthFlacco - Big Ben with less speed but equal escapabilityAinge - Rex Grosman (big arm but too many mistakes)Woodson - Kerry Collins in his prime. Brennen - Convenient store clerkDixon - Seneca Wallace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 When exactly was Kerry Collins' prime?2000 NYG 16 3610 22 13 2001 NYG 16 3764 19 16 2002 NYG 16 4073 19 14 2003 NYG 13 3110 13 16 2004 OAK 14 3495 21 20 2005 OAK 15 3759 20 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I didn't say he was a great QB by any stretch of the imagination. That time frame I showed was Kerry Collins at his best or in his prime.....I would expect something similar from Woodson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
215FalconsFanatic Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - Matt HasselbackRyan - Brett FavreWoodson - Jason CampbellDixon - VickFlacco - Big BenThese are based on style of play and similar skill set. basically the ceiling for their talents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 M.Ryan=E.Manning(good QB but forces the issue)B.Brohm=M.Bulger(smart, decent arm, but durability issues)A.Woodson=P.Rivers(Big, good arm, but lacks great pocket presence..also funky delivery)C.Henne=J.Delhomme(a little short, good arm and can make all the throws/gets banged up)E.Ainge=C.Pennington(good size and smarts, but lacks ideal arm strength)J.Flacco=D.Anderson(ideal size and arm strength, but college career leaves ?????)D.Dixon=D.McNabb(good size/height, good arm strength and can run/some injury concerns)C.Brennan=A.Smith(ok size, good arm strength, but ?able comp. in college/ system QB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 squirreldawg (1/4/2008)M.Ryan=E.Manning(good QB but forces the issue)B.Brohm=M.Bulger(smart, decent arm, but durability issues)A.Woodson=P.Rivers(Big, good arm, but lacks great pocket presence..also funky delivery)C.Henne=J.Delhomme(a little short, good arm and can make all the throws/gets banged up)E.Ainge=C.Pennington(good size and smarts, but lacks ideal arm strength)J.Flacco=D.Anderson(ideal size and arm strength, but college career leaves ?????)D.Dixon=D.McNabb(good size/height, good arm strength and can run)C.Brennan=A.Smith(ok size, good arm strength, but ?able comp. in college/ system QB)Ainge makes too many mistakes for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFalcon19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brian Brohm: Philip RiversMatt Ryan: Matt HasselbeckAndre Woodson: Jay CutlerChad Henne: Jon KitnaErik Ainge: Jason CampbellColt Brennan: JP LosmanDennis Dixon: Tavaris JacksonJohn David Booty: Bruce GradkowskiJoe Flacco: Gus Frerotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JRob215 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 FalcsForLife (1/4/2008)Woodson - Kerry Collins in his prime.Actually, I think that comparison is dead on. Look at their releases, and you'll see they are almost identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange_Crush Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I'd say...Brian Brohm: Matt HasselbeckMatt Ryan: Rex GrossmanAndre Woodson: Jason Campbell/Philip RiversI'd take a Hasselbeck over any of those other guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 JRob215 (1/4/2008)FalcsForLife (1/4/2008)Woodson - Kerry Collins in his prime.Actually, I think that comparison is dead on. Look at their releases, and you'll see they are almost identical.Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 squirreldawg (1/4/2008)M.Ryan=E.Manning(good QB but forces the issue)B.Brohm=M.Bulger(smart, decent arm, but durability issues)A.Woodson=P.Rivers(Big, good arm, but lacks great pocket presence..also funky delivery)C.Henne=J.Delhomme(a little short, good arm and can make all the throws/gets banged up)E.Ainge=C.Pennington(good size and smarts, but lacks ideal arm strength)J.Flacco=D.Anderson(ideal size and arm strength, but college career leaves ?????)D.Dixon=D.McNabb(good size/height, good arm strength and can run/some injury concerns)C.Brennan=A.Smith(ok size, good arm strength, but ?able comp. in college/ system QB)I can understand you Ryan, Brohm, Flaccom, and to some extent Woodson and Henne comparisons (Although this is the first time Henne has been injured) but I strongly dissagree with the others. Ainge's smarts are his weakness....he deffinatly has an NFL armDixon doesn't have near the arm strength, accuracy, or awareness of McNabbAnd Brennan's arm is pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRob215 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 And Brennan's arm is patheticI'd disagree. In terms of how far he can throw the ball, who knows, but he can put a lot of zip on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcsForLife Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 JRob215 (1/4/2008)And Brennan's arm is patheticI'd disagree. In terms of how far he can throw the ball, who knows, but he can put a lot of zip on the ball.I've watched him play 3 or 4 times this year and I;ve never seen him put anything I would call zip on the ball. With his low release, weak arm, and ****** attitude I don't see Brennan ever making it in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Offseason Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 not to rain on anyones parade, but the more i think about it the more i realize how DUMB it is to compare NFL prospects to players already competing in the NFL. none of them are ever going to be the same, so why compare them? it just gives you a false representation of either what to expect or what their strengths or weaknesses are, which is only a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan minnich Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 matt ryan-tom brady, i really dont think many of you have watched this guy play and if you have it was prob. only a game or 2. he has a great arm, quick realese and is a leader. he did the most with 0 talent around him.andre woodson- kerry collins i thought was a great comparison. this guy i believe is a bust.dennis dixion- akili smith- this is another guy who i think will be a bust.brohm- not really sure cause i havent watched that much of him to be honest.joe flacco- drew bledsoeother guys who i would need to watch a little before i say anything is henne, john david. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Falcon Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - BradyRyan - GrossmanFlacco - BollerWoodson - Culepepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 FalcsForLife (1/4/2008)squirreldawg (1/4/2008)M.Ryan=E.Manning(good QB but forces the issue)B.Brohm=M.Bulger(smart, decent arm, but durability issues)A.Woodson=P.Rivers(Big, good arm, but lacks great pocket presence..also funky delivery)C.Henne=J.Delhomme(a little short, good arm and can make all the throws/gets banged up)E.Ainge=C.Pennington(good size and smarts, but lacks ideal arm strength)J.Flacco=D.Anderson(ideal size and arm strength, but college career leaves ?????)D.Dixon=D.McNabb(good size/height, good arm strength and can run/some injury concerns)C.Brennan=A.Smith(ok size, good arm strength, but ?able comp. in college/ system QB)I can understand you Ryan, Brohm, Flaccom, and to some extent Woodson and Henne comparisons (Although this is the first time Henne has been injured) but I strongly dissagree with the others. Ainge's smarts are his weakness....he deffinatly has an NFL armDixon doesn't have near the arm strength, accuracy, or awareness of McNabbAnd Brennan's arm is pathetic:unsure:.......I don't think we are watching the same games???? From the games I have seen: (1) Ainge's arm-strength is average at best, that is what leads to the INTs more so than the decision making. But I guess it can be looked at as bad decisions to think you can make a throw that your arm can't pull off. He is very football smart(just ask Cutcliff). (2) Dixon's comparison was the best I could come up with for current QBs. His stats from 07 support this comparison, but that is just 1 season. Both mobile but look to throw first. I could also use Garrard I suppose. (3) Brennan's arm strength is above average from what I have seen. Also has a very quick release. By the way that comp. is Alex Smith not Akili.:w00t: . With that said, Brennan's position on the list was not by accident. Out of the Top QBs in the draft, I think he has the biggest "BUST" potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblade Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Brohm - BollerRyan - Grossman/Ryan Leaf godson Flacco - FavreWoodson - Leftwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papikaika Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 FalcsForLife (1/4/2008)Brennen - Convenient store clerkThat`s cold man.Why so much hate and animosity towards Brennan? I`ve watched every single Hawaii game Brennan has started and his arm strength is better than half, if not more than the QB`s in this draft.His release is uncanny, but quick. Accuracy is another positive for him. Put him behind a solid OLine and he will perform well. Yeah, he may have the biggest bust potential because of who he is, where he plays and the system he`s from, but he`s a heck of a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papikaika Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 FalcsForLife (1/4/2008)I've watched him play 3 or 4 times this year and I;ve never seen him put anything I would call zip on the ball. With his low release, weak arm, and ****** attitude I don't see Brennan ever making it in the NFL.I`m not sure if you were watching the same game as me. The only games you could`ve seen are the nationally televised games and he`s performed well in all.San Jose State - threw INT`s, but led his team back for a win.Fresno State - solid performance, got knocked out with a concussion. Hawaii won.Boise State - Lit up the Broncos D.Washington - Lit up the Huskies D.I gotta know, why all the hate and animosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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