Dirtybird Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 The dude can't cover my grandma. And the only way he can tackle is the "horse collar" aka Roy Williams tackle. Unbelieveble like we need another Cowboy in the **** thing anyway. NFC vs AFC, its more like Cowboys vs AFC. This really waters down the comment "He made pro bowl" **** Crocker should have went before him or maybe Jdub off the practice squad. ******** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicker Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 because the pro bowl is f-ing stupid. it's just a popularity contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I know what your saying-----the probowl is a watered down showcase of pre and post game events that real football fans only watch because it will be 8 months before summer practices. **** the superbowl is more of cause celeb that usually sucks. Its the playoff games leading up to the superbowl that count--------your just bitter like me because the falcons will blow for a couple of years-----sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood32 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Pro-Bowl is for the Bandwagon Fan's favorite team. Which is why everyone is from Green Bay and Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obmann Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 because you need not be good to go to the pro bowl. You must be only player of the Dallas Cowboys...That is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azfalcon928 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 People voted for him because they were afraid of getting horse collared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentVanBro Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Honestly the pro bowl is the biggest joke ever.Voting among fans is always based on name, and voting from coaches is always political. Thats why people like Roy Williams are going. People like Marion Barber are going.Honestly, I dont get how the cowboys OL got riddled with pro bowlers despite the fact that they havent been amazing this year and couldnt block with Bledsoe in to save their lives.I dont get how Al Harris, a guy I watched get ABUSED over and over in multiple games or Terrance Newman made it over Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dloistheman Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 true, Polumalu made it and misses a bunch of games. I can think of other safeties that should make before Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireAndyReid Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 it usually happens for players from teams with the best record in their conference.When the Eagles when to the Superbowl, they had like 8-9 players goIt is a joke though. Players who vote could care less and the fans who vote go mostly by name alone because they don't know any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sarcomere Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 First of all Crocker only had 50 tackles, second of all his name isnt nowhere near as big as Roy Williams is (even though he sucks:D), third of all the pro bowl is just a popularity contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Remember when YKW was making it with not so good stats? It has always been a popularity contest and always will be.Don't start complaining now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacksburgHokie Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 For the same reason that Ogden is in the pro bowl despite the fact he only started 10 games this season. It's all about name recognition, and people for whatever reason seem to think highly of Williams.Even though he's a huge liability against the pass and only decent against the run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Falcon Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 This year more than any in the pass to me, the pro bowl has become purely about popularity. If you look at the Pro Bowl rosters you really see that a look of players who should have made the team where not selected. look at the list of snubbed players:AFCQuarterback: David Garrard, Jacksonville. He isn't as flashy as Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger, but Garrard has made fewer mistakes while guiding the Jaguars (10-4) to a better record. Garrard has thrown just two interceptions along with his 16 touchdown passes. He also doesn't have the same kind of receiving weapons Roethlisberger has in Hines Ward, Heath Miller and Santonio Holmes.Running back: Fred Taylor, Jacksonville. Another example of a Steelers player (Willie Parker) getting the nod over a Jaguars standout. Taylor has surged in the past five games with a 114.4-yard rushing average and three touchdowns. In that same span, Parker is averaging 88.8 yards and hasn't scored. Besides the Steelers having a larger fan following, Taylor also was hurt by Pro Bowl balloting winding down as his surge began.Wide receiver: Wes Welker, New England. Cleveland's Braylon Edwards has 13 touchdown catches, but his 69 receptions pale in comparison to Welker's 96. Welker also has blossomed into the NFL's best slot receiver. The AFC's Pro Bowl coach should designate Welker who is also a standout returner as his "need" player.Tight end: Kellen Winslow, Cleveland. While San Diego's Antonio Gates is enjoying another fine season, Winslow has proven he belongs in the upper echelon of NFL tight ends. Winslow has more catches (71 to 69) and is a better blocker than Gates even though he is playing with shoulder and knee problems.Offensive line: Joe Thomas, Cleveland. This could be Ogden's swansong, as he considered retiring last off-season. That would create a future Pro Bowl opening for Thomas, who already proved worthy of the honor during his rookie season.Defensive line: Mario Williams, Houston. Williams has started to justify his status as last year's No. 1 pick, notching nine sacks in the past five games. Miami's Taylor logged his sixth career season with double-digit sacks but appears to have lost a step. At 22, Williams will have plenty of future chances for Pro Bowl glory.Defensive tackle: Haloti Ngata, Baltimore. Ngata is a major reason why the lowly Ravens (4-10) lead the AFC in rushing defense while allowing a paltry 2.8 yards a carry. The 340-pound Ngata also creates sack opportunities for others by crashing into the offensive line when deployed as a pass-rusher. He was arguably a better choice than San Diego's Jamal Williams.Linebacker: Thomas Howard, Oakland. Howard was the AFC's top coverage linebacker, leading his position in interceptions (six) and passes defensed (17). Such prowess was overshadowed by the pass rush skills of Pro Bowl outside linebackers Shawne Merriman and James Harrison.Defensive back: Leigh Bodden, Cleveland. Bodden's 80 tackles rank second among all AFC cornerbacks and are 47 more than what San Diego's Antonio Cromartie logged. Cromartie landed a Pro Bowl nod with 10 interceptions but isn't as solid in run support as Bodden, who is credited with seven turnovers of his own.Specialist: Mike Scifres, San Diego. Shane Lechler's booming punts earned the Oakland punter a third career Pro Bowl berth. Scifres, though, is better when it comes to hang time and pinning opponents deep inside their own territory.NFCQuarterback: Drew Brees, New Orleans. The final spot behind Tony Romo and Brett Favre was a toss-up between Brees and Seattle's Matt Hasselbeck, who was given the nod. Brees is on pace to finish with even gaudier passing statistics than in 2006 even though he is forced to carry more of the offense with running back Deuce McAllister (knee) out since the third game.Running back: Earnest Graham, Tampa Bay. Dallas' Marion Barber is fabulous in the fourth quarter and short-yardage situations, but should a non-starter receive Pro Bowl accolades? Graham has flourished replacing the injured Cadillac Williams and Michael Pittman. Since becoming a starter nine games ago, Graham has averaged 81.1 rushing yards and caught 43 passes. He also has at least one rushing touchdown in six consecutive games. Graham is another victim of not gaining recognition until later in the season.Wide receiver: Marques Colston, New Orleans. It's a shame the NFC doesn't have space for a fifth receiver. All four selections starters Terrell Owens and Larry Fitzgerald and backups Torry Holt and Donald Driver were solid. Colston, though, has managed to shine in an injury plagued season with statistics (87 catches for 1,092 yards and nine touchdowns) that compare favorably to the NFL's elite.Tight end: Jeremy Shockey, New York Giants. A broken fibula would have kept Shockey out of the game but he was a more worthy reserve selection than Washington's Chris Cooley. Shockey is a better blocker and, despite not being used as frequently as a pass receiver as Cooley, has only three fewer catches with 57.Offensive line: Chad Clifton, Green Bay. The Packers deserved to have at least one lineman selected considering Favre has only gotten sacked 13 times playing in a pass-heavy offense. Clifton, who protects Favre's blindside at left tackle, is the best of the bunch.Defensive end: Trent Cole, Philadelphia. Osi Umenyiora is a pass-rushing force, but six of his 12 sacks came in one game against the Eagles. Cole has more sacks (12.5) despite not having a player of Michael Strahan's caliber drawing blocking help on the opposite side. Cole also leads Philadelphia's defensive linemen in tackles with 65; Umenyiora has 43.Defensive tackle: Mike Patterson, Philadelphia. Chicago's Tommie Harris was named a Pro Bowl backup despite having just 32 tackles. Patterson was more productive (62 tackles) and a better pass rusher than Harris, who hasn't regained the same form since suffering a season-ending leg injury in 2006.Linebacker: Ernie Sims, Detroit. Like Harris, Briggs seems to have gotten chosen based more on last year's performance. Sims has become Detroit's version of Derrick Brooks in the Tampa-two defense that former Bucs assistant Rod Marinelli brought to the Lions. Sims has more tackles (122 to 94) and forced fumbles (three to two) than Briggs while playing on a unit with far less talent.Defensive back: O.J. Atogwe, St. Louis. Atogwe is playing his best football as the season comes to a close. He has at least one interception in five of the past six games including two last Sunday against Favre and has notched 32 tackles over the span.Specialist: Mason Crosby, Green Bay. Crosby has more touchbacks and field goals as well as a better conversion rate than Pro Bowl honoree and fellow rookie Nick Folk of Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdot falcon Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 bush (1/3/2008)First of all Crocker only had 50 tackles, second of all his name isnt nowhere near as big as Roy Williams is (even though he sucks:D), third of all the pro bowl is just a popularity contest.Fourth of all, Crocker plays FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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