j105 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 You cant be carried by one player, because eventually teams will figure out how to stop you. We need to address our actual problems instead of getting a rb with the first pick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris30277 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 vikings offensive line: LT: Bryant McKinnie LG: Steve HutchinsonOC: Matt BirkRG: Artis HicksRT: Ryan CookOur offensive line:LT: Wayne GandyLG: Justin BlalockOC: Todd McClureRG: Kynan ForneyRT: Todd WeinerThis is a big reason why Adrian Peterson is so successful in Minnesota, and why Darren McFadden will not be that successful if we bring him here. We need offensive help before we invest a high pick on a RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pickle Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 j105 (12/30/2007)You cant be carried by one player, because eventually teams will figure out how to stop you. We need to address our actual problems instead of getting a rb with the first pick....I often wonder if people take the time to really think about what they post.We can take Jake Long...but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.We can take Dorsey....but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.And so on and so forth.You are right, we need more than one player. But McFadden is the best in this class, and he plays an impact position, and we have an over the hill scatback, a twig legged change of pace guy, and a rb/fb tweener who is quite unproven....it's a position where we don't have a reliable option.....and the rest of the draft(and the next couple years too...we are a long way away) can be spent also grabbing BPA.McFadden doesn't turn us into a good team....he's just the best player availabe at a position of need...which should have been a nobrainer for a rebuilding team with no franchise face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 mr pickle (12/30/2007)j105 (12/30/2007)You cant be carried by one player, because eventually teams will figure out how to stop you. We need to address our actual problems instead of getting a rb with the first pick....I often wonder if people take the time to really think about what they post.We can take Jake Long...but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.We can take Dorsey....but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.And so on and so forth.You are right, we need more than one player. But McFadden is the best in this class, and he plays an impact position, and we have an over the hill scatback, a twig legged change of pace guy, and a rb/fb tweener who is quite unproven....it's a position where we don't have a reliable option.....and the rest of the draft(and the next couple years too...we are a long way away) can be spent also grabbing BPA.McFadden doesn't turn us into a good team....he's just the best player availabe at a position of need...which should have been a nobrainer for a rebuilding team with no franchise face.It's called people using the perfect solution fallacyOf course one player doesn't turn around a franchise.And because of that, that further signifies the importance of the rest of our picks in this draft which is why they should be as high as possible right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j105 Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 mr pickle (12/30/2007)j105 (12/30/2007)You cant be carried by one player, because eventually teams will figure out how to stop you. We need to address our actual problems instead of getting a rb with the first pick....I often wonder if people take the time to really think about what they post.We can take Jake Long...but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.We can take Dorsey....but we can't be carried by one player, so it's not a good pick.And so on and so forth.You are right, we need more than one player. But McFadden is the best in this class, and he plays an impact position, and we have an over the hill scatback, a twig legged change of pace guy, and a rb/fb tweener who is quite unproven....it's a position where we don't have a reliable option.....and the rest of the draft(and the next couple years too...we are a long way away) can be spent also grabbing BPA.McFadden doesn't turn us into a good team....he's just the best player availabe at a position of need...which should have been a nobrainer for a rebuilding team with no franchise face.I think you mistook my meaning here. I mean that you cant just have one weapon on offense, it just wont work. You have to have balance. Picking a great back will do nothing if we still have the same o-line, you have to fill your needs FIRST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pickle Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Look, Oline is clearly a need...they're just doesn't appear to be any olineman in this draft that is even in the same class with Dmac.....you can find good starting lineman in the 2nd round and on...the same place you can find good rb's, to, of course. But, if there is a superamazing rb, and a bunch of good ones, and there is no superamazing Olineman, and a bunch of good ones, doesn't it make sense to grab the top running back and pick up your share of the good olineman later, rather than simply reaching for the best of the olineman, and take a rb later....we have several years to address needs...this team is awful at oline, rb, interior dline, mlb, and the safeties are getting ready to be replaced. It's a major reclamation project, with no quick fix...almost every position is a need position...so you just go right down the list taking BPA...for several years....that's the best way to turn this around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busboyisback Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 mr pickle (12/30/2007)Look, Oline is clearly a need...they're just doesn't appear to be any olineman in this draft that is even in the same class with Dmac.....you can find good starting lineman in the 2nd round and on...the same place you can find good rb's, to, of course. But, if there is a superamazing rb, and a bunch of good ones, and there is no superamazing Olineman, and a bunch of good ones, doesn't it make sense to grab the top running back and pick up your share of the good olineman later, rather than simply reaching for the best of the olineman, and take a rb later....we have several years to address needs...this team is awful at oline, rb, interior dline, mlb, and the safeties are getting ready to be replaced. It's a major reclamation project, with no quick fix...almost every position is a need position...so you just go right down the list taking BPA...for several years....that's the best way to turn this around.There are several good Olinemen.They just will be gone at the beginning of the rounds before we pick them.The best guys available at our needs will be gone before we pick because several teams share the same needs.Teams we could have picked ahead of if we didn't beat the Seahawks backups in a game nobody will remember months from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only- the-truth Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Thank you........none of these people understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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