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Great response to an NYT article regarding Fox's horrible BCS coverage last night..


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Carter (1/2/2008)
I love that Michigan beat Florida. :laugh:

But yeah... commentating for the Sugar Bowl was horrible. Fox needs to leave college ball alone and let other networks cover it... cuz I have yet to see them put on anything remotely respectable when it comes to college football coverage. The only thing that doesn't flat out suck about their college coverage is when they show the rankings during their NFL coverage on Sundays.

It's pretty hard to mess up showing the rankings, though. :laugh:

I'm almost dreading the BCS title game coverage...

Yeah the coverage was pretty bad. They were way to obvious that they thought that the game would be a lot closer, well I'm glad that we showed them who was the better team!

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thaflameofatlanta (1/2/2008)
I didn't have a much of an allegiance to anybody in the Sugar Bowl...but if I were Georgia fan I'd be complaining about the commentary as well. That had to be the most biased commentary I'd seen in a LONG time. It was way too obvious that the announcers wanted badly to see an upset.

you know it's obvious when I have gator fans and auburn fans coming over to me at my job today and the one thing they talk about (after the complete domination) is how horrible and biased the commentary was. I didn't even have to say anything about it.

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SacFalcFan (1/2/2008)
Why isn't it okay for national media-types so state that programs like Hawaii simply aren't as good as programs from more established conferences?

FOX Sports spent $80 million to get the rights to cover the BCS bowl games, but apparently it purchased all it s announcers, camera crew, and replay ability at the dollar store.

I understand FOX wanted to be a player in the college football market, it s a lucrative one. But after watching the start of a second year of FOX BCS bowl coverage ? with it s haphazard BCS Selection show and awful 2008 Sugar Bowl ? one thing is clear: These people have no idea what they re doing.

Look, it was a dog of a game. Hawaii should have never been in New Orleans in the first place (well, OK, maybe for the New Orleans Bowl. I m sure they would have given Florida Atlantic a good game). But the BCS didn t do FOX any favors by choosing such a bad matchup for the Sugar. When the coaching staff of Hawaii calls a win over Nevada one of the biggest wins the program has ever had, there s a problem. Quick, name the Nevada mascot. Yeah, I thought so.

But you have to work with the tools you re given, and FOX couldn t tell the difference between a hammer and a hacksaw. To wit:

At one point play-by play announcer Thom (the H is for Horrible) Brennaman called the Bulldogs the Gators. That s akin to calling President Bush the leader of Iran, which he isn t (at least not at this point, anyway).

After lambasting the Bulldogs, who had second and third stringers in the game, for going for it on fourth and goal, Brennaman then praised the Warriors on the next series for not giving up. So the Bulldogs should stop playing, but not the Warriors?

Did they have any idea why Mark Richt challenged the call at the end of the third quarter? Were they curious?

Of course, the awful camera work didn t allow the audience to see any replay of worth. We still haven t seen Howard s fumble recovery.

According to FOX announcers, Brennan Southerland was the Bulldogs leading rusher in 2006. That s news to the four people who rushed for more yardage than he did, including quarterback Matthew Stafford

Let me get this straight, Remarcus Brown returns the ball 90 yards in a kickoff, but all the praise goes to the Hawaii player who caught him from behind?

Do we have any idea what injuries Colt Brennan had?

The commentary was horrible, you know Brenammen had pages of stuff to say if it was a close game, and after we scored that 2nd TD and they couldn't do a thing, that was out the window. They knew it was a rout. I would have them used Jimmy Johnson and Fran Tarkington as commentators then the bozos they used. they messed up on names called us the gators which is sacriledge. :P

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The commentators didn't have a clue, but I thought what was worse was the camera work...I think the camera men just stayed in one place all night...no shots of the crowd, just each school's band. Over and over and over again. I'm not gonna be able to get those crazy shirtless drummers out of my head for a looooong time...

And whoever was callin the shots on replays blew it too. I've never seen a game with as few replays shown as that one. And there were PLENTY of penalties, big hits, etc. that warranted a replay.

Just a bad production from FOX. From the commentators to the cameras to the guys in the truck, no one had a clue and it showed.

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dan9124 (1/2/2008)
The commentators didn't have a clue, but I thought what was worse was the camera work...I think the camera men just stayed in one place all night...no shots of the crowd, just each school's band. Over and over and over again. I'm not gonna be able to get those crazy shirtless drummers out of my head for a looooong time...

And whoever was callin the shots on replays blew it too. I've never seen a game with as few replays shown as that one. And there were PLENTY of penalties, big hits, etc. that warranted a replay.

Just a bad production from FOX. From the commentators to the cameras to the guys in the truck, no one had a clue and it showed.

it showed on the replay of the catch that richt challenged and won.. the angles were horrible and it was the worst camera work i have seen.. you didn't see close ups of the crowd.. i really didn't feel as I do with abc and cbs a quality type production..

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Demetrius Dew (1/2/2008)
Yeah right Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson slob all over the SEC those two are horrible at commentating.

Play by Play:

Brad Nessler is the man

Brett Musberger is alright

Anaylst:

Charles Davis is alright

Bob Greise is ok

Take Musberger out that group, he's too biased to call what's happening professionally. In fact, in the past few years he's probably the most unprofessional play by play guy in sports. Joe Buck calling a Cowboys game comes close, but not quite to Musberger's level.

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dan9124 (1/2/2008)
The commentators didn't have a clue, but I thought what was worse was the camera work...I think the camera men just stayed in one place all night...no shots of the crowd, just each school's band. Over and over and over again. I'm not gonna be able to get those crazy shirtless drummers out of my head for a looooong time...

And whoever was callin the shots on replays blew it too. I've never seen a game with as few replays shown as that one. And there were PLENTY of penalties, big hits, etc. that warranted a replay.

Just a bad production from FOX. From the commentators to the cameras to the guys in the truck, no one had a clue and it showed.

bump. you hit the nail on the head.

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Sniper Wolf (1/2/2008)
Demetrius Dew (1/2/2008)
Yeah right Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson slob all over the SEC those two are horrible at commentating.

Play by Play:

Brad Nessler is the man

Brett Musberger is alright

Anaylst:

Charles Davis is alright

Bob Greise is ok

Take Musberger out that group, he's too biased to call what's happening professionally. In fact, in the past few years he's probably the most unprofessional play by play guy in sports. Joe Buck calling a Cowboys game comes close, but not quite to Musberger's level.

Ive never had a problem with Musberger, even from his days on CBS Sports and CBS NFL today back in the 80's with Irv Cross and Jimmy "the Greek".

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If FOX wants to continue parlaying as a college football network, they really need to revamp their commentating lineup.

Brennaman was one of the most illinformed, sloppy, biased, and completely unentertaining play-by-play announcers I have EVER heard. His sidekick in the booth could put anyone to sleep.

The OK-WVU game wasn't that much better. Aside from what seemed to be some sort of animosity between a couple of the commentators, this game might have had a bit more objectivity with the comments, but it was still worse than anything CBS, ABC/ESPN, and (dare I say) Lincoln Financial puts out there.

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LawDawg (1/3/2008)
If FOX wants to continue parlaying as a college football network, they really need to revamp their commentating lineup.

Brennaman was one of the most illinformed, sloppy, biased, and completely unentertaining play-by-play announcers I have EVER heard. His sidekick in the booth could put anyone to sleep.

The OK-WVU game wasn't that much better. Aside from what seemed to be some sort of animosity between a couple of the commentators, this game might have had a bit more objectivity with the comments, but it was still worse than anything CBS, ABC/ESPN, and (dare I say) Lincoln Financial puts out there.

I couldn't listen to the telecast last night...who did they have in the booth that seemed to be beefing with one another?

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Demetrius Dew (1/2/2008)
LawDawg (1/2/2008)
Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson are best college football commentating duo in the nation. Period.

I also like Brad Nessler alot, but ABC/ESPN surrounds him with idiots.

Yeah right Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson slob all over the SEC those two are horrible at commentating.

Play by Play:

Brad Nessler is the man

Brett Musberger is alright

Anaylst:

Charles Davis is alright

Bob Greise is ok

They "slob" over the SEC because their network is the official carrier of the SEC's games-of the-week. It's their job to cover the SEC as fervently as they can. I hardly doubt the Big Ten Network would "slob" over anything but the Big Ten.

And in case you missed the Sun Bowl (USF vs. Oregon), the commentating (led by Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson) was one of the most entertaining, well-informed, and unbiased of the entire bowl season. There's a reason why these two are so respected amongst sports journalism circles.

If you think Lundquist/Danielson are horrible, then you are either mad because you're deaf and they don't commentate in sign language, or you're just being anti-SEC and anything associated with it (even a network's coverage).

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LawDawg (1/3/2008)
If FOX wants to continue parlaying as a college football network, they really need to revamp their commentating lineup.

Brennaman was one of the most illinformed, sloppy, biased, and completely unentertaining play-by-play announcers I have EVER heard. His sidekick in the booth could put anyone to sleep.

The OK-WVU game wasn't that much better. Aside from what seemed to be some sort of animosity between a couple of the commentators, this game might have had a bit more objectivity with the comments, but it was still worse than anything CBS, ABC/ESPN, and (dare I say) Lincoln Financial puts out there.

Lincoln Financial is not that bad. Well the SEC coverage isnt bad. I dont know about the ACC version.

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Amen, finally some people who also picked up on the ridiculously bad coverage of all the BCS games. Whoever is producing the games for Fox should be fired, its that bad. And the announcers were pretty bad to, in all the games, but especially the sugar bowl. So Fox: fire your producer and dont ever try to boradcast college football ever again!

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Alford1811 (1/4/2008)
Amen, finally some people who also picked up on the ridiculously bad coverage of all the BCS games. Whoever is producing the games for Fox should be fired, its that bad. And the announcers were pretty bad to, in all the games, but especially the sugar bowl. So Fox: fire your producer and dont ever try to boradcast college football ever again!

Amen.

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