scott24falcs Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 dirtybird7181 (1/2/2008)scott24falcs (1/2/2008)jidady (1/2/2008)BillyWitchDoctor (1/2/2008)IMO Milner wasn't looking too bad before his injury, which I think Joey completely baited him into. I don't think he dropped anything thrown his way and his blocking skills were actually pretty good.Yup, the Milner pick was a head scratcher at the time but to his credit, he was really coming on for us when he got hurt. I was surprised by how well he acclimated to the NFL. He appears to have been a good pick for us at #133, which is something I never expected to type. Laurent Robinson and him were the two picks that were crucified on this board, but each player very well as a rookie. To a larger point, the entirety of this thread is criticizing the Falcons for not drafting a kicker who went in the sixth round. The Falcons could have drafted him with their fifth round pick. Instead, they turned that selection into Doug Datish, David Irons and Daren Stone. I'd rather have the three football players than the kicker.Ahh, finally someone with some sense. It's trade like that one that will get us to be a good team, with a lot of depth, sooner rather than later.yeah,A LOT of sense right there...... not can Datish,Irons, or Stone kick FG's?We would have beaten Jacksonville if we had a FG kicker. Datish got hurt in training camp, Irons has been hurt, and played special teams, did Stone EVEN play at all? I'd rather have the kicker.We got 3 players for ONE. Yeah, we shouldn't have taken Datish since we knew he would get injured :Wow: Yes, Stone played. He played very well on ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 dirtybird7181 (1/2/2008)yeah,A LOT of sense right there...... not can Datish,Irons, or Stone kick FG's?We would have beaten Jacksonville if we had a FG kicker. Datish got hurt in training camp, Irons has been hurt, and played special teams, did Stone EVEN play at all?Stone played in 12 games, Irons was our best special teams player, and Datish is considered a potential long term solution at center. If you prioritize the kicking game over the offensive line, you're entitled to your opinion but I think that's sheer madness. Give me a football player who could earn a starting spot over a kicker any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwell1 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 isproab (1/2/2008)A lot of teams passed on him, he was not even the first kicker taken. I think the high altitude scared a lot of teams off. I watched him in one of those post season competitions, you know, the kinds that are just for fun. He was like the first kicker eliminated from the kicking competition. We should easily be able to get a quality kicker in round 6.he wasn't even the 2nd.Justin Medlock(didn't work out) and Nick Folk went before Crosby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevelAces Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I remember thinking that the Falcons were going to grab him for sure in the 6th with their first pick. Then they passed on him and I thought there is absolutely NO WAY they pass on him again...only to have him taken the pick before the Falcons selected again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 31 other teams passed on him for 6 rounds.Hindsight is 20/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 RevelAces (1/2/2008)I remember thinking that the Falcons were going to grab him for sure in the 6th with their first pick. Then they passed on him and I thought there is absolutely NO WAY they pass on him again...only to have him taken the pick before the Falcons selected again.The guy they took instead was Trey Lewis. We're all pretty happy with the way that worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 jidady (1/2/2008)RevelAces (1/2/2008)I remember thinking that the Falcons were going to grab him for sure in the 6th with their first pick. Then they passed on him and I thought there is absolutely NO WAY they pass on him again...only to have him taken the pick before the Falcons selected again.The guy they took instead was Trey Lewis. We're all pretty happy with the way that worked out.Good point. I am not disappointed at all with Trey Lewis but it's still pretty bad when you have as many picks as this team had and you don't fill a position of absolute necessity to compete in the NFL. It's not like we didn't know we needed a kicker. The 2007 season started out just like 2006...easy to make missed field goals cost us games! Harrington was moving the ball the defense was making all the stops and oops our Kicker can't make a 27 yarder!!! BOOOO!!!!!! Try again from 35....MISS!!! this is sheer incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 BillyWitchDoctor (1/2/2008)I thought I read somewhere that Coutu booted a 58 yarder yesterday. Can anybody confirm this?Bring 'em home McBlank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanjason Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 As much as I love Mort, we really do need to address this kicking situation. It cost us games early in 06 and in 07. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid with the Golden Arm Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 james pinkham (1/2/2008)Who was the idiot who missed on the consensus #1 kicker in last years draft??? WHEN DO WE WISE UP AND DRAFT OR SIGN A SOLID KICKER??? We would have won a couple of those close early season games and gained confidence as a team. Please don't pretend we can continue without filling this position!!!Rich "The Franchise Killer" McKay does it again. He seems to have an issue with place kickers. I think that a kicker stole his girlfriend in high school or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 james pinkham (1/3/2008)Good point. I am not disappointed at all with Trey Lewis but it's still pretty bad when you have as many picks as this team had and you don't fill a position of absolute necessity to compete in the NFL. It's not like we didn't know we needed a kicker.This is a reasonable reply, but my counter to you is simple. Which of our 11 draft picks do you believe we didn't need? Our day two picks were Stephen Nicholas, Martrez Milner, Trey Lewis, David Irons, Doug Datish, Daren Stone, and Jason Snelling. Save for Datish, who was injured, all of those guys showed something this year. That's what makes this past draft so amazing for the Falcons. We got a player with everyone of our picks from the 4th round on. That pretty much never happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 The Kid with the Golden Arm (1/3/2008)Rich "The Franchise Killer" McKay does it again. He seems to have an issue with place kickers. I think that a kicker stole his girlfriend in high school or something.Please see the reply directly underneath this one. Rather than making a blanket statement, I would love to hear a detailed explanation of which of our day two draft picks you believe we should have ignored for a kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Flame me all you want, but at the time, I thought the decision to go with Prater was a good one. Everyone knew what we had in Billy Cundiff, a very average kicker. I know Prater had bounced around with a couple of teams during the preseason, but why not take a chance on him. He had a super-strong leg, and maybe kicking in a dome would help him out. It obviously didn't work out, but it was a risk that at the time, the FO thought was a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 jidady (1/3/2008)james pinkham (1/3/2008)Good point. I am not disappointed at all with Trey Lewis but it's still pretty bad when you have as many picks as this team had and you don't fill a position of absolute necessity to compete in the NFL. It's not like we didn't know we needed a kicker.This is a reasonable reply, but my counter to you is simple. Which of our 11 draft picks do you believe we didn't need? Our day two picks were Stephen Nicholas, Martrez Milner, Trey Lewis, David Irons, Doug Datish, Daren Stone, and Jason Snelling. Save for Datish, who was injured, all of those guys showed something this year. That's what makes this past draft so amazing for the Falcons. We got a player with everyone of our picks from the 4th round on. That pretty much never happens.Yeah pretty easy there. I hated the Martrez Milner pick. The guy dropped so many passes in college why would he even be considered in the seventh round??? Also, if I had to pick between Crosby and anyone of the guys you listed I would have picked Crosby because the need at the position was so incredibly GLARING that only a total imbecile would have thought we could pass him up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 "Yeah pretty easy there. I hated the Martrez Milner pick."Given the way Milner played this year, you shouldn't any more. He looked like a day two find.With regards to your other point, we are fundamentally opposed in football philosophy if you prioritize a kicker over a football player. There's a reason why only a quarter of the guys in the league have anything resembling tenure. They're viewed as disposable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 capologist (1/2/2008)I didn't like us picking Martrez Milner and would have cheerfully used that 5th rounder on Crosby...I felt the same way. Crosby had a rep of not having a stong enough leg.......guess that was a little wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 jidady (1/12/2008)"Yeah pretty easy there. I hated the Martrez Milner pick."Given the way Milner played this year, you shouldn't any more. He looked like a day two find.With regards to your other point, we are fundamentally opposed in football philosophy if you prioritize a kicker over a football player. There's a reason why only a quarter of the guys in the league have anything resembling tenure. They're viewed as disposable.They're all disposable until the game is on the line! When your whole football team is clicking and playing their hearts out only to miss a chip shot (multiple times) you can write the whole season off because guys will just quit playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokies&Falcons Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 james pinkham (1/2/2008)Who was the idiot who missed on the consensus #1 kicker in last years draft??? WHEN DO WE WISE UP AND DRAFT OR SIGN A SOLID KICKER??? We would have won a couple of those close early season games and gained confidence as a team. Please don't pretend we can continue without filling this position!!!I was highly upset when we did not pick him. I knew that we would end up regretting it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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