thaflameofatlanta Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Per Rotoworld:Rotoworld:Bill Parcells is expected to try to trade the Dolphins' No. 1 pick.Parcells is looking to gain multiple early picks, and also wants to avoid paying a high contract to a player who could be a bust. The Dolphins already have four picks in the first two rounds of the draft, but likely will try to add more as they overhaul their 1-14 team.So yeah, Miami doesn't want the #1 pick, apparently. I think Dallas might make a move for the pick. That's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott24falcs Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 They may have a hard time getting rid of the first pick. Not too many teams are going to want to give up multiple players/picks, as well as pay the hefty price for the number one pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sarcomere Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Why is this a bad thing? With Mcfadden most likely gone, that means the Falcons have even more of a chance of drafting Glenn Dorsey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 In this day and age, it's damned near impossible to trade the #1 pick. You can do #2 or lower, but with what happened on Eli Manning, I just don't see a GM running that risk right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 13 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Maybe the TUNA can get Dallas to throw in a "Bro" or "Man-zere" with those two 1st rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Storms Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Interesting scenario if you think about this for a minute: Dallas trades Marion Barber and a first rounder, possibly a lower pick or two to Atlanta in exchange for a top pick, then they trade their newly aquired #3-4 pick and perhaps a lower pick if necessary for the top spot and a clear shot at McFadden. It's a clear shot at McFadden that they would not get just throwing Barber and draft picks at us, and they wouldn't have trade all of their picks to Miami. (who would not be looking for Barber) Miami still gets one of the elite defensive prospects, or a quarterback if they're really ******** and desperate, Atlanta takes the trade and gets a running back rather than hope that the Jets take someone other than McFadden, who would be the most logical choice for that struggling offense, along with a quarterback or offensive linemen, and Dallas gets the star of the draft while making room. It won't happen, but it looks good on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poster Large Johnson Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 bush (12/29/2007)Why is this a bad thing? With Mcfadden most likely gone, that means the Falcons have even more of a chance of drafting Glenn Dorsey! which would be an awful decsionMcFadden or trade down & take Clady or Baker/Stewart or Clady or Baker/Felix Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedefensedefense Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 USCfalcons23 (12/30/2007)bush (12/29/2007)Why is this a bad thing? With Mcfadden most likely gone, that means the Falcons have even more of a chance of drafting Glenn Dorsey! which would be an awful decsionMcFadden or trade down & take Clady or Baker/Stewart or Clady or Baker/Felix JonesDude, just because you have your heart set on certain players, it doesnt mean someone else will be an 'awful' pick. Dorsey would be a wonderful pick for this franchise, he is rated as either the best or second best player in the draft and has drawn comparisons with Warren Sapp...He is a great prospect, that clogs runnings lanes and applies constant pressure on the QB... My only fear about this draft is the FO electing to take a QB OR missing out on an elite prospect, such as Dorsey/DMC... I really hope we are picking at #3 in the draft, it allows us IMO to hold all the cards for a trade down or to nab DMC if the FO wants to go in that direction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 they gonna offer it to CLE for Derek Anderson. Watch. Then CLE gets either McFadden to have a top 3 offense, or Dorsey or Long to help that ailing DL they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Interesting scenario if you think about this for a minute: Dallas trades Marion Barber and a first rounder, possibly a lower pick or two to Atlanta in exchange for a top pick, then they trade their newly aquired #3-4 pick and perhaps a lower pick if necessary for the top spot and a clear shot at McFadden. It's a clear shot at McFadden that they would not get just throwing Barber and draft picks at us, and they wouldn't have trade all of their picks to Miami. (who would not be looking for Barber) Miami still gets one of the elite defensive prospects, or a quarterback if they're really ******** and desperate, Atlanta takes the trade and gets a running back rather than hope that the Jets take someone other than McFadden, who would be the most logical choice for that struggling offense, along with a quarterback or offensive linemen, and Dallas gets the star of the draft while making room. It won't happen, but it looks good on paper.Dude, it looks to me like you're trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. First of all, Dallas is not going to be moving all the way up from #22 (which is about where they stand now without winning a single playoff game) to #3 by only giving up one player (Barber). Look at what the Giants had to give up a few years ago to land Eli and they didn't have near as far to go, then throw in a bit of inflation and you haven't even scratched the surface of what Dallas would have to give up to move up to #3, much less turn around and move up again to #1. That sort of mobility would require two whole drafts, and Dallas isn't going to give up 6-12 picks over the next two years to get one player when they already love Barber. What kind of sense does that make.To move up to #3 from where they are would probably require both of their first round picks, Barber and probably at least 1 first day pick in 09's draft if not more from the 09 draft.The only way Dallas can move up to get DMac is if someone like the Jets or Rams (the #2 selecting team) allows a straight switch of 2 picks for 1 in order to beat another team to the punch (Dallas' two first round picks). So, the only real way it'll happen that Dallas moves up into the area to get McFadden is if one of the top 4 teams doesn't want to pay a top 4 salary and are afraid another of the top teams is actually going to pull a switch with Dallas. That team, rightfully so, will also have to be under the impression that the talent distribution all through the first round is fairly evenly distributed.celtik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Storms Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 celtiksage (12/30/2007)Interesting scenario if you think about this for a minute: Dallas trades Marion Barber and a first rounder, possibly a lower pick or two to Atlanta in exchange for a top pick, then they trade their newly aquired #3-4 pick and perhaps a lower pick if necessary for the top spot and a clear shot at McFadden. It's a clear shot at McFadden that they would not get just throwing Barber and draft picks at us, and they wouldn't have trade all of their picks to Miami. (who would not be looking for Barber) Miami still gets one of the elite defensive prospects, or a quarterback if they're really ******** and desperate, Atlanta takes the trade and gets a running back rather than hope that the Jets take someone other than McFadden, who would be the most logical choice for that struggling offense, along with a quarterback or offensive linemen, and Dallas gets the star of the draft while making room. It won't happen, but it looks good on paper.Dude, it looks to me like you're trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. First of all, Dallas is not going to be moving all the way up from #22 (which is about where they stand now without winning a single playoff game) to #3 by only giving up one player (Barber). Look at what the Giants had to give up a few years ago to land Eli and they didn't have near as far to go, then throw in a bit of inflation and you haven't even scratched the surface of what Dallas would have to give up to move up to #3, much less turn around and move up again to #1. That sort of mobility would require two whole drafts, and Dallas isn't going to give up 6-12 picks over the next two years to get one player when they already love Barber. What kind of sense does that make.To move up to #3 from where they are would probably require both of their first round picks, Barber and probably at least 1 first day pick in 09's draft if not more from the 09 draft.The only way Dallas can move up to get DMac is if someone like the Jets or Rams (the #2 selecting team) allows a straight switch of 2 picks for 1 in order to beat another team to the punch (Dallas' two first round picks). So, the only real way it'll happen that Dallas moves up into the area to get McFadden is if one of the top 4 teams doesn't want to pay a top 4 salary and are afraid another of the top teams is actually going to pull a switch with Dallas. That team, rightfully so, will also have to be under the impression that the talent distribution all through the first round is fairly evenly distributed.celtikLike I said, it's just a possible scenario that looks alright on paper, and the plan also counts on one team molesting two others as far as the point system goes. But I am saying that you should not underestimate Dallas's desire to get the most explosive player in the draft, nor their ability and what they would be willing to sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 1989fan, trading the #1 pick for Anderson would be a brilliant move for Miami, and obviously so for Cleveland as well. There's no QB coming from college who justifies that pick, but I think Anderson would be the best QB Miami has had since Marino. And if they could do it straight up, without having to throw in a 3rd rounder, they'd still have 3 or 4 more picks in the first few rounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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