doc phil Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Rd1 glenn dorsey DT Ht: 6-2 Wt: 299 Position: DT Date of Birth: 8/1/1985 Class: Senior High School: East Ascension HS(Gonzales, LA) College: LSU Courtesy: www.LSUsports.nethttp://www.LSUsports.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWHdz2nygURd2a gosder cherilus OTClass:Senior Hometown:Somerville, MA High School:Somerville Height / Weight:6-7 / 319Position:OThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el4iCRhi7A4Rd2b kerry brown OGNumber: 76Class: Sr. Hometown: Marietta, Ga.High School: LassiterHeight: 6-6Weight: 310Position: OLBirthdate: June 19, 1985Kerry Brownhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2HjIu0S5nErd3a joe flacco QBJoe FlaccoUniversity of DelawareClass: SeniorHometown: Audobon, NJBorn: January 16, 1985High School: Audobon High SchoolHeight / Weight: 6-6 / 230Position: Quarterback Rd3b matt forte RBClass:Senior Hometown:Slidell, La. High School:Slidell Height / Weight:6-2 / 223 Position:Running Back Birthdate:12/10/1985 Experience:4L Major:Finance Rd4 philip wheeler LBClass:RS Senior Hometown:Columbus, Ga. High School:Shaw Height / Weight:6-2 / 238 Position:lb rd5 craig steltz sPOSITION: Safety HEIGHT: 6-2 WEIGHT: 204 CLASS: Junior EXPERIENCE: 1L HIGH SCHOOL: Archbishop Rummel HS HOMETOWN: New Orleans, Lahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG21YgB1uFwrd6 Brandon coutu kPlace Kicker - PK Height: 6-0 Weight: 182 Junior Previous Affiliations Collins Hill Rd7a bruce davis de Class:RS Senior Hometown:Houston, TX High School:Clear Creek Height / Weight:6-3 / 234 Position:DE Birthdate:09/02/1985 rd7b andrew bain OGClass:Senior Hometown:Pompano Beach, Fla. High School:Ely Height / Weight:6-3 / 344 Position:Guard Experience:3L Major:Psychology udfa jason foster kr/prNo. 4 Position WR Height 5-9 Weight 164 CL-EXP Sr Hometown Canton Previous School Cherokee County i know some of these might not fall but we can hope and hoping is good for the soulcomments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1989Fan Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Wheeler in 4 and Steltz in 5 is a pipedream.Both could go round 2-3 in this draft.Bruce Davis will be a OLB in the NFL. He would be a great 3-4 pass rush OLB. He isnt very strong in space, but has great pass rush instincts. He would get manhandled as a DE, especially in the run game.I would be all for those names on our team though for the most part. I dont think a guy like Forte is needed here. I dont know that he is any better than Snelling. Snelling was rated higher last season, but slipped due to his health concerns (epilepsy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 yeah i know they will not all fall but ****, maybe we can actually have some luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 i still like this draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnesiac34 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 doc phil (1/1/2008)any commentsDidn't we learn our lesson last night about QB's that play in low talent divisions against weak competition????????????????????And Wheeler will be gone by the 2nd round if not the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 well the qb he is compared to came from a small college too. And he won the super bowl his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnesiac34 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 doc phil (1/2/2008)well the qb he is compared to came from a small college too. And he won the super bowl his rookie year.Yah, I'm pretty sure those comparisons were made before last night's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 "Didn't we learn our lesson last night about QB's that play in low talent divisions against weak competition????????????????????"totally different. Brennan plays in a run n' shoot offense, which undoubtedly inflates his stats. Flacco plays in a pro-like offense, if I'm not mistaken. Flacco also has a great arm, great size, and can stand in the pocket and deliver the ball down field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnesiac34 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 A Flacco profile from a very good source. They hit 83% predicting the NFL Draft last year. I think this says it all. Joe Flacco QB DelawareSTRENGTHSJoe is a big, tall QB with a very strong arm. He can make all the throws and does a decent job at the college level of moving in the pocket. Joe is a pure drop back QB the kind the pro s love to work with and develop. He looks, acts and is a clone of Vinnie Testerverde (QB for the fill in a team here ). He runs the offense the very same way and has the same arm strength. If someone told me that Joe was Vinnie s son, I would believe it without question. Football-wise, the kid is a clone of Vinnie.NEEDS TO IMPROVEJoe has some significant flaws in his play on the field that will be magnified at the next level. He cannot take pressure in the pocket. Pressure affects his delivery and causes him to make bad decisions. Pressure causes Joe to lose accuracy and when Joe moves out of the pocket, he loses the ability to throw touch passes. Joe also lacks the real leadership quailities that will be needed for the next level. He is not ready for the big time and may never be the QB his arm strength suggests that he can be.TALENT BOARD ROUND 5Joe is a teaser. He is just like that beautiful girl across the room that keeps looking at you, but once you go up to her you find out it wasn t you she was flirting with it was the guy behind you! Joe is a pure drop back QB with a powerful arm. He is tall and has good size, but the problem is that Joe cannot perform and lead when the play all around him breaks down. He looks the part and that in itself is deceiving. He will be an excellent back-up QB, but if he plays any more than four games in a row, his negatives will rear their ugly heads and your team will start to lose. Joe, because of his size and arm strength, is a coach killer. It s just that simple. He does not have the mental strength to be a starting NFL QB, but will be an excellent fantasy QB. He will get you all the stats you want, but he will not be able to win the big game because he is an emotional flight risk once he is pressured in the pocket. You can develop a player s natural athletic talent, if it exists. You can develop a player s natural instincts, if they exist. But you cannot develop a player who does not have these abilities in the first place. Joe does not have the instincts or the leadership qualities to be a 16 game do whatever it takes type of QB for the next level. The good thing about it is that Joe will not be a 1st round pick and forced to do what he is not capable of doing because he has a great arm. If Joe is taken in the later rounds, he can improve his game at his own pace and become a **** of a back up QB for the team that drafts him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fideltom Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 scott24falcs (1/2/2008)"Didn't we learn our lesson last night about QB's that play in low talent divisions against weak competition????????????????????"totally different. Brennan plays in a run n' shoot offense, which undoubtedly inflates his stats. Flacco plays in a pro-like offense, if I'm not mistaken. Flacco also has a great arm, great size, and can stand in the pocket and deliver the ball down field.spot on, the only knock on Flacco so far is that he has a tendancy to hold the ball to long so could struggle to adjust to the speed of the NFL it has been said that this is due to him beliveing that he has the size to shake of pass rushers, only the things ive read that have been a knock against him but if we sit him and coach him correctly hes going to be a great prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I would like to know where that scouting report comes from. Also you say they hit 83% in last year's draft. If by that you mean out of all 200+ picks, they got 83% of them correct, then I'm calling BS on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 the same exact thing was said about big ben so i think he is worth to pick. He will need some grooming as a backup for a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnesiac34 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 scott24falcs (1/2/2008)I would like to know where that scouting report comes from. Also you say they hit 83% in last year's draft. If by that you mean out of all 200+ picks, they got 83% of them correct, then I'm calling BS on that one.You're right. It's not a percentage. It's a score. But Rich Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News had the top score and the Huddle Report was 2nd. This profile came from the Huddle Report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 the same exact thing was said about big ben so i think he is worth to pick. He will need some grooming as a backup for a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 the same exact thing was said about big ben so i think he is worth to pick. He will need some grooming as a backup for a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fideltom Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 well i cant veiw some of the Huddle reports stuff but on their free mock dated 13/12/2007 the have NE picking 2nd from SF granted but SF was not picking 2nd when they dated this so this leads me to doubt them unless it was a trade but there is no explanation for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 fideltom (1/2/2008)well i cant veiw some of the Huddle reports stuff but on their free mock dated 13/12/2007 the have NE picking 2nd from SF granted but SF was not picking 2nd when they dated this so this leads me to doubt them unless it was a trade but there is no explanation for thisNE owns SF first round pick this year, because of a trade in the 2007 draft. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnesiac34 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 fideltom (1/2/2008)well i cant veiw some of the Huddle reports stuff but on their free mock dated 13/12/2007 the have NE picking 2nd from SF granted but SF was not picking 2nd when they dated this so this leads me to doubt them unless it was a trade but there is no explanation for thisYah, I understand but I think that's just something that they threw together to try and get people interested in the site. I mean for $9.99 for the year, it's not a bad deal at all. And they guys will totally write you back if you have questions or disagreements with their analysis. It's pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 jamnesiac34 (1/2/2008)fideltom (1/2/2008)well i cant veiw some of the Huddle reports stuff but on their free mock dated 13/12/2007 the have NE picking 2nd from SF granted but SF was not picking 2nd when they dated this so this leads me to doubt them unless it was a trade but there is no explanation for thisYah, I understand but I think that's just something that they threw together to try and get people interested in the site. I mean for $9.99 for the year, it's not a bad deal at all. And they guys will totally write you back if you have questions or disagreements with their analysis. It's pretty cool.That's pretty neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 do you newbies simply copy other mocks and put together? Honestly, do you think with any coach we'll draft all lineman? A bunch of rookie lineman and a project QB, coupled w/ a small school rb--wow what an improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 MSalmon (1/2/2008)do you newbies simply copy other mocks and put together? Honestly, do you think with any coach we'll draft all lineman? A bunch of rookie lineman and a project QB, coupled w/ a small school rb--wow what an improvementIs there something wrong with your mind . im the doctor biaatch. I thought you should also know that when the board switched over i lost my screen name and started over with my real name. I actually had the same amount of post as you x 10:w00t: All i have to say is Get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc phil Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 MSalmon (1/2/2008)do you newbies simply copy other mocks and put together? Honestly, do you think with any coach we'll draft all lineman? A bunch of rookie lineman and a project QB, coupled w/ a small school rb--wow what an improvementIs there something wrong with your mind . im the doctor biaatch. I thought you should also know that when the board switched over i lost my screen name and started over with my real name. I actually had the same amount of post as you x 10:w00t: All i have to say is Get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fideltom Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 scott24falcs (1/2/2008)fideltom (1/2/2008)well i cant veiw some of the Huddle reports stuff but on their free mock dated 13/12/2007 the have NE picking 2nd from SF granted but SF was not picking 2nd when they dated this so this leads me to doubt them unless it was a trade but there is no explanation for thisNE owns SF first round pick this year, because of a trade in the 2007 draft. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for though.yhea i know it was a trade i and NE gets SF first pick but SF have never had thes econd overall pick so i just didn't understand why the site which is apparently so good could have made a mistake byshowing NE picking second overall insteadof around the 6th/7th pick which would have been more acurate for the time that they put the mock together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 you werent the most knowledgeable drafter prior to the switch either. Where did you get your degree? Online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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