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Demetrius Dew (12/12/2007)
Have Petrino and Saban set college coaches back that have aspiration of becoming NFL head coaches?

Or have college coaches finally realize that the grass is not greener on the opposite side the NFL that is?

No and No...and the reason for both is the same...

There's always going to be that one owner that will want the biggest, baddest, hottest, freshest name in coaching, and even if that name is a college coach, he'll be willing to pay more than the guy's worth, just so he can get him to the NFL...which means whoever that coach is, he'll jump to the NFL, because the money will simply be too big to pass up...:hehe:

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Demetrius Dew (12/12/2007)
Have Petrino and Saban set college coaches back that have aspiration of becoming NFL head coaches?

Or have college coaches finally realize that the grass is not greener on the opposite side the NFL that is?

First, no. There has always been a stigma against hiring college coaches. The NFL and NCAA are different animals with different variables.

Second, I think that's correct to a degree. The grass isn't always greener in the NFL. As a coach, you're dealing with different personalities across the board. Whatever a coach was used to doing in college doesn't cut it in the pros. There is no recruiting, there is FA and the draft. You're players aren't kids, they are grown men with bills and families. In college, you can almost get away with halfway respectable work hours and compete. In the NFL, a coach might as well move into the practice facility during the season, and be hard at work before the sun comes up till well after the sun sets during the offseason; and that's if the coach wants to go .500.

Bottom line, an NFL team should never hire a college coach, unless it is 100% sure that the coach knows, understands, and is prepared for the differences between the two.

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Demetrius Dew (12/12/2007)
Have Petrino and Saban set college coaches back that have aspiration of becoming NFL head coaches?

Or have college coaches finally realize that the grass is not greener on the opposite side the NFL that is?

First, no. There has always been a stigma against hiring college coaches. The NFL and NCAA are different animals with different variables.

Second, I think that's correct to a degree. The grass isn't always greener in the NFL. As a coach, you're dealing with different personalities across the board. Whatever a coach was used to doing in college doesn't cut it in the pros. There is no recruiting, there is FA and the draft. You're players aren't kids, they are grown men with bills and families. In college, you can almost get away with halfway respectable work hours and compete. In the NFL, a coach might as well move into the practice facility during the season, and be hard at work before the sun comes up till well after the sun sets during the offseason; and that's if the coach wants to go .500.

Bottom line, an NFL team should never hire a college coach, unless it is 100% sure that the coach knows, understands, and is prepared for the differences between the two.

Hopefully this will make the Arkansas/LSU rivalry a little more interesting. ;)

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Dirty Bird Razorback (12/13/2007)
Hopefully this will make the Arkansas/LSU rivalry a little more interesting. ;)

Unless he maintains the program and moves it forward, it won't. Ark/LSU is the single most forced rivalry in football. If the game this season between the Tigers and Hogs didn't set it off, and it doesn't look like it did, it just isn't going to happen.

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Demetrius Dew (12/13/2007)
Unless he maintains the program and moves it forward, it won't. Ark/LSU is the single most forced rivalry in football. If the game this season between the Tigers and Hogs didn't set it off, and it doesn't look like it did, it just isn't going to happen.

So LSU/Arkansas is not a real traditional rivalry?

It's not that it's not a rivalry, it is, it's just not one that really got off the ground. The good ole fashioned hatred that makes a rivalry heat up just never caught on.

/long story short, Tulane used to be a member of the SEC way back in the day. Tulane, being a New Orleans school, was a perfect rival for LSU. Tulane eventually left but LSU and Tulane still got together more often than not. A few years back, after some reshuffling, the SEC introduced the Golden Boot trophy in an attempt to spark up an inter divisional rivalry between LSU and Ark, and while the trophy is impressive and both teams do care about winning it, it's never gotten to the point of the little brown jug, for example.

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Sniper Wolf (12/13/2007)
Dirty Bird Razorback (12/13/2007)
Hopefully this will make the Arkansas/LSU rivalry a little more interesting. ;)

Unless he maintains the program and moves it forward, it won't. Ark/LSU is the single most forced rivalry in football. If the game this season between the Tigers and Hogs didn't set it off, and it doesn't look like it did, it just isn't going to happen.

Maybe more so for the Hogs, lol. LSU tends to put us into the ground, except this year.

I personally think we have more beef with Bama and Auburn.

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Sniper Wolf (12/14/2007)
Dirty Bird Razorback (12/14/2007)

I personally think we have more beef with Bama and Auburn.

Yep, both LSU and Ark would rather beat up on Bama or Auburn than the rest of the West.

'cept, LSU does enjoy whipping up on Ole Pizz, I can't lie.

I tell you what man, the Arkansas Ole ##### game will be totally different now. I can't wait til' we whoop on Houston Nutt, traitor.

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Demetrius Dew (12/14/2007)
I tell you what man, the Arkansas Ole ##### game will be totally different now. I can't wait til' we whoop on Houston Nutt, traitor.

Wasn't he forced to resigned by Arkansas?

If Lloyd Carr had left after this season and took a job the day after his resignation with Michigan State or Iowa, you'd be chomping at the bit to get a pound of flesh too.

It's not that he took another job, it's he stayed in the division.

/same as LSU/$aban. If he went to, say, Miami (the 'canes that is,) instead of 'Bama, LSU fans wouldn't have blinked twice. There might even have been a few that truly wished him luck.

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